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    Nvidia Quadro NVS 320m Drivers

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Chroniccold, Sep 20, 2007.

  1. Chroniccold

    Chroniccold Newbie

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    I just bought an HP Compaq 8710p and it has a Nvidia Quadro NVS 320m Graphics card. I heard that you could install consumer drivers on it and it should perform as well as an 8600 gt in gaming. So I was wondering if anyone knew which drivers these are. Do I select 8600gt on the drivers section of the nvidia page, or quadro drivers and download the only one they have listed? If anyone has any links to any drivers, that would really help me out thanks ;)
     
  2. Burgerlim

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    hi, Looking at the same notebook too.. care to share any advice in terms of its graphics processor in application so far on default driver? (been looking at this custom driver set as well)
     
  3. Charles P. Jefferies

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    I just bought the same notebook directly from HP. I was wondering if the native installed drivers are good enough to do serious 3d work (Maya, Max, etc.) and also for general purpose gaming? I'm afraid that installing consumer drivers may interfere with the professional grade drivers suited for high end 3d programs. I really would like a balanced machine with decent gaming capabilities but not at the expense of high end functionality.
     
  5. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Ok guys, I think I can help. odin243 helped me out, so I'll pass the knowledge on...

    The NVS 320M is identical to the 8700GT. Either you install the Quadro drivers or the GeForce drivers. Quadro drivers are optimized for workstation programs, GeForce drivers for DirectX like stuff. Two worlds, same card.

    Either way, I do believe that most of the time you'll be fine no matter WHAT drivers you use. But from a gaming standpoint, the GeForce drivers might be better. With the stock drivers from HP, I was getting ~8550-8600. On the GeForce drivers I was getting ~8950. Same card, same clocks, just new drivers.

    No matter what, uninstall your old drivers and reboot first. If you have the option to delete all the driver files, please do so.

    My steps are assuming you have Vista64, though the process will be virtually identical for any version...
    So, if you want to install the latest Quadro drivers...
    If you are burning to use the GeForce drivers, do this instead...
    When all is said and done, reboot and you should be good to go.
     
  6. Yareck

    Yareck Notebook Enthusiast

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    @Greg

    Hi, thanks for tutorial - it works, but I am wonder if it changes anything. I tried to use "geforce" type of install and it was successfull, but I have geforce 8700GT name only in Device Menager (and Graphic Card Tab). it is still NVS 320M in nVidia configuration tab (in properties of screen). I tested 3D MArk 06 (driver 163.69 on XP) with "geforce" type of instalation and with "quadro" type of installation and results are same. I think this settings are same - only name of device was changed. Correct me if I am wrong. Thanks in advance for respond :)
     
  7. antic

    antic Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks Greg, I'm looking at getting the same laptop, sounds great. Does anyone have any direct experience now of it's performance game-wise?

    Also, I'll be sticking with XP - will the above-mentioned drivers work in XP?

    Cheers
     
  8. odin243

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    Make sure you completely uninstalled any previous drivers. The performance difference between latest Quadro drivers and latest Geforce drivers won't be huge, but it will give you better compatibility for newer DirectX games if you use the Geforce method.

    Just download the latest XP 32-bit drivers from LaptopVideo2Go, and then follow the steps posted.
     
  9. antic

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    Brilliant, many thanks!
     
  10. StoryR

    StoryR Notebook Geek

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    I hate to bump and old thread (but I have this bookmarked so I can keep updating my drivers for my 8710p to be 8700gt drivers). I just installed the newest drivers (well second newest 169.02 instead of 169.04) and everything worked, but the nVidia Control Panel in my taskbar still shows the GPU as the 320M. Is this a problem? In my device manager it shows as the 8700M GT, but for some reason the nVidia control panel won't show it :(

    Thanks for the help with all of this guys, this machine runs all of my games amazingly. However Greg I have been awaiting your review for weeks ;)
     
  11. antic

    antic Notebook Consultant

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    StoryR, have you dared to try the Crysis demo yet? :) Would be great to know how that performs!
     
  12. StoryR

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    No I haven't yet, I've been too busy playing TF2 :)

    I also bought the Hitman Game Pack from steam, but apparently my computer is "too good" to play the first two games :confused:

    I might give the Crysis demo a shot this weekend and I will let you all know :D
     
  13. StoryR

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    I am also quoting myself here bump this to the top and see if anyone has an answer for me :confused: :(
     
  14. odin243

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    If you have the newest drivers and are not noticing any compatibility problems with new games, then it's not a problem.
     
