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    Nvidia Geforce 197.45 notebook drivers released (MS Update Catalog)

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by coolguy, Apr 22, 2010.

  1. wishmaster.dj

    wishmaster.dj Notebook Evangelist

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    thanks justin!

    GT 320M is notorious for its lack of official support from nvidia. Hence i am a little eager to gain info about its performance and support.
     
  2. MidtownHD

    MidtownHD Notebook Consultant

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    197.45 are "desktop" drivers...
     
  3. LaptopNut

    LaptopNut Notebook Virtuoso

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    Just a few of the entries found inside of the NV_WHQL.inf included in the MS download, many more mobile Cards are listed of course:

     
  4. coolguy

    coolguy Notebook Prophet

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    Check the GPU entries in the original post. These drivers are from MS update, not Nvidia.
     
  5. windstrings

    windstrings Notebook Deity

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    Yes, I tried to install the 197.45 on my DV8t and it said my system was not compatible with the drivers and install exited.

    I have the 230M graphics card... I suppose 197.16 64bit is the latest that work with mine?

    Still Can't believe HP doesn't carry the graphics drivers on thier page.
     
  6. Abula

    Abula Puro Chapin

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    Did you do what the first post suggests?
     
  7. windstrings

    windstrings Notebook Deity

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    Nope... it pays to read instructions.... I'll have to do that more often.... thanks!.....

    It worked!.... LOL!

    The first time I did a formal uninstall etc and attempted reinstall... after restoring everything back to the way it was "197.16", I just installed 197.45 right over the top and it installed fine.
     
  8. windstrings

    windstrings Notebook Deity

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    Well I installed 197.45 and only got a couple more points higher on 3DMark06 test but unless I'm imagining it.. the graphics look magnificant!... on every test I just marvelled at the definition, clarity and crispness, yet softness to make it real....

    Hard to explain but looks more like being there rather than looking at game graphics...... I recommend it.
     
  9. SimoxTav

    SimoxTav Notebook Evangelist

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    How do they perform against Dox 195.62?
     
  10. mew1838

    mew1838 Team Teal

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    These are the best drivers. Period.
     
  11. windstrings

    windstrings Notebook Deity

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    On a desktop its one thing as you can simply replace a graphics card if you toast it from high heat, but I'm reluctant to install drivers that notoriously run hot and seem to only have highest benchmarks in mind.

    I'm not a guru on graphics....but I've seen high numbers that "look" worse because the rendering is worse.

    There is always a slider setting.. one end you have highest performance, and all the other way you have the highest quality?

    Obtaining both is always the challenge because there is always give and take.... these 197.45 drivers give me a few points higher "which is better than worse" but the most impressive thing is they "look" better to me.

    Do we really care what a benchmark says unless it looks better too?

    Am I wrong?... high benchmarks are supposed to be a trailing indicator of what looks good... but thats not really the case.... as you know, if you turn off all the fancy rendering "that makes it look realistic" you can get really high numbers.

    Maybe I'm missing something?
     
  12. SimoxTav

    SimoxTav Notebook Evangelist

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    I've got the point, but to be honest i haven't noticed higher temps with Dox's drivers. About the performance I agree with you, to get higher performance you'll have to sacrifice something, but once again i can't see the difference on the games that I'm playing (Anno 1404, Settlers 7, Team Fortress 2 to make some examples). That's why I was asking for a comparison, cause my graphic card -8600M GT DDR3- it's old and even 1-2 fps can make the difference :p )
     
  13. windstrings

    windstrings Notebook Deity

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    Honestly, I wasn't trying to be smart... but the contrar... I really don't know.

    Do the benchmarks have a way to indicate "quality" or just raw numbers of now many frames per second etc?

    Is quality always going to be a subjective issue that cannot be benchmarked?

    So when your asking for a comparison.. I guess you mean benchmark numbers and frames per second?

    If so, what about quality?

    The reason I"m bringing this us is I just updated to 197.45 from 197.16.... many might say "why bother if the numbers are so close?

    But unless I'm imagining it, the quality really is better regardless of the numbers I"m seeing.
     
  14. SimoxTav

    SimoxTav Notebook Evangelist

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    I meant FPS on games not FPS in a benchmark (that actually IMHO doesn't mean nothing) but anyway yes, a parameter that can be globally objectifiable. About the quality, you are completely right but on a WXGA 15.4" sometimes i can't catch the difference between a "High texture detail" or a "Mid texture detail" on games settings (or any other enthusiast "quality setting") due the "low" resolution, so losing some "quality" to improve performance doesn't always mean that you'll see what you've lost :) (at least in my notebook situation :p), otherwise on my desktop with a 24" WUXGA losing even a single details is much more evident IMHO (but there i have a GTX260 216sp and that's another story ^^) and your thoughts fit perfectly in the contest :)
     
  15. lidowxx

    lidowxx Notebook Deity

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    I think I can answer this, although it might be a different story for your 8600M GT. In short, Dox's 195.62 is superior in terms of performance, at least for my 9800M GS, and 197.45 is about on the same performance level of 186.82.

    Here are a few benchmark numbers to give you a rough idea how they stack against each other. On 3dmark06, they are virtually the same, about 8750 for me, give or take. There is another benchmark I got, resident evil 5 benchmark tool. At 1920x1080/all settings high except shadow on low/AA off, I got 39.2 FPS for DOX's 195.62 and only 35.7 for 197.45 (36FPS for 186.82). A clear advantage of 3fps is quite substantial, especially when the average fps is under 40.

    I haven't noticed any increased temps with DOX's drivers either, the temp of my video card stays almost the same regardless what drivers I use unless the drivers can't make powermizer work properly. Don't know why many people have higher temp for their video cards with DOX drivers.
     
  16. myx

    myx Notebook Deity

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    I installed these drivers on my laptop (see specs in signature) and apparently they do not contain the DPC fix because my laptop keeps having 65k+ spikes when downclocking.

    Too bad as I am still stuck with 196.86 (P03, Dell released for DPC fix) - newer drivers P05 - 197.31 fail to install.
     
  17. Terminal42

    Terminal42 Notebook Evangelist

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    So where do I get that?

    because its not letting me delete the inf file at all! Just says extract!
     
  18. RaYYaN

    RaYYaN Back on NBR :D

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    Extract all the contents of the folder to wherever you lie, but they are not in a folder so I suggest you make one on your desktop, else it will extract all files to the desktop, and there are alot

    Once you have extracted the files, delete the inf file from the folder you extracted ALL files too.
    Then simply run setup.exe and you are good to go :D :D

    Hope this helps
     
  19. Terminal42

    Terminal42 Notebook Evangelist

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    Got it to work. Don't know exactly what to say so far...Tried mirrors edge in SLI. its a lot cooler but theres stll frequent drops in fps down to 1-15. Stays about 50-60 the entire time and in combat areas drops to 40.

    Fallout 3 STILL has issues. The past like 5 drivers has had issues with this game in SLI. Trying grid now.
     
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