Nvidia Has Vulkan Drivers, no mobile support.

I've already put a thread on Nvidia forums to request.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/...est-for-vulkan-mobile-drivers-place-em-here-/




https://developer.nvidia.com/vulkan-driver

...you'll notice the mobile workstation gets support, so where the hell is the 900M, 800M, 700M and 600M support?

• Quadro Series: Quadro M6000, Quadro M5000, Quadro M4000, Quadro K6000, Quadro K5200, Quadro K5000, Quadro K4000, Quadro K4200, Quadro K2200, Quadro K2000, Quadro K2000D, Quadro K1200, Quadro K620, Quadro K420
• Quadro Series (Notebooks): Quadro K5100M, Quadro K5000M, Quadro K4100M, Quadro K4000M, Quadro K3100M, Quadro K2200M, Quadro K2100M, Quadro K3000M, Quadro K2000M, Quadro K1100M, Quadro K1000M, Quadro K620M, Quadro K610M, Quadro K510M, Quadro K500M
• GeForce 900 Series: GeForce GTX TITAN X, GeForce GTX 980 Ti, GeForce GTX 980, GeForce GTX 970, GeForce GTX 960, GeForce GTX 950
• GeForce 700 Series: GeForce GTX TITAN Z, GeForce GTX TITAN Black, GeForce GTX TITAN, GeForce GTX 780 Ti, GeForce GTX 780, GeForce GTX 770, GeForce GTX 760, GeForce GTX 760 Ti (OEM), GeForce GTX 750 Ti, GeForce GTX 750, GeForce GTX 745, GeForce GT 740, GeForce GT 730, GeForce GT 720, GeForce GT 710, GeForce GT 705
• GeForce 600 Series: GeForce GTX 690, GeForce GTX 680, GeForce GTX 670, GeForce GTX 660 Ti, GeForce GTX 660, GeForce GTX 650 Ti BOOST, GeForce GTX 650 Ti, GeForce GTX 650, GeForce GTX 645, GeForce GT 645, GeForce GT 640, GeForce GT 630

 

when i did try to install it did detect my cards and i have 880m's so i think it works on notebooks

 

Have high hopes for Vulkan... in time.

 

It will probably do better on AMD cards but let's wait and see, still early days with Vulcan and DX12...

 

would like to see this happen.

 

They may have just forget. its the same arch on mobile and desktop, I doubt there is huge efforts required.

 

I am using a vulcan drivers for my GTX 970m and is working flawlessly under windows 8.1. All i did was I modified the .inf driver and thats it. As far as benchmarking the gpu (for firestrike) it gives good results (7.5k).

 

No need to modify anything, it just worked ok with my GTX 970m, straight out-of-box (Windows 8.1).

BTW here is a full list of Vulkan conformant GPUs, straight from Khronos:

https://www.khronos.org/conformance/adopters/conformant-products#vulkan

These are GPUs which passed Vulkan conformance tests, so for all of these drivers must work. There is tons of them, many more than listed on that drivers page on Nvidia site.

I'll copy and paste here Nvidia mobile GPU ones from that list:

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 850M
NVIDIA GeForce 845M
NVIDIA GeForce 840M
NVIDIA GeForce 830M
NVIDIA Quadro K2200M

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 965M
NVIDIA Quadro M6000
NVIDIA Quadro M5000
NVIDIA Quadro M4000
NVIDIA Quadro M5000M
NVIDIA Quadro M4000M
NVIDIA Quadro M3000M

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 870M
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M
NVIDIA GeForce 825M
NVIDIA GeForce 820M
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 775M
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770M
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 765M
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760M
NVIDIA GeForce GT 755M
NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M
NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
NVIDIA GeForce GT 740M
NVIDIA GeForce GT 735M
NVIDIA GeForce GT 730M
NVIDIA GeForce GT 720M
NVIDIA GeForce 710M
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680MX
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675MX
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670MX
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M
NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M
NVIDIA GeForce GT 645M
NVIDIA GeForce GT 640M LE
NVIDIA GeForce GT 640M
NVIDIA Quadro K5100M
NVIDIA Quadro K5000M
NVIDIA Quadro K4100M
NVIDIA Quadro K4000M
NVIDIA Quadro K3100M
NVIDIA Quadro K3000M
NVIDIA Quadro K2100M
NVIDIA Quadro K2000M
NVIDIA Quadro K1100M
NVIDIA Quadro K1000M
NVIDIA Quadro K510M
NVIDIA Quadro K500M

 

i guess this is to replace my nVidia driver, or support it? Also, is there any improvement in performance with the 970M?