  15. Fabian

    Fabian Notebook Enthusiast

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    What drivers would you say are the best? I am running 169.02 now getting 4475 in 3dmark06. But I dont really understand which are the last drivers when I check laptopvideo2go.. hm

    //Fabian
     
  16. odin243

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    If you're playing Crysis, then those drivers are the best. Otherwise, you'd have to benchmark some of the newer drivers in whatever game you're playing, because aside from compatibility fixes, driver performance in the more recent 156.xx, 163.xx, and 167.xx series' depends on the game.
     
  17. Fabian

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    What is the difference between 156.xx, 163.xx, and 167.xx series?
    In general.. 169.02 to me (being ignorant) sound like a more recent (better? hehe) driver.

    //Fabian
     
  18. odin243

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    169.02 is not (strictly speaking) the latest driver, however it has the most compatibility fixes, being the Crysis beta driver. Also, most recent does not always mean best.
     
  19. Fabian

    Fabian Notebook Enthusiast

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    I tried Crysis 800x600, all medium except for high shading, DX10.
    Smooth but some weird outlines on some trees and bushes.
    Also tried DX9 mode. If I raise resolution my 8710p starts to cough.

    //Fabian
     
  20. odin243

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    You should be able to get much better performance than that. What kind of framerates are you getting?
     
  21. Fabian

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    How do i check framerates? some setting?
     
  22. odin243

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    I believe there's a console command to display your fps (check the Crysis thread or google) or you can always use FRAPS.
     
  23. Burgerlim

    Burgerlim Notebook Geek

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    Hi,

    Just wonder if its possible to load FX driver on NVS 320 with MAX / CAD accelerator.? Gonna lay my hand on 3D soon, wonder if its possible to on this NVS 320m..

    Thanks!
     
  24. antic

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    I was able to try the Crysis demo today at the local laptop shop, on an 8710P. Drivers were stock, and it wasn't that great even on all medium settings (no AA). At a rough guess I'd say ~15 FPS. Sure hope it can get better than that! That gfx card is supposed to have some grunt so I've heard.
     
  25. odin243

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    It's certainly possible to load the drivers, but some of the FX OpenGL acceleration options are locked in the hardware. On a desktop card it's possible to hardmod a Geforce into a Quadro (google around for guides), but I've never tried it on a mobile card. Should be possible, as long as it's a modular card.
     
  26. Burgerlim

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    Thanks Odin..

    Looking for softmod.. not sure if possible... been googling without success... just hope for it..
     
  27. odin243

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    No, it is impossible to softmod in the modern nvidia cards.
     
  28. Burgerlim

    Burgerlim Notebook Geek

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    What is the best way to uninstall all previous driver from system? been trying to install custom driver for 320m without success... Thanks
     
  29. drik

    drik Newbie

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    can anyone help me with the install of the 8700M drivers instead of the 320M ones? I`m having real problems...

    I followed all the steps in the first stage instructions but my system won`t see the 8700... donnow why... it looks like no drivers were installed at all... the nvidia drivers won`t show even in the add/remo programs window... anyone? what am i doing wrong?

    i uninstalled the previous drivers then installed the new ones of the 8800 the install runs smoothly with the modified INF and completes succesfully and asks for restart.. i reboot but nothing.. as if nothing was just installed... the 320m drivers work good... :|
     
  30. antic

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    I'm getting my HP 8710 tomorrow, this will be the first thing I do. If I'm successful, will post what I did.

    I'm going to try the Omega drivers first, though. They've always been good to me. :)

    I'd suggest giving them a go, in case you have better luck that way.
    www.omegadrivers.net
     
  31. drik

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    thanx.. i`ll give them a go... i also tried the x`treme g ones... same as the original driver... doesn`t have any effect... no install in add/remove prog and the card shows up as unidentified. uff...
     
  32. odin243

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    Which drivers did you try to install?
     
  33. drik

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    i tried the default 169.12 and169.04 and the xtremg 169.04... 64 bits Vista OS ...after install my card is always Standard VGA Graphics Adapter... donnow what to do...
     
  34. odin243

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    You used the correct modded INF's, right?
     
  35. StoryR

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    and modded them accordingly. That was the step I missed was making sure I replaced the correct lines of text as above. To be honest the explination above isn't the best, sort of left me with a general idea, but I did some poking around the INF file to get it.
     
  36. drik

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    yes I used the right INFs with both versions of the driver...
     
