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    Nvidia Mobile GPU Roadmap for 2009

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Blacky, Feb 22, 2009.

  1. Blacky

    Blacky Notebook Prophet

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    I really wanted to do this thread for a long time but I didn’t know if people would be interested.

    I think that based on the rumours we have and knowing the development of desktop GPUs we can get a pretty good idea of what to expect from the future of mobile GPUs especially when it comes to Nvidia.
    Also we should note that unlike ATI, Nvidia is very serious about rebranding so I will try to emphasize that.

    Nvidia likes to define the performance class of its video cards very well, just like ATI does. In the case of Nvidia it is like this:
    Let’s do it for the 9000M series based on price and performance (I would really like you to correct me if I am wrong).


    [​IMG]

    If course there are a myriad of other models in between the above but I took these as reference points.

    Here is how I see the roadmap (please bring more info so we can update it). I also used the number of shaders in brackets to show if it is the same core.

    [​IMG]

    Note that “nm” in the top of the table. This is the production technology, the lower this is, the higher the performance of the GPU while maintaining the same heat signature.

    And here you can see desktop GPUs made into mobile GPUs for the 9000 series:

    [​IMG]

    There are further discussions here:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=355606

    Sources:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compar...rocessing_Units#GeForce_9M_.289xxxM.29_series
    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html
    http://vr-zone.com/articles/nvidia-40nm-mobile-gpus-line-up-for-2009/6378.html?doc=6378
    http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=22018
     
  2. Harleyquin07

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    A roadmap based on rumours and speculation is fine and all, but right now ATi have a better lineup for notebooks which is far better than rebranded chips with faster clocks.

    Nvidia doesn't seem to be making anything new for laptops for at least a quarter so we'll all be looking at ATi offerings for medium to high performance gaming laptops.
     
  3. Blacky

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    As you can see I have tried to emphasize this. Also half of it is no speculation because it has already happened.

    And we shouldn't care who comes on top. As long as there is competition consumers have the benefits.
     
  4. dondadah88

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    it seems nvidia is finally stepping up with that 280m gtx. i wonder what the price, power comsumption, and heat this is going to have?
     
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    Fair enough, but the competition you speak of where both companies can go head to head with similar product is at least 3-6 months away. It matters little right now for the foreseeable present where ATi is currently the only solution for certain segments.
     
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    well there is some dedicated nvidia fans that will wait for them to come out. as for me(look in sig) i'm happy :)
     
  7. Blacky

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    Actually I think they still have similar products. 9800M GT <-> 4850 Mobility and 9800M GTX <-> 4870 Mobility.
    But the pricing?!??! Nvidia had monopoly for too long on the highend sector and that reflected in prices.

    When I saw this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220503 I felt like I have been riped off by Nvidia on my 9800M GTX.
     
  8. Tiz-12

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    LOL you wrote the 9300M made 2000 score on 3Dmark06, i got around about 1800(my CPU and RAM is great so i didn't get lower becuase of my system)...and the 9500M GS is an awesome card, grade 2 card as close as high end graphics as my laptop will get unfortunatly! 9500M GS is basicly the same as a 8600M GT but it's core is just 10% more overclocked wow! ^^
     
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    Oh man i just pulled my trigger on mine to but oh well. i'm happy with what i got i'll just upgrade when i get the chance
     
  10. Blacky

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    Depends on the 9300M the GS gets 1800 while the 9300M G scores around 2000. They are different cores GS - 8 shaders G - 16 shaders.

    As I wrote there, there are myriad of cards in between, those are just reference points.

    And yes the 8600M GT is the same as the 9500M GS but they aslo made the 8600M into the 9600M and a myriad of versions of it with different clocks. It depends how the cores come out from the production line. Some cores performe better, others worse.
     
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    ATI has much better products than nVidia right now. This is an example of that. I doubt you can get dual 9800M GTXs in SLI for $2200.
     
  12. Blacky

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    I highly doubt BTW GTX 295 will ever make it to mobility, next release will be 40nm versions of GT212/214 (If we're lucky), or 55nm versions of GTX 260/280.
     
  14. Blacky

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    I agree on that. In terms of power consumption it's virtually impossible, maybe only on 20nm ? :p

    But thinking of Nvidia's naming scheame I can see them releasing a "GTX 295M" based on the 260 - 216 40nm.