Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER and RTX 2080 SUPER

Incoming Super Recycled Technology Platform(RTX) GPU for laptops
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidi...s-in-leaked-SUPER-LAPTOPS-slide.455331.0.html

The GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER in the comparison slide offers an enticing overall performance: Just shy of 5x with DLSS off and approaching 7x with DLSS on.

 

I wonder why GTX1080 is not on that chart...

 

Because maybe to not make it look a 4 year old gen card superior to RTX 2060 & equal to a Rtx 2070 or worst almost equal to recycled technology super 2070

 

That chart is their current lineup.

 

Did anybody see the ridiculous device that Nvidia has chosen to advertise the RTX cards in laptops?

I would rather call it Throttletop:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/Notebooks/News/_nc3/rtx_laptop.png

 

That is their ultimate aim I'm sure, if we could have all the performance in that form factor without it burning the house down it would be nice.

 

"Super" Bugbook - goes 2 whole minutes before throttling itself into the nether realm

Let me know when they figure out a way to bypass the laws of thermodynamics.

 

Or they do it a bit smarter and gimp the CPU from the start so people do not notice the performance they are missing.

Under these circumstances among the blind the one eyed man is king, just look at the Cinebench comparison of the i9-9980 machines:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-...eview-Making-Core-i9-Worthwhile.454427.0.html

Looks like it will be some time until we get something (added performance) for nothing (same form factor and cooling)

 

New manufacturing processes or chip architectures are the only way to do that.

 

To be fair the RTX stuff is almost 2 years old now.. but 1080 is probably still a great 1080p/1440p choice IMO.

EDIT: ok correction 1.5 years

 

Since the Super is coming, we are one step closer to getting 2080 and 2070 max-q supers. Possibly even a 2080 TI Max-q super.

 

I removed a number of off-topic posts. Whatever you post needs to be informative to readers.

That [allegedly] leaked Nvidia slide is oddly missing the RTX 2080, unless my eyes fail me, and it looks like Nvidia is bridging the current large gap between the GTX 1650 and the GTX 1660 Ti with the GTX 1650 Ti. That might also be AMD's RX 5500M at work, which thrashes the GTX 1650 pretty good.

I wonder if the Super cards will also be offered in "Max-Q" variants. I don't see the sense in doing that, but I wouldn't put anything past the marketers after Max-Q.

Charles

 

I think it's more that the 2080 Super isn't as much of a jump, so Nvidia glossed over it..

Also, what happened to the 2060 Super? https://www.notebookcheck.net/Exclu...phics-cards-for-laptops-in-2020.443226.0.html

 

I laughed when I read this threads title, super oh cmon. 2080 max q greed versions should be out shortly. nvidia never ceases to amaze me I cannot believe how greedy these billionaires are getting.

 

I really am wondering what the point is though. I mean they cant be that depraved to be after solely the latest ferrari, or whatever goes on in their heads. On a practical standpoint, I assume its just a gimmick to sell off old stock because rtx isnt selling as well as they liked. As it stands, they are having a tough time selling the rebranded 1660's

 

Kinda expected tbh.

The new RTX 3000 GPUs (Ampere) are expected to be released for desktops sometime this year and the laptop version most likely next year as it looks. Too bad it wont be in 7nm like AMD which is surprising but still its interesting to see AMD breathing down Nvidia's neck

 

Ampere is 7nm, where have you been friend?

 

I got the info from here

https://www.notebookcheck.net/No-7-nm-for-Nvidia-s-upcoming-Ampere-gaming-GPUs.457329.0.html

Since the article is about a 1 month old its probably old information

 

Some of the early super reviews in laptops don’t look amazing to me. I don’t even think most full TDP 2080 super cards will beat the full 2080 in my Helios 700. I’m hitting 30K GPU scores in firestrike and 11.5k GPU scores in timespy. These super cards don’t even come close according to all the new benchmarks.

 

Hey mate are you satisfied with helios 700?
Temps - oc - performance ?
I found one like your's{renewed}
in amazon for a good price

 

What is the TDP of your 2080, and what are the TDPs of the 2080 Supers that are being tested?

I also doubt your 30K in FS is on a bone stock, completely untweaked system. Not really a fair comparison.

But even on desktops the Super is only 8% faster than the original in 4K testing, even less at 1080p. These cards were never going to set the laptop scene on fire.

 

the performance is the best I have seen. Beats out the area 51m I used to have as well. Temps are also the lowest with the keyboard slid open and custom fan at only 35 percent. GPU maxes at 71C and CPU stays around 69 to 74C in heavy games. No throttling on the CPU in this machine. The only downside is the screen, it only has the AUO319D which is fine but nothing special

 

with the keyboard open I see the GPU hit 190w. And yes I’m running around 2025 to 2070 on the core and 8400mhz on the vram. I think I hit the lottery with this chip.

 

Wow man this a beast of performance.
I can’t find the one with the i9 though

 

Yeah the i9 is hard to find

 

I think if I was buying a GPU again right now looking back at how I perceive my 2070 in the year I've had it I'd probably pick the 2080 Super. Seems to be a good balance between getting the 2nd fastest GPU and price-performance for GPU bound 1600p gaming which is what I'd need.

I think the 2070 super would probably find itself in a tough position for RT workloads at 1600p in the next year or two. That little bit of room jumping to the 2080 super would probably buy another 12 months or so.

I don't regret the 2070 at all, it still works great and I have no performance complaints at all, I'm just thinking by the time late 2021 rolls around it's not going to have enough room to make it another year to late 2022.

For someone focusing on 1080p the 2070 Super is definitely enough, 1440p... that's a little more questionable. Since I'm at 1600p it's a clear answer.