  37. Burgerlim

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    same here been trying to use modded driver.. with out success.. think should dig into the inf for details..

    some advice needed.. is the "modded INF" so called downloaded from source is to be use directly or we personally need to mode it further? TIA
     
  38. StoryR

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    IF and only IF you are trying to get your computer to register your 320M as the 8700M GT then you need to open the INF and actually change some text. This worked for me (still using the 169.02 drivers) and my computer recognizes my GPU as an 8700M GT in most places, I cannot tell why sometimes it is still listed as a 320M. But the drivers work great for me :)
     
  39. drik

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    Guess i`ll be stickin with the Quadro drivers that work for now... until someone can give me some kind of advice... thanks...
     
  40. primitivc

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    LV2GO is down, and they had the links to the self-extracting drivers... if you download from the Nvidia page, they have self-executable files.... So when you run them they automatically run the .inf file that is included in the package (the non-modded .inf)...

    Solution:

    Open the "driver".exe with WinZip or WinRAR... extract the files to a folder of your choice... copy the "modded .inf" to that folder... and run setup.exe... then you will notice during the installation it says that you are missing some of the files, but the thing is you are not... they just haven't been renamed yet (by unzipping rather then directly running the self-executable file you skipped that part)... most likely you will be asked for:

    nvdispsr.dll
    nvgamesr.dll
    nvmccssr.dll
    nvvitvsr.dll
    nvwssr.dll

    You do have them... only that they look like this

    nvdisps.dl_
    nvgames.dl_
    nvmccss.dl_
    ...

    I am sure you can see the pattern...

    If you do have the self-extractable driver package, then the last step is redundant....

    Just copy the modded .inf...

    I attached the modded inf for the 169.04 drivers, that makes your 320m look like 8700m gt... at the bottom of my post

    cheers
     

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    i think the nv4_disp.inf is for xp... anywayz... i have de vista64 one and modded it the right way all the versions i tried... also tried the extracting method like u said... thing is... without renaming any of the dlls the setup will complete. doesn`t say anything about missing dlls. :| anywayz... donnow what the hell is going on.. guess i`ll throw this piece of crap vista out the damn window and go with xp... god damn it... or stick with the quadro drivers...
     
  42. odin243

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    LaptopVideo2Go is back up, so you can try again with the newest drivers if you haven't already. Also, you don't really have to mod the INF's, the performance difference between Quadro drivers and Geforce drivers is minimal.
     
  43. primitivc

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    Confirmed... tried with Crysis, Half life 2: Episode two, Bioshock...

    The difference is 2 fps at most...
     
  44. odin243

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    Correct. The main difference is that official WHQL Quadro mobility drivers aren't updated nearly as often as the geforce ones, so the quadro drivers tend to be older.
     
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    Hi,

    let me just ask one question about quadro 320M vs. quadro fx1600.

    Burgerlim was asking about the possibility of softmodding the 320M to quadro fx. The answer was negative. Ok i understood that, its not possible.

    But does the 320M have at least SOME hardware OPENGL acceleration, and can the card use them under 3dsmax(for example) through max's default opengl driver?? Or is it just the same when i use max's default opengl driver with any geforce (not quadro) card?

    Thank You,

    Karrer
     
  46. odin243

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    It should be exactly the same as when using it with any normal geforce card.
     
  47. antic

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    I've got the 8710, Quadro 320 card. Haven't tried replacing any drivers, but games run really well - Crysis & Oblivion play well. Probably no need to use any different drivers.
     
  48. Burgerlim

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    Hi, been using this machine on viz2006 (max 8 eqv.) on opengl platform, think its very smooth on mid size scene (interior static), even in multi viewports. feel better for me comparing to my old T2, FX560 cards.. not sure if its the same on ge cards though (think should test that out and do some community contribution :D, will do that for this.. )

    for ge cards when working with max, try to work in 1 viewport (since ge cards OGL dun support some ogl acceration on multi viewport and generate full screen everything you move on a viewport). you should get by with most of that. HTH
     
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    Hi, There,

    indead.. down the road D3D seems to be the key.. OGL is going EOL.. (end of life) since AutoDesk is now fully supporting D3D.. you may find this thread interesting instead about why OGL is doom! :D
    http://discussion.autodesk.com/thread.jspa?threadID=586361

    Basically if you are going vista.. forget about OGL... as mentioned in your linked forum.. its somehow not progress anymore. & Dx10 should (is AFAIK) be far superior. this is one of the reasons for me getting this 320m instead :D
    but in reality.. Vista and Max / Viz still has some work to do before they agree each other fully...

    HTH..
     
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