Nvidia Geforce 9650M GT/GS

just wondering which memory have those cards got...
DDR2 or DDR3?
been surfing around and cant figure... any1?

 

I've seen a 9650M GT that is GDDR3. But most nvidia cards have variations between GDDR2/GDDR3 even though they have the same name so it could be very likely that there is a 9650M GT that is GDDR2 as well.

The 9650M GT is probably GDDR3 while the GS is GDDR2.

 

Keep in mind that the 9650M GS is a renamed 8700M GT - it uses GDDR3, but it's on an older process and core.
The 9650M GT should be GDDR3 as well.

 

There is 9650M GT DDR2 version.
In Rizeon (uk) laptops to be more specific and if I'm not mistaken in some Sager (us) laptops.
Zepto seems to be the only brand for now that sells 9650M GT GDDR3 version in it's laptops

 

Asus has a 9650M GT GDDR2 version in their 14.1" N80Vn notebook.

 

ye just looked at rizeon, they do seem to have 1024mb GT DDR2 version..

 

How does the 9650GT DDR2 compare to 9600GT DDR3?
You guys know?

 

The 9650m gt DDR2 will slightly outperform 9600m GT GDD3 becauce of higher clocks ...
Howerver, the 9600m GT GDDR3 will be better in terms of overclocking.

My suggestion is to go with 9650m GT (even if it's DDR2) as it's built on a smaller 55nm manufacturing process and as such produces less heat.

 

the ASUS M70 Series M70VN-X1 has the:
Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9650M GT
Video Memory 1024MB

how good is that?

 

It's not that good. The 1024MB VRAM is a gimmick. Consider getting a graphics card with a 256-bit memory bus, like the 9700M GT S or above. Do not get the 9700M GT because it is a 9650M GT with higher clocks.

 

is the 9650 better then a 8600GT ???

more to the point will you get better graphics fps ext

 

Definitely better.

 

is it good enuff to sell my m1530 (look at sig) for a laptop with one of them???

 

Depends on if you find that games aren't performing well in your laptop. Personally I wouldn't, as everything else is pretty good. I prefer having a desktop for gaming though as they're a lot cheaper to have and offer a much better gaming experience. Unfortunately, I'm living on an island and I didn't want to ship my desktop over, so if I ever want to play games I just have to put up with it. My 9500M GS is the same as your 8600M GT except it's a bit slower due to DDR2 memory as opposed to your GDDR3.

 

This has been gone over before. Let me rehash.

I understand notebookcheck does speculate on what a card may put out. They do this in cases where new hardware is announced but not available. Specifically they did it with the 4000 serious. (note all references have been removed) Regardless, I thought it was a nice gesture. It showed, based on tec specs, where they thought different models would place with others.

I have no problem with that. All you have to do is scroll to the bottom of their little stat page and see how many notebooks they tested with that card. If there aren't any, then you know its not legit. At least for the purposes of proving a point. Maybe sharing speculation... But not to back up any type of claim. But in most cases they have legitimate, actual benchmark results.

But when they report an average 3Dmark score based off about 15 (in the case of the 9600M GT) laptops benchmarked, all with (semi) detailed configs for the systems tested, it's a little hard to refute (click More Details next to the benchmark result). Unless you want to say they are just making sh!t up. In that case, I have nothing to say about that.

When you look at the details for the 9600M GT on 3DMark06 you see they guessed a score of 3800k, but in reality it clocks in much higher. The lowest legitimate test score shown there is 4390.

If their estimation's are consistently conservative in terms of projected performance, then it could gain to reason the 9650M GT could turn ~6800 on 3DMark06 with DDR3. However, looking at how the 9600M GT scales in terms of DDR3 v. DDR2, I would say a more reasonable guess would be ~6200.

But in the end, the 9650M GT is mo betta 3 out of 4 times.

Here is how I would brake it down

9600M GT DDR3 v. 9650M GT DDR3: 9650M GT = Better
9600M GT DDR3 v. 9650M GT DDR2: 9600M GT = Better
9600M GT DDR2 v. 9650M GT DDR3: 9650M GT = WAY Better
9600M GT DDR2 v. 9650M GT DDR2: 9650M GT = Better

People like to say a faster 3DMark score doesnt translate into more frames per second. To a certain extent that is true. If one card scores a 4500 and another scores 4550 you will not see an increase in FPS. But if the difference is in the 800's you will.

Overclocking my Radeon 3650 took my 3Dmark06 score from ~3600 to ~4400. That translated into ~10 more FPS in games. That is roughly, off the top of my head, a 25% increase.

The DDR2 9600M GT scores ~4300 in 3Dmark06. The DDR2 9650M GT scores a ~4800. Thats about 12%. I would say that would translate into about 5 to 10 FPS more in a game.

 

How did you derive the 9650M GT DDR2 > 9600M GT GDDR3? Considering the clock speeds aren't really much higher, I'd like to see proof of this.

 

9600M GT DDR3 v. 9650M GT DDR2: 9600M GT = Better

Read it again.

 

Verbatim, your question is in contradiction to what I said. If I understand what your saying, you asked why I said the 9650M GT DDR2 is greater then the 9600M GT DDR3. I didn’t say that and it isn’t by any margin.

If what you meant to say was, why would I say it IS NOT? then:
People underestimate the value of DDR3 v. DDR2. Even though the 9650M GT is higher clocked, it doesn’t put enough space between it and the 9600M GT. Remember, the 3DMark06 score of 9600M GT is about ~4400 where the score of the 9650M GT is ~4800. The documented 9600M GT with DDR3 scores about ~5800. Those are raw numbers, not my speculation. I only speculated at what the 9650M GT would score with DDR3. Those numbers aren’t available yet.

On a side note, I am extremely confident the 9600M GT can reach 9650M GT clock speeds.

 

The 9700M GT is pretty good, I've managed to Overclock to about 6200, once I get my cooling pad, I'll try and overclock to 9700M GTS levels.

 

I am seriously considering buying a 17 inch ASUS M70VN-X6 NoteBook to replace my Dell Vostro 1000 running XP. My Vostro is improved with 2GB ram and a 320GB hard drive running at 7,200 RPM. Still, it bogs down with memory intensive operations. The M70VN-X6 has dedicated NVIDIA GeForce 9650M GT 1GB DDR3 video. While the system ram runs at 1,067 MHz, does anyone know the speed that the video ram runs at?

Understand that this video card will vastly outperform what I currently have. I cannot even open graphic files after about 13,000 pixels square, much less edit and save them. I am fairly certain this graphics card will handle the largest Hubble JPeg images I use.

 

Probably 800 MHz - get GPU-Z.
Others: How would a GPU help processing graphic files? I would personally upgrade the RAM.

 

Don't count on it the GTS is a whole different kettle of fish with its 256 bit memory bus and added shader processors.