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    Nvidia WHQL 347.09 game ready driver released 23rd december

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by MrDJ, Dec 23, 2014.

  1. thegh0sts

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    trying this with dragon age inquisition to see if this will get rid of the micro stuttering...i have the adaptive vsync off to make sure.

    ie. i want to see if the adaptive vsync is causing the micro stuttering for dragon age inquisition in particular.
     
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    Adaptive vsync sucks. Just limit the FPS using nVidia Inspector or MSI Afterburner.
     
  3. octiceps

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    Not recommended. Using an external tool to limit FPS increases load time significantly in Frostbite Engine games. Plus the driver FPS limiter in Inspector is notoriously flaky compared to RTSS, a hit-or-miss really depending on driver version. Just use the engine command to limit FPS.
     
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    Oh yeah, I forgot this is a Frostbite game. But yeah using in-game FPS limiter works fine too if anything like BF series.
     
  5. TomJGX

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    Why in the name of hell do you people limit FPS? MOOOREE FPS IS ALWAYS BETTER!!! ;)
     
  6. Getawayfrommelucas

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    I actually had to disable this in order to play DAI online. My guy was freezing in place during cutscenes and I was unable to move.
     
  7. thegh0sts

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    some one said it was the Afterburner OSD that caused the issue so i am gonna try and play the game without the OSD and use the in-game fps command to show the fps.
     
  8. octiceps

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    Because your screen has a refresh rate and anything over it is more partial frames on-screen and more tearing, i.e. going to waste for no visual benefit.
     
  9. Loui2

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    After upgrading to this driver I wasn't able to overclock my 860m with MSI, EVGA, and nvidia inspector but then I tried intel extreme tuning utility and for some reason that works.
     
  10. James D

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    I see no reason why would new Nvidia drivers lock CPU overclocking.
     
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  11. TomJGX

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    I've not got screen tearing with higher fps... Don't know why people seem to be getting it and I don't..
     
  12. TBoneSan

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    Aparently these drivers are locking maxwell cards out from overclocking. I'm assuming his 860 is the 2gb Maxwell variant which would make sense. Not the case with 344.75 which alot of the guys with 970/80m's are using. Nvidia are playing funny bunnies once again.
     
  13. TomJGX

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    I wonder when NVIDIA will release it's next driver.. Been 2-3 weeks.. Earlier they were releasing 1 driver a week when Maxwell came out..
     
  14. octiceps

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    You have bad eyesight.
     
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  15. thegh0sts

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    Capping = lower temps and lower power usage.

    Enough said!
     
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  16. Loui2

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    I wasn't discussing CPU when I mentioned Intel extreme tuning utility, I should have been more clear. Intel exteme tuning utility(IXTU) unlike the other softwares I mentioned allowed me to overclock my GPU's core clock.
    This wasn't the case before the driver update.

    I'm not sure if you were referring to me but yes I do believe I have the 860m 2gb Maxwell variant.
     
  17. octiceps

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    XTU lets you overclock the Nvidia GPU?! :err:
     
  18. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    Screen tearing is solved by enabling V-Sync
     
  19. Loui2

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    Correct me if I'm wrong :confused:
    [​IMG]
     
  20. octiceps

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    That's your integrated graphics.
     
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    Me too. I see no reason why would new Nvidia drivers lock iGPU built in CPU overclocking.
     
  22. Loui2

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    I'm not sure if this was mentioned around here but I believe Nvidia system tools seems to be whats replacing unofficial overclocking.
    This: NVIDIA DRIVERS 6.06 allowed me to overclock my gpu beyond what msi,evga, and other OCing softwares allowed.

    According to someone on some other website (not sure if I'm allowed to link it), this is what was in some change log.
    "Overclocking
    GPU overclocking is no longer supported
    in the default GPU driver control panel.
    This feature is available in the NVIDIA
    System Tools software, which you can
    download from
    NVIDIA.com"
     
  23. octiceps

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    Driver overclocking (Nvidia System Tools/nTune and NVTweak/Coolbits before it) has been dead for years. It's not coming back.

    Look at the date on there. Almost 5 years ago and only supports up to a few Fermi GPUs.
     
