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    Nvidia Fermi cards now available at NCIX

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Megacharge, Apr 18, 2010.

  1. Megacharge

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    As the title says the new cards appear to be available now here at NCIX.

    Hopefully the mobile variants aren't too far away.
     
  2. freedom16

    freedom16 Notebook Deity

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    Lol it's backordered already, well i hope i can win the graphic cards from Newegg and then sell em lol.
     
  3. csinth

    csinth Snitch?

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    I'd rather just get an ATI 5870.. save money and heat.
     
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    Lanaya Templar Assassin

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    but you lose the ability to use your PC as a space heater!
     
  5. spaghetticheese

    spaghetticheese Notebook Smasher

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    i'd rather buy a car for that money, or a 2 week holiday to somewhere. or something else just as expensive to point out that it is sooooo much money :)
     
  6. ziddy123

    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    BTW the GTX480 idle temps are higher than my HD5870 temps on load... ridiculous. And that thing has a heatsink with 4 gigantic heat pipes sticking out making the cards look insanely ridiculous. Also the fans on the G73 are 35db on load, the GTX480 on load is 75db...

    They can't die shrink the GF100, as some people have speculated, which I think is completely stupid. The GF100 is already 40nm and Nvidia has no other option but their current semiconductor manufacturer, who failed at 32nm and currently failing at 28nm. So consider the temperature, fan noise etc. Imagine how loud 75db fan would be if it was in a Notebook and fan is only TWO feet away from your FACE. When I listen to music, that's 75db... Notebook fans aren't 10 feet away from user like the dumbest fan noise test ever conducted by the morons at Guru3D.

    Nvidia has 128 core versions of the GTX480 which has around 480 core I believe. GTX480 solution to DX11 and tessellation is to shove it through their shader cores. With only 128 dealing with all the things shader cores already do, you think you would even bother trying to run tessellation? Remember GTX480 only has about 10% better performance at best for tessellation than HD5870.
    - The HD5870 mobile is exactly the same as HD5770 desktop with a dedicated tessellation core. This is why HD5870M can play ALL the current DX11 games.

    If I was Nvidia, I would not release GF100 for mobile, the alternatives to making it happen are just too lame. Just rebadge the G200, which are slightly smaller and those can be die shrinked.

    Consider this:

    The GTX480 has 480 cores. The GTX470 has 448 cores. Because Nvidia's awesome idea of forcing Tessellation through their CUDA cores or reality, just shader cores... DX11 features take a MASSIVE hit on performance when you reduce cores. These shader cores have to do tessellation and shader core functions.

    At 2560*1600the average for GTX480 in BC2 with DX11 features on is 38.8. GTX470 at 1920*1200 with DX11 features on is 32.4. Look at that, with massive reduction on resolution, with just 32 cores less, the GTX470 is CRIPPLED.

    2560*1600 GTX480 in Dirt 2 average is 43.3. Now with GTX470 with same settings, it's 39.1. Now yes it's only about 4 FPS less but it's only 32 cores less.

    Imagine the performance with only 128 cores. That's 352 cores less.... 4-8 FPS less for 32 cores less, what's the performance hit for 352? Yes, this makes this card a no no for DX11, just DX10.

    Oh BTW did I mention the GTX480 uses 356 bit GDDR5? Yeah for notebooks you are looking at 128 Bit GDDR5. Take that performance hit by another please.
     
  7. Megacharge

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    I would take a 5970 over a 480 card any day.
     
  8. ronnieb

    ronnieb Representing the Canucks

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    Agreed. ATI really got itself back in the game.
     
  9. Rulineitor

    Rulineitor Notebook Enthusiast

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    Isn´t it the other way around? Nvidia took itself out XD.
     
  10. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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