I suppose it also depends on what your goals are, I like to crank up options and effects since I tend to play nothing but single player immersive games and rpgs that don't rely on competitive twitch skills and super low latency.

 

My 200w 2080 is not enough in games already at 1080p 144hz, lol. But for me, anything below ~120 fps at near max settings means I need something more powerful. The 2080 super won’t be an upgrade at all for me since my 2080 is already going beyond what most 2080s can do and surpassing stock 2080 super benchmarks. With the refresh releasing now, all this means is that I need to wait till at least 2021 before I can get a 3080 series GPU in a notebook. Bummer.

 

and you need ultra settings why? you do know ultra vs high is not even visible in 99 percent of all games!!

heck games like farcry 5 look similar on low vs ultra

 

Perhaps if you were to either vbios mod or power mod the 2080S, it might not be a completely vapid upgrade. Of course, assuming that you can keep the unlocked card cool and under 50-60c.

 

I need near ultra settings because that’s why I game on PC, to have the best visual quality possible with the highest framerate. Otherwise I would buy a cheap console and enjoy medium settings at 30 to 60fps.

 

1070 here and still doing fine. Most games if I recall correctly do not even effectively use RTX tech, making little difference. Of course I play mainly older games like warframe or eso which only benefit from gddr6 more then anything, and thats assuming I will do 3 or 4k, which I wont .

I might upgrade for TES VI, assuming they are actually using ray tracing. GodFall looks interesting, but im more an MMO person, and as we know ray tracing and mmo's havent meet yet, though I think I recall seeing one chinese mmo actually using ray tracing. It was rather unconvincing.

Optimization and coding are factors that havent been addressed much if that says something.

 

If the MXM cards were reasonably priced as their desktop counterparts, the appeal of 2080S would be higher.

 

it would be if coming from a GTX1060 up to RTX2070, but just like the desktop versions, the 2080 super is only about 4 percent faster than the 2080, which sucks. If you have a 2080 that overclocks very well, and get a 2080 super that doesn’t OC well, the original 2080 could even outperform it. The same can’t be said for 2070 to 2070 super, there is a much bigger difference there

 

2080 mxm is clock locked to 2100Mhz, which in itself is an outcry.

 

can any 2080s out there even hit 2100mhz on the core stable? I’ve been able to get
Mine up to 2070 benchmark stable and 2010 game stable. Are we talking with voltage mods ?

 

Many 2080 MXM cards can, as for 2080S mxm, we need to get them in hand to test.
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/10894529
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/7118655
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/7113782

But you're constantly fighting nvidias boost ie. power limit, thermal limit, clock limit etc. Vbios/hardware mods can help push the card towards the 2100Mhz limit with higher TDP. However, remember that the card already begins to gradually drop clocks when above 38c.

 

What we call progress. Rehash is bad, but let it get worse specifications is quite interesting

Refreshed GeForce RTX 2070 for laptops with worse specifications purepc.pl

We checked the old and refreshed version of the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 graphics card. The new version with a different identifier has slower GDDR6 memory and much lower bandwidth.

"Give with one hand but grab it back with the other is equal one step forward and two steps backwards"

 

Wow, could it just be that particular laptop? That’s a huge bandwidth cut

 

As long as asshat gamer kids believe newer is always better there will be a market for the NVIDIA milking machine to exploit with their digital sorcery, smoke and mirrors.

In addition to that nonsense, the thin and light laptop play-me-on-battery-power freak show demands performance downgrades. Less is not more. Less is less. 2 - 1 = 1. Closer to zero by one. This is the life for bottom-feeders.

 

What a sad reality this is, hopefully next gen MXM will be moddable to work with the P870. Otherwise it's a sad ending to a once great tale.

 

In case anyone is interested in the performance of the 2080 Super Max-Q, here is my firestrike result:

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/22403498

I'm not really sure if there's any performance jump over the original 2080 max-q, nor do I really care, but I assume some folks in this thread may be interested.

 

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/22403498/fs/21653660#

Or put it the other way. At least faster than RTX 2070 Max-Q from last year
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/21374334

 

Yeah, those are amazing scores. But they're also the top 1% of benches and using custom BIOS with unlocked TDP. I'm just showing results at stock out of the box, so that comparison is a little disingenuous

 

Better? From Notebookcheck. RTX 2080 Max-Q - Razerbook 17 from last year. Sad seeing last year perform better than what you get today. This is what we call progress.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/So-mu...azer-Blade-Pro-17-Laptop-Review.424150.0.html

 

I'd be curious to see how far you can push that card. Oh, and you don't go into a race expecting to win by following the speedlimit.

 

Attached is my score out of the box with my Helios 700 set to turbo clocks. Let’s see if the full performance 2080 super can beat my graphics score lol @Papusan

 

this might come across as trolling and maybe it is at it's roots, but I just bought a gtx 1050 laptop and play on either ultra for older games or medium/high on new games...games that need a gtx 1070 and higher are usually just maxing games for the sake of maxing and adding nothing or next to in terms of visuals....my point is NO you don't need a 2080 super and why would you waste money on gaming past 60fps.....ive seen 300hz in person and yes their is a difference but its so minute that the argument for spending 4000 on a gaming laptop for this reason is moot and basically ends up being a social iq test for the handicapped or mentally disabled....not dissing anyone just in general my opinion is upgrading gpus every time something new comes out is utterly DUMB UNINTELLIGENT And UNWISE.


donate your Money to the poor and unfortunate

 

You're certainly not GPU limited

 

there is an insane difference between 60hz and 144+, especially in FPS. Sometimes I wonder if people are just not sensitive to motion. It’s literally night and day.

 

yeah you might be right i just dont see the difference....could be person to person