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    Nvidia announces Geforce 800M series of graphics chips - Maxwell 28nm

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by techtonic, Mar 12, 2014.

  1. techtonic

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    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    Fermi? Really nVidia, really?
     
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    So official ShadowPlay support is finally coming to notebooks? 4.5 months late but good job Nvidia. :thumbsup:
     
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    They got busted. NDA rears its ugly head again. :p
     
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    1029MHz STOCK? Woohoo! Pretty incredulous.
     
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    Well, it was nice while it lasted. Having the latest and greatest, I mean. Stupid technology, why are you always progressing? Why couldn't you allow me to have the best GPU foreeeeevvvvveeeeerrrrr and ever and ever and ever...

    But really? Fermi? God damn Fermi. NVIDIA, he was good in his day but he needs to be retired, he really does. Let him rest in peace already!

    20nm Maxwell is gonna be out of this world. Mind blowing stuff. 28nm is already crazily impressive.
     
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    I have to agree there.. For some reason I thought I had the last Fermi chip. Maybe it's not mobile but desktop? I don't recall any of the 700M series being Fermi.
     
  9. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    The lower end was still Fermi with some Kepler's chips

    dazing and confusing via taptalk
     
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    Fermi was never good chip, worst Nvidia ever.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Not even close. We have to start discussing the geforce 4 mx 420 or fx 5800 ultra if we are discussing worst cards.
     
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    Might as well make this thread our new home.

    Here is 800M series and their official specifications


    HOLY CRAP GT 840M have a low TDP :eek:


    Many new features exclusive for Nvidia users


    Here is how Nvidia Experience look like where you get to pick your desired settings and it will control the GPU to preserve power and to run cooler if you want


    Examples of upcoming notebooks with the 800M series
     
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    When will this new version of the GFE be out? ShadowPlay, I wants my ShadowPlays! Gives it to me, NVIDIA; I needs it. It's been 6 months since desktop releases; enough is enough!
     
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    @Cakefish: Probably a new version ready to download either today or sometime very soon :)

    Did anyone notice that GTX 860M and GTX 850M is the exact same GPU? If you find same notebook with GTX 850M but cheaper, buy that one!
     
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    The only diffference between 850m and 860m is the clock, right?

    Then it is weird that they put that 850m has a 50W TDp, and the 860m a 60W tdp
     
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    Yup, just flash to a new vbios with same clocks as GTX 860M and whoila, you have a GTX 860M :D

    Nobody have said that GTX 860M have that TDP? If they do then they are very wrong. It is lower than that for sure.
     
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    Wow this is awesome.
    Nvidia have just announced a bundle with the upcoming game "Daylight" for anyone who buys a notebook with GTX 700M or GTX 800M :thumbsup:

    [​IMG]

    Sweclockers
     
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    I have been looking at the Schenker review at notebookcheck and it performs like the 770m, and in some games like Grid 2 o Bioshock Infinite, it outperforms it. Unfortunately the temperaturas are not too good as it is a 13 inch notebook, i am eager to see the 15 an 17 inches laptops reviews
     
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    baii Sone

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    870m is a 192bit 680m? and 880m is a 780m.

    So 680m still pwning..?

    Assuming OV/OC'd ofc.
     
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    According to GPUBOSS the 880m demands more energy then the 780m! I think it is the other way round?
     
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    The CNET article claims that 880M almost doubles performance in Metro Last Light over 780M (according to them 30.67fps vs 18.67fps). That's clearly not right. Something must be borked with their Alienware 17 test machine.
     
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    I wish they sold the ASUS ROG in UK... (they do but not high-end version)

    EDIT: Oh I see that they do now...
     
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    880m would demand more. It's still Kepler, higher clocked than 780m. Maxwell 880mx or whatever they decide to call it (890m/980m???) should run cooler and perform significantly faster.


    How come notebookcheck always gets their Clevo's before me dammit! :p
     
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    860m has gsync. wonder if they will make laptop monitors with gsync built in
     
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    NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX with Optimus Technology :D
     
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    I'm confused! At some sites I see the 880m needs 100Watts and others claim it is like the 780m 122Watt, so what is the real deal now?
     
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    Probably better binned GPU.
    It is also said that the TDP of the GTX 870M is almost similar as the GTX 770M.

    That explained the GTX 870M on a 14" Razer Blade.
     
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    Woah, I just read an article about this launch over on IGN and the amount of hate spewed onto laptop users by desktop elitists and console fanatics is truly horrifying. Laptops are still a laughing stock in the wider gaming community, it's sad that people don't see the benefits of portability and compact, all-in-one form factors and much sadder still that they throw abuse at anyone who decides to primarily game on laptops. People should be allowed to play on whatever platform they wish without being taunted and ridiculed.
     
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    Keep in mind that only heavy, loud and ugly Gaming Notebooks will get an GTX 860m and up, regardless if its efficient or not. The normal notebooks will get up to GT 840M, which are 64 Bit urghs
     
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    One thing ive noticed is that the tdp requirement of the w230st and w230ss are quite similar. 94W vs 90W while running 3dmark06.

    Edit :
    My bad. Forgot about the 4810MQ CPU and Higher resolution Display.
     
