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    Nvidia GeForce Driver 451.48 WHQL

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by specialist7, Jun 24, 2020.

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    Nvidia GeForce Driver 451.48 WHQL

    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/directx-12-ultimate-game-ready-driver/


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    Release Notes: https://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/451.48/451.48-win10-win8-win7-release-notes.pdf

    Desktop:
    Windows 10 Standard Driver - Click Here
    Windows 10 DCH Driver - Click Here
    Windows 7/8.1 Driver - Click Here

    Notebook:
    Windows 10 Standard Driver - Click Here
    Windows 10 DCH Driver - Click Here
    Windows 7/8.1 Driver - Click Here

    Display Driver Uninstaller: (clean out old drivers)
    https://www.wagnardsoft.com/

    Don't want bloat on your drivers?
    NVSlimmer or NVCleanstall

    Any Issues? Post here:
    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforc...e-45148-game-ready-driver-feedback-thread-re/

    As always... Have fun! :eek::D:p
     
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    So this one brings DX12U?

    Time to guinea pig this experiment.

    Godspeed fellow rodents. *salute*
     
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    Try these no bloatware repo https://github.com/CHEF-KOCH/nVidia-modded-Inf
     
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    I'm rocking 20H2 on the Slow Ring... time to see what the GPU scheduling does.. or doesn't.. do ...
     
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    @Mr. Fox @Papusan @jc_denton @etern4l

    For the Windows 10 Forum

    So much for the GPU scheduling fluff from Windows 10 Build 2004 :rolleyes:
     
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    I'm still on 445.xx with LTSC, lol.
     
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    They probably have a lot of kinks to work out it's basically first launch for both the drivers and DX12U
     
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    I expect nothing but failure from Micro$loth. That seems to be the only thing they are good at. Literally, I never, ever, expect anything they do to turn out right. I haven't expected them to do anything right since Windows 8.X was spewed from their posterior orifice.

    When I expect nothing, it makes it hard to be disappointed. In fact, it makes it easy to be grateful if they can manage to let a whole month go by without screwing up something else.
     
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    For my system with Windows 10 1909, 445.98 is the best driver.

    With 445.98, I can play COD MW 2019 at high settings and RTX On at 1080p with solid and smooth 60fps (vsync on). With 451.48, I observed up to 15fps drop at certain scene (cars explosion in Piccadilly mission).
     
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    Just look at all Win 10 issues in op post. Awful.
     
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    For anyone running into unexpected problems with DOOM Eternal or other titles using the same engine, I just shared what worked to fix the weirdness on my laptop and desktop. Both working 100% again. https://steamcommunity.com/app/782330/discussions/0/2570942028829609937/?ctp=2#c2570942216292569102
    @custom90gt
     
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    Microsoft Blogs about Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling
    By Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 07/01/2020 09:28 AM
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    On its blog, Microsoft talks about Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling, for which support as added towards the latest AMD and NVIDIA drivers and into the Windows 10 May 2020 update.


    What to expect when switching to the new GPU scheduler
    The transition should be transparent, and users should not notice any significant changes. Although the new scheduler reduces the overhead of GPU scheduling, most applications have been designed to hide scheduling costs through buffering. The goal of the first phase of hardware accelerated GPU scheduling is to modernize a fundamental pillar of the graphics subsystem and to set the stage for things to come… but that’s going to be a story for a another time.

    Read more
     
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    Very rational, people just need to calm down and realize software and hardware engineering is difficult. Windows has to be the most difficult with the array of configurations people have out there.
     
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    angry post deleted
     
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    Better yet, man up, do it your own way and say to hell with what Micro$lop wants. I've never let them make decisions for me and have absolutely no intention of starting now. I'm not going let the tail wag the dog... just cut off the tail and be done with it.