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  24. Loui2

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    The software is allowing me to overclock my core clock at the moment while nothing else is able too.
    This http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/347.09/347.09-win8-win7-winvista-desktop-release-notes.pdf also mentions:
    "Overclocking
    GPU overclocking is no longer supported
    in the default GPU driver control panel.
    This feature is available in the NVIDIA
    System Tools software, which you can
    download from
    NVIDIA.com"

    It's release notes for the 347.09 (Dec 17 2014) and it's saying to use a 5 year old software? Why?
     
  25. octiceps

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    No idea. Nvidia System Tools hasn't worked for me since it was deprecated. Actually won't even install on drivers from the last few years.

    There's a lot of old and outdated info in every driver release notes that Nvidia never bothers to update or remove.
     
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    Hey does anyone know why the hell is the adaptive vSync option not there in 344.75 drivers for 970/980M? it's seems NVIDIA hasn't enabled it yet for these cards...

    Also, Octiceps, my eyesight isn't bad.. I have seen some tearing quite strangely in BF4 multiplayer when your'e killed and it displays the enemy that killed you's information in those black bars.. There seems to be some tearing there but generally in game when I'm playing, 0 screen tearing..
     
  27. James D

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    Really? What about proof? What else does software with Release Date: 2011.12.19 allow you? Man you already gave us so much of new info, albeit not trusted one.
     
  28. thegh0sts

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    have you read the previous release notes of the previous drivers? i can tell you haven't.

    why i ask? because i have gone through the previous release notes for the 344.75 and 344.65 drivers and they both have the exact same text regarding overclocking. so the bit you quoted has nothing to do with the OC lock in the 347.09 drivers for the 900M cards.
     
  29. squarll

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    It is all about money and marketing. I was able to use my 850m at 1500Mhz gpu chip after modding. And i must say the performance is at the level of gtx 965m with overclocked ram even near 870m and almost as fast as radeon 8970m. So they definitely dont't want people be able use that low middle-range gpu at the level of a high eng gpu because they don't make more money with it neither notebook manufactures do. Notebooks with gtx 965 are twice as expensive as with gtx 850m. They are going to lose money, if customers buy notebooks with gtx 850m and bring them to 965 level just by simple overclocking.
     
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  30. squarll

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    It has nothing to do with the disabled overclocking in drivers. This statement concerns deactivated cool bits and is 5-6 years old. there was an overclocking panel in nvidia drivers,so there was no need in external tools for overclocking. They just disabled support for this panel and thats all. Now they just disabled the ability to set higher clocks on the driver level.
     
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    #BoycottNvidia

    Oh wait.
     
  32. squarll

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    That is definitely what millions of users are going to do if there will be no overcloking abilities in the future realeases. For the sake of amd. I payed money while overclocking was enabled and i want it back. Because if i new there wouldn't be any over. options i wouldn't have bought my laptop on nvidia gpu!
     
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    Seriously? Maxwell GPU's are still faster than any overclocked AMD. Don't kid yourself. Until AMD actually releases anything comparable to the 970m and 980m there's not much else to do about it.
     
  34. squarll

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    i mean middle range Maxwell. We are talking about 850m-860m, not 970-980.
     
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    Wut...? That's Kepler not Maxwell.
     
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    850M is GM107
    860M can be either GM107 or GK104

    Sent from my Nexus 5
     
  37. HTWingNut

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    Even there, good luck finding a laptop with an AMD mobile mid-range GPU, and one with similar performance/TDP. The whole point is that we are stuck. Stuck with nVidia because AMD doesn't or can't compete at the moment. For the high end MXM you have 7970m or 8970m or R9 M290X, all of which can barely compete with the two year old 680m. For mid-range you just better hope a laptop is made with those chips because they're all soldered. So if you want to boycott, your options are slim. I don't have that kind of fortitude.
     
  38. squarll

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    I don't need a competition. I need the chips i payed for. And i payed for 850m, that i could run on 1500 mhz and i want it back. I would buy a cheaper Laptop, if i new i would't be able to overclock.
     
  39. be77solo

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    You can still overclock using the 345's just fine.... so you still "technically" have exactly what you bought originally ;)

    Playing devil's advocate here ha, but I agree, hopefully it's just a bug and not a new position by Nvidia.
     
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    Hahaha.. Overclockers are an edge case
     
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    What's so funny? I'm not getting the joke.
     
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    Do you really think so? Every man and his dog with a gaming gpu dabbles with OCing
     
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