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    The Razer Blade 14, Razer Blade Pro, MSI GS Series, Aorus X7 and others are far from heavy, loud and ugly.
     
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    1. Oh nice, the 870M gets the full speed RAM upgrade. That sets it apart from the 680M.

    2. There is no way in hell, the Razer Blade 14 can cool the GTX 870M. No way. That has to be a typo, because the RBP only gets the 860M.
     
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    Awesome news! Yay for Shadowplay!
     
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    You are allowed to ignore them you know...

    Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk
     
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    Hey guys. How are you?

    I've following the news about Maxwell in this forum since it's beginning. I need a new laptop because I have none. My last laptop was a MacBook with a 320m on it. And also I'm not so much into hardcore fps gaming. I like mostly rpg but I have my eyes in this Gen so I'd like to play titles like the Witcher 3.

    They are offering the 15" Clevo with a 860m for 1400 usd in my country and the 850m for about a hundred dollars less.
    The problem is the 860m has i3 and 4gb and the 850m has i5 and 4gb both has well on it. Do you think it's gonna throttle the 860m a setting with i3 and 4gb? I'll not use the processor power for anything else than gaming and watching to videos.
    Thanks and sorry for my bad English

    Tl;dr
    Will i3 haswell and 4gb throttle 860m?
     
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    Not a typo. Razer stated that they modified the cooling system to handle the heat. The new RBP only got the 860M because Razer is now marketing the 17" for professional use that can still play games very well. It appears the Razer Blade 14 is now their go to mobile gaming platform.
     
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    Now this very impressive from 840M, exactly what I was waiting for. It means the the whole laptop power consumption won't be higher than 40W during gaming, especially with battery boost. About 860M, I can imagine the Kepler version will go into 15.6" regular laptops and the maxwell into Ultrabooks. Otherwise 850M is the winner, that is all Maxwell :).
     
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    Where did they say this exactly?

    Im in the market for a new laptop and between this and the Arous X7 what do you guys think?

    Whats the better future proofer?
     
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    I find it weird they pair an 860m with an i3, it could've at least been an i5. In the cpu-intensive games I am kinda sure it will hinder the 860m. Witcher 3 surely won't do well with a laptop i3. 4 GB RAM at the moment is fine, but not future proof.
     
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    If anyone is pondering about the MSI GE70 notebook with GTX 860M, I would rather recommend the Asus G750JM instead.
    Way better cooling and it features a 180W PSU instead of the 120W PSU you find with the GE70 notebook. It cost $100 more but it should be well worth it.

    GTX 880M should need more power than GTX 780M. GTX 780M runs at 850MHz, GTX 880M is the same card but runs at 1GHz.

    Yeah that is wrong. According to their own slides, GTX 880M should be 15% faster than GTX 780M. Which sounds about right because it is clocked 15% higher :)

    lol IGN is full of fanboys and children that argue which console is better than the other. Constantly post childish gifs and they are all a bunch of sheeps.
    Desktops have their pros and cons. Same with notebooks. I personally need a notebook because of various reasons.

    Really? There is a review of a 13" notebook with GTX 860M on Notebookcheck. It certainly could handle GTX 860M, in fact it only reached 88C with Furmark blasting on full speed. ;) MSI have 15" thin notebook with GTX 860M.
    GTX 860M offer high end performance but is very efficient so it doesnt run hot.

    Like the guy above me says, there might be some games where an i3 will certainly bottleneck the 860M. And many games are CPU dependant, which you would get good FPS with an i5, but you are there, stuck with an i3 giving you poor FPS instead.
    RPG is usually CPU dependant too if I`m not wrong.
    Get atleast an i5 with the GTX 860M. $1300 for a notebook with i3 processor is unheard. You can get a Asus G750JM with GTX 860M with i7 for $1399 (in the US). Look more, don`t buy that i3 notebook
     
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    That's impressive and maybe the screen has better quality than the previous one, which had its fair share of criticisms, but oh, that price!
     
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    Einstain will be better. 2gen after there will be better gpus.

    20NM Maxwell this summer.
     
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    But 870m NOW? Sheesh, Why not wait for 870m Maxwell. I find it hard to believe they can efficiently cool that 870m with an i7 quad in a 0.7" thick chassis. Plus only a 150W PSU. I bet they limit the performance of the 870m.

    The screen better be impoved, I can't imagine it not being since IPS by nature have great viewing angles and brightness and contrast, and it's also a touch screen.

    It's to the point now, where if they offer the 870m variant of Maxwell in 6-8 months, I may just choke down the cost and buy one. Because 870m Maxwell (870mx?) will probably exceed 880m performance and run at 65-70W TDP. I have a feeling that Aorus will be offering something similar this summer though with Maxwell. Let the games begin! :)
     
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    Don't get get an i3 for Witcher 3. It will bottleneck GTX-level mobile GPU's and if you recall, even Witcher 2 benefitted from quad-core CPU's. With Witcher 3 more than a year out you have plenty of time to get a better deal on something with an i5 or ideally an i7. Witcher 3 is gonna bring PC's to their knees. Can It Run Witcher 3™ is gonna be the next Can It Run Crysis™. :D
     
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