Nvidia announces Geforce 800M series of graphics chips - Maxwell 28nm

Screw those guys.. A notebook as powerful as the Blade 14 with that panel is not a laughing stock. They are just hating for hating. Maybe they're jelly that they can't afford one.

 

Really. I mean I get taunted because I'm playing games on my Casio calculator.

Just ignore it. Anyone who insults someone else for how they play their games is a bit insecure and childish. Desktops are the best bang for your buck absolutely. But they also don't offer portability. Since they're always down in their mom's basement, I guess it doesn't matter to them.

 

Thank you, EvoHavok , Cloudfire and octiceps

Yeah, my country sucks. I have 1k usd on my hands and I can't buy anything better than a dell with ULV proccessor and 8850m, in my country.

The Sager NP7358 (Clevo W350ST) with i5 4200m, 4GB RAM and 860m will cost me almost 1500 usd. And it's the only option in here for the 800m series. MSI and Asus just sell entry-level laptops in here.

Cloudfire you said that 850m is the same card as 860m, right? Because the 850m clevo/sager laptop with i5 4200m and 4GB RAM costs 1400 usd. What you think is a better decision talking about performance?

Thank you again. This forum is amazing,

Jon.

 

no, 850M and 860M are not exactly the same. as far as we now now, the clock rates of the 850M are a bit lower. but anyway: that Sager does look promising. the 850M should roughly get you the performance of a GF765M, which was a very good entry card for serious gaming until last week. ^^

 

Oh thank you. I know about that clock difference.

I was talking about this post

"Yup, just flash to a new vbios with same clocks as GTX 860M and whoila, you have a GTX 860M"

I'm newbie about such flash thing so I asked about that.

 

It is the exact same GPU (GM107, 640 cores/5SMM, 128bit). BUT according to Nvidia, there are GTX 850M versions with DDR3 and GDDR5. Make sure you get the GDDR5 version because it is much faster than DDR3. Both DDR3/GDDR5 versions have 2MB L2 cache which helps alot with the bandwidth, but buy the GDDR5 version to be safe.

To get GTX 860M speeds, you either use MSI Afterburner and overclock it from 876MHz to 1029MHz, or you make a new vbios with 1029 as max clock with program like Kepler BIOS Tweaker. Or have someone, like SVL at Techinferno forum, make this vbios for you.

GTX 850M + i5 will be much better buy than GTX 860M + i3.

 

welp, AMD will make a new gpu for miners and the 290x prices should drop soon. Some insight info

 

The display will be better quality. Ignoring the resolution (which even with an 870M will not be practical to game with), it's an IGZO display and is IPS. It will look a lot better, though there have been issues with ghosting and of course an IPS display has longer response times.

 

just a question: where did NV say, that the 850M is available with DDR3? the only slides I know show, that the GTX850M is only chipped with GDDR5. if your infos are true, you will have to be VERY careful, when it comes to NBs with the 850M

edit: I have now found some slides, that say "up to 2GB GDDR5" for the 850M and even some slides that state, that DDR3 is an option for 850M. Nandtechs article says something different. I do hope those guys have it right.

as for the Asus N550/750-series with Maxwell: there I only found the amount of memory, but not the typ of mem. this will be an very interesitng point for the fure ...

 

Search for the Asus N550JK and you will see that have DDR3 vram

Notebooks & Ultrabooks - N550JK

 

Thank you again. Unfortunately they are just selling the ddr3 version of 850m. I'll go with 860m i5 4200m and 4GB for now. In a near future I'll upgrade for 8GB.

Are there any benchmarks of an overclocked 860m? Or it's what we can already see in notebookcheck?

 

thx for the link. the german homepage of Asus didn't have specs yet. though I have slight doubts about the Asus specs. it wouldn't be the first product release with false specs. saw something like this to happen at Samsungs HP ...

so still crossing fingers. (plus being curious about benches of the DDR3-variant of the 850M.)

 

Nvidia Brasil blog stated that one of the stores that sells barebones in here will have 850m DDR3 in theirs laptops. It's official, from their blog. However, they mention MSI although they don't sell gaming notebooks officially in my country. But people have called to this store and they confirmed they are selling 850m ddr3 version.
http://blog.nvidiabrasil.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/tabelanotebooks3.png

They're selling this for 1267 usd, it's just SAGER NP6658 with the worst 850m version.

 

As other people have said, it is not a typo or wrong information (unfortunately), putting the crappiest Vram version of the GPU is kind of an Asus N series tradition

 

hrmpf! what a mess. well, looks like that 850M will be skipped by me. so I am looking for those NBs with the 860M instead. they have nice offers for a Gigabyte P27K right now here. just 700€ for i5-4200M, 4GB RAM and GTX765M, without OS. I wonder what will be the upgrade by Gigabyte. 850M wouldn't make any sense, so I am really hoping for 860M and only a slight increase in price ...

but that's completely OT ...

 

GeForce GTX 850M | Specifications | GeForce

Like people here says, it is a tradition that OEMs build a ton of versions of a GPU with various clocks and some have DDR3 while other have GDDR5.
However like I said earlier, the DDR3 version still have the great L2 cache the GDDR5 have. The L2 cache is likely responsible that the GTX 860M can compete with GTX 770M, a midrange Kepler with 192bit bus, and even sometimes beat it by a good amount. So it can go both ways if one look at DDR3 vs GDDR5 in the GTX 850M. DDR3 version may not be that bad.

We are just gonna have to wait and see a review.

No benchmarks yet, but a GTX 750 Ti is essentially the same.
Anandtech overclocked their 750 Ti to 1285MHz and got a nice boost in performance
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7764/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-750-ti-and-gtx-750-review-maxwell/23

I`m not sure if you are able to overclock so high on stock vbios, but you might get that to work with either just a little more voltage, or you have to resort to a new vbios.

 

I wish I'd read your post before I bought 870M lol

 

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