    Superior Options Available:
    • Continue using Windows 7 (a personal favorite) until drivers are nowhere to be found
    • Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC (also a fantastic option - dirt cheap keys plentiful on eBay)
    • Windows 10 Pro modded to end-user specifications (digital feces removed, only Windows remains)
    • Switch to Linux (something we should all be prepared for and open to if/when the Redmond Mafia starts taking higher doses of their Nazi control-freak steroids)
     
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    If Win 10 2004 May upgrade come as an LTSC version after a couple of years it will be more reliable. As it’s now the Win 10 2004 update is a buggy fiasco paired with Nvidia’s problems due too Microsoft’s too early release. This OS version should be delayed and not released at current time. It was Idiocy release it at end of May. Microsoft should fixed up previous mess first because much of 2004 is built on top of old versions. All know how bad 1903/1909 is.
     
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    don't get me wrong I hate windows 10 also but for the money there is nothing else worth while...I'm not switching to linux just yet but if they release another gawd awful update I am..
     
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    Remember each new release from Microsoft is a disaster. And with each new release it destroy previous Win 10 versions. Before new release you should put updates on hold.
     
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    I just hope windows 11 ends up being great like windows 7, there is a chance they will bring back a windows 7 esque experience
     
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    I don't think 1909 is that good on Optimus AW jokebooks. Mine refused to boot after clean install but works fine on dirty-upgrade or in-place upgrade. Any LTSC version? 1809 will be EOL.
     
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    2019 LTSC (1809) maybe EOL in 2029 if I remember correctly. Won’t touch a LTSC version based on 1909 if that happen. And I don’t think we will see that version as LTSC. Microsoft is stupid but not on this level.
     
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    If you guys have all the answers you should start up your own OS company and show them how it's done.
     
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    I’m gonna start my own OS company with blackjack and hookers.
     
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    Didn't Gentoo already do that? :p
     
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    At least not the Microsoft’s way... http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...nd-announcements.826887/page-57#post-11029331

    https://www.theverge.com/platform/a...edge-browser-forced-update-chromium-editorial
    “And I’m not surprised that some angry Windows users are already railing against the fact that this came as part of a forced Windows update, which Microsoft has already had a damn hard time justifying without invading people’s desktops as well”

    “And if there’s a sizable fraction of users who feel the same, somebody inside Microsoft is facepalming hard right about now.”

    You like ransomware as main purpose from Microsofts OS?

    On top of this... Nvidia follows almost the same pattern.
     
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    It wouldn't do any good. They wouldn't pay attention. We have already seen an abundance of evidence that shows they never pay attention, or just flat-out don't give a damn. It's obvious from the endless flow of rubbish emanating from their posterior orifice that they are incapable of identifying the difference between filth and excellence. It seems their brain trust wasn't selected from the common sense gene pool.
     
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    i don't know I kinda like windows ten for basic use and gaming, that is with almost everything disabled.. I use eso and shutup 10...seems to do wonders...
     
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    Yes, using third-party utilities is an absolute must to keep Windows 10 in its place. It is bloated and unruly when left to function as the idiots that designed it intend for it to be used.

    To me, the best OS is one that is "seen but not heard" - like Windows 7 or Linux. It should not present itself as a primary point of focus. It's just there to run other software, stay out of the way, and not look ugly or degrade system performance in the process. Unfortunately, Windows 10 degrades performance and looks ugly, and it's in your face way too much. The last part can be managed fairly well using third-party utilities, but you also have to use third-party utilities to fix the ugliness part. The performance degradation isn't totally fixable, but there is room for improvement using third-party utilities. Notice how many times I mention "third-party utilities" in this paragraph? That's also major part of the problem. Using a plethora of third-party utilities is only necessary because it such a messed up product by default.

    The only respectable version to me is LTSC. It is closer to Windows 7 than anything else, but it does degrade CPU and memory performance simply because it is Windows 10 at the core. And, you need third-party utilities for all of the same reasons. There's simply a smaller mess to clean up and it's easier to keep your system locked down in a static state using LTSC.

    I'm pretty sure Windows 10 is never going to qualify as a good product because it's not made by good people.
     
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    yeah I will not use windows 10 stock ever, way to much social programming spying....they want to know when you hiccup
     
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    As usual Steve does a good job doing and intro and dive with expectation setting into something, this time HAGS:
     
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    Good video. I watched it last night (actually about 2:30 AM today, LOL) before going to bed.