 

It's basically old version of Nvidia driver, but with Vulkan support. This is just for testing / developing with Vulkan.

The Vulkan-enabled driver version is 356.39, so if you don't need Vulkan, you'll lose all the progress that happened from then till "normal" driver (latest stable driver version 361.91).

Main driver branch will also get Vulkan support eventually, so if you are not graphics developer, you may just wait.

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As far as I'm aware, right now Vulkan performance isn't great, the first step was just to get out conformant drivers. Now that game developers got their hands on it, both they and Nvidia can start with more debugging and optimizations.

E.g. Talos Principle, the first game that released Vulkan rendering backend, gets today about 20-30% lower performance than their DirectX 11 rendering backend (which is already well optimized).

See their FAQ:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/257510/discussions/0/412447331651720139/

 

they'll have to package it with the directx driver set sooner or later.

 

Vulkan doesn't matter right now unless you're a dev. It'll be at least a year or two before vulkan matters for consumers. We don't even have DX12 games yet and that's actually supported.

Sent from a 128th Legion Stormtrooper 6P

 

ahh...not in western markets. there are some in Asia that are using DX12 like King of Wushu.

Gears of War Ultimate Edition is spec'd to use DX12 but it's release is still unknown. Quantum Break is out in April and is using DX12 and so that will be the first actual release in western markets. Games like Arma III will be updated to DX12 but they don't count as they were already released nor are they DX12 native.

so yeah looking to see how a DX12 game runs with laptop hardware

 

RLY?

 

needs more time to be better than DX11.

 

It's not even a contest between DX and Vulcan right now for consumers. Yes, really.

I'm not saying it won't be viable and competitive at some point. That point will not be any time soon.

Edit: I do think one place where vulkan could be helpful is Android and Linux. The 96% of desktop gamers using Windows will be better served by DX for the foreseeable future.

Sent from a 128th Legion Stormtrooper 6P

 

what's the market share of games that use DX vs OpenGL/Vulkan?

 

I think the idea is that Vulkan is supposed to fix the problem of DirectX 12 being available just on Windows 10.

This would make it bigger deal than just OpenGL 3-4 vs DirectX 9-11. Both developers and users want to use those hot new features without being tied to Windows 10.

Majority of the world still runs Windows 7. Outside of gaming niche, even Windows 8 and Windows XP are still much bigger than Windows 10.

See e.g. these recent Unity HW stats (these are more representative of normal people than Steam HW stats):

Top on 2016-02:

• Windows 7: 66.2%
• Windows XP: 17.3%
• Windows 8.1: 8.6%
• Windows 10: 4.0%
• OSX El Capitan: 1.3%
• OSX Yosemite: 0.9%
• Windows 8: 0.8%

http://hwstats.unity3d.com/pc/os.html

Also as Android future graphics will be eventually dominated by Vulkan (it'll have to, to be competitive vs iOS Metal), this should lower costs of keeping separate code paths for developers.

Most major engines have mobile versions, which mean Vulkan support will be everywhere too. This was kinda happening already with OpenGL ES3, but the difference now with Vulkan is just how much closer mobile graphics got to desktops.

See this fresh new mobile Vulkan demo (Unreal Engine 4 running on a smartphone - Samsung Galaxy S7):



Fun times ahead. I just hope Microsoft will not sabotage Vulkan. They kinda try to make DX12 + exclusive games the "carrot" that will help persuading people to switch to Windows 10 (Quantum Break is just beginning of that strategy).

 

They will try their best! If Vulcan becomes a thorn in DX12 side good luck to Vulcan!

I hope the API will catch up within a year

 

Vulkan has no chance... Unless Microsoft loses the console war and trashes DX12... Which I hate to say isn't going to happen. Microsoft messed up my Xbox One with Windows 10... The OS lags like nothing else... But games work better... By the time Khronos gets Vulkan ready for prime time, it will be relegated to Steam boxes.