    I do not think many of us expect good things from Micro$lop, but the way new "features" are frequently (mis)represented--often by the media more than the Digi-Nazis--it sometimes sets the stage for disappointment and frustration. GPU Scheduling is one of those things that would have been best mentioned in an obscure white paper and something difficult to find detailed technical information through extensive Google searching because at this particular point in time it is 99.9% irrelevant and meaningless.
     
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    Nice hype to push people over on Win 10 2004 May Update :) Microsoft is damn good at this. Maybe @Mr. Fox remember Dx12, then the hyped Ultimate Power plan in Win 10 Pro workstation For a few more $$$$. And I’m sure Spartan loved pay that extra for that “nice” must have feature in Pro Workstation :D
     
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    Yes Microsoft screwed me with a $199 USD bill as I was so excited to see that extra performance from the so called memory optimization with the Persistent Memory feature only to discover later that it's for NVDIMM-N. After that, whenever I look at the mirror, this is what I see:

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    PS: this is my cat Chico, they look similar:

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    @Falkentyne
     
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    Even today, neatly 6 years later if you count the time with Insider guinea pigs, DX12 is not very important and DX11 often produces a better gaming experience. DX12 was the only reason some people switched to W10, and yet here we are now and DX12 is still nothing to write home about and W10 is no less screwed up than it was on launch day this month in 2015.
     
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    We should see a different picture when devs leave DX11 and below behind so they don't have to architect for multiple APIs.
     
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    I suspect so. It's inevitable at some point. But, I wonder how many more years that will be. I also wonder if they haven't already done only because DX12 is not a particularly stable API and DX11 and older are very stable. I can't imagine game devs will want to release buggy games on purpose, and that's probably all we're going to be left with.
     
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    What makes you say it isn't stable?
     
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    The number of games that run better, or don't have bugs, after turning off DX12.
     
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    ? dude I have never had issues with dx 12 heck rdr 2 runs better with it than vulkan...maybe when it first came out but thats to be expected with new tech/software
     
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    Yeah, DX12 is great. :rolleyes:

    DXMD_2020_07_08_18_20_50_063.png DXMD_2020_07_08_18_31_01_708.png
     
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    Whether or not D3D12, and by extension, Vulkan and Metal are great or otherwise, is a very implementation-dependent thing. What these new graphics APIs do, is decouple the lock-step synchronisation of the CPU and GPU, allow lower-level memory access by shader and engine writers, and all in all, give developers greater control over the graphics pipeline. See Microsoft's documentation on Direct3D12.

    This does not mean that programs and games developed/ported from D3D11/OpenGL 4.5 to D3D12/Vulkan will automatically perform better on the latter APIs, because now the developers have to put in the legwork to synchronise the CPU and GPU (if necessary), have to judiciously control memory use. The recurring theme: developers have to do more work to achieve the performance, but theoretically speaking, this can result in even more improved performance over the older APIs, because now developers can have implementation-specific memory management and pipelines that suit the application at hand. If a developer screws this up (and this is very possible, as memory management is a very finicky, moving-target sort of problem), it could very well lead to drastically worsened performance, as potentially is the case in your example.

    One example that is currently changing to Vulkan, and where drastically improved performance can be seen, is X-Plane 11: microstutters are gone (as textures are no longer swapped in and out of VRAM), and frametimes are shorter and less distributed as the CPU can feed the GPU quicker and more reliably, and crashes are more recoverable. Another such example is Doom.

    It's like using a smartphone camera versus a DSLR. Use the latter in auto mode, and chances are the photo will look worse than that out of the phone, even despite the clear technical and optical superiority of the DSLR. In the hands of a pro photographer, however, the DSLR will outdo the smartphone any time of day.
     
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    Vulkan is great. DX12, not so much. At least that’s been my experience. But then again, OpenGL was poor, especially with AMD drivers, and Nvidia’s DX11 driver was very good, often beating DX12 implementations.
     
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    It looks like Horizon: Zero Dawn requires DX12. Be an interesting test to see what happens when devs don't have to worry about divergent paths to support multiple APIs. Hedging that it's a PS4 port, I'm assuming if it's DX12 only they wrote that support from the ground up.

    EDIT: Add Death Stranding to that list as well..
     
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    distracted