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    Oblivion for my Xbox360 or laptop?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by srdhkl, Jul 16, 2006.

  1. srdhkl

    srdhkl Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Hey everyone,

    Hoping those of you with an Nvidia 6800 could help me decide if Oblivion would be better played on my Xbox 360 or my Dell 9300 (2.0ghz, 1 GB, 256 MB Nvidia 6800)?

    I'm guessing the Xbox 360, but just curious what you all think.
     
  2. Lil Mayz

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    if you buy the game for your Xbox 360, I'm guessing graphical quality and game will be slightly better, depending on what CRT TV/monitor you have got.

    However, if you plan to play Oblivion online, I would suggest buying the game for PC as I believe you have to pay for Xbox Live.

    Buying it for PC means more versatility...to download cracks/patches/plug ins..etc.

    If you just want hassle free gaming, just buy it for the Xbox.
     
  3. Roberto91

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    Probably 360. If u had the 6800u0ltra i'd say PC, but get it for 360 since its not a Ultra.
     
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    Oblivion has no online gameplay options. Infact the game is designed in to not be an online game (mmorpg). Here are the basic pros and cons of a console vs a PC for oblivion.

    Xbox: Better graphics unless you have an uber computer to top the game out.
    Only the offical Bethesda mods are avalable, and those cost money
    PC: Has the ability to be better graphically, but only with an uber computer.
    MODS MODS MODS. There are already thousands and thousands of great user created and free mods for the game. This is the one reason I would say PC over console.

    Today I just downloaded a mod that added Paralax mapping to almost every texture in the game that didnt have it. Towns now look amazing because all the stonework is noe 3D like. And it has no impact on performance. Another mod I got was natural enviroments. It basically adds birds, insects, 4 seasons, multiple cloud and weather systems, optimized rainfall, more realistic texturing and sizes for trees, grass, and shrubs, and alot more. So if you only want graphics, go for the 360. But if you want amazing gameplay and thousands of mods, then go for the PC version.
     
  5. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Oblivion has extremely poor coding on PC. . . it is limited because it is a direct port from the Xbox. Get it for the xbox and avoid the hassle and frusturation of low performance not becuase your PC is slow, but because the game is junk.
     
  6. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Xbox 360 surely
     
  7. jeffmd

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    chaz, wth? read the post above you. ^^ If you have the hardware, pc is alot better, especialy because mods can increase graphic quality way beyond the original game.

    However back to the op, the laptop isnt gonna cut it for matching the xbox. You should take a look at the oblivion mod forums, then you can weigh in if the mods are worth a cut in graphic quality.
     
  8. Notebook Solutions

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    If you have an HD-TV go for the XBOX360 for sure! But if you have a bad, old TV go for the PC.

    But if you have a good HD-TV, it will look much better on the XBOX360 then the PC.

    Charlie :)
     
  9. kingcrowing

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    I concur with hitman, I would never buy a 360 (believe me I've really considered it) because I dont have an HDTV, I've got no need I dont watch enough TV, and 95% of my TV watching is TV on DVD so at this point I've got no reason to get an HDTV, after college I do plan on getting one, but at this point its hard to tell where the market is going, I may get a PS3 if it has a Blu-Ray player though...

    but back to the point, if you have a good HDTV go 360, if not then get it for PC
     
  10. jeffmd

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    hitman, err, my pc is runnin oblivion in higher res then xbox, with a better view distance, better textures and trees (through mods), and mods that make the environment look better like functional NPCs walking the paths between cities. Saying general statements like the xbox360 version will look better then the pc in all ways is just bogus.
     
  11. Charles P. Jefferies

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    I know what I said isn't the usual, PC is always better, but with these ridiculous ports from the Xbox, better off just getting it for that sometimes.
     
  12. jeffmd

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    What makes you think its a port? Oblivion has been demod on pc hardware long before the xbox360 was heard of. Heck some graphic options were only demod on pc, like environment shadowing.
     
  13. Geckoboy86

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    blu-ray is hd...so you'll need an hdtv anyway
    360 can be played on a normal tv with great graphics still....
     
  14. Charles P. Jefferies

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    It was designed for the Xbox 360 . . it is a port. It was designed to be used on that hardware.
     
  15. jeffmd

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    chaz, whered you read this?
     
  16. hydra

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    My son's XB 360 looks just amazing when run thru our sony 42" wide screen A10 in 720P mode. This is like running everything maxed on a 1280X720 LCD on a PC. The frame rates are very high compared to what I’m seeing at on my laptop.

    Unfortunately I end up looking like the Monty Python knight with one arm left when trying to use a 360 controller and a sword. My son says I’m retarded or something.. ;)
     
  17. Notebook Solutions

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    Hehe that is funny to read hydra :) I really believe it would look incredible on a 42" widescreen. In 720p it must look fantastic! And I adviced you that you would play better then your son, I feel guilty, hehe just joking.

    Charlie :)
     
  18. Charles P. Jefferies

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    chaz, uhmmm... while your right that they didnt really care to optimise a different interface for pc... thats just being lazy, that proofs nothing as for what the game was designed for first.

    Inconsistent performance? the game is a resource behemoth, you either need a really high end pc, or an xbox wich is equivilent of a high end pc. On both, they preform equil, infact under default conditions, the pc loads faster and such. And if you honestly think this is unoptimised, then they are pretty darn good at running unoptimised code made for a tri-core system on common single core CPU PC's.

    Sorry, as i stated, the game has been demod on PC long before xbox360 was announced.
     
  20. Sirius

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    if you have a gaming laptop with a nice gpu i'd say go for the pc version personally. If not xbox.
     
  21. Quatre

    Quatre Notebook Consultant

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    switched from Comcast internet using Motorola surfboard cable modem to Verizon FIOS using ActionTec router.

    daisychained the ActionTec which is kinda crappy to my Netgear g router and it was a pita.

    supposedly on most you can just disable dhcp to daisy chain but the netgear had an ip conflict and i can't remember what all i did with the verizon tech to get it working.

    i can get signal to my xbox 360 and its wireless adapter from either the actiontec or the netgear but i think the netgear gets a stronger signal.

    also the netgear at least had an open NAT when testing the the xbox live connection but the ActionTec is moderate which isnt' ideal but better then strict and everything still works.

    I ending up getting a netgear wall outlet inet connection sharing device which gives the 360 a pseudo wired connection but strangely enough when i stream 1080p wmvs from my pc they run smoother on the wireless connection then the wired through netgear recepticle thing.

    that tells me that the connection must lose some speed/power when going through the electric outlet. will have to do speed test on laptop through the wifi compared to wired to the netgear electric outlet thing.

    any info on the ActionTec router would be helpfu and i think i do have instructions for it somewhere on how to set it up better for gaming which may open the NAT. never bothered yet cus it works without doing that.

    360 recommends using an A router though mostly just to not get interference from the wireless controller, headset etc plus your neighbors g networks and cordless phones all on 2.4ghz and the wireless adapter has A/b/g so i may try to find an a/b/g router at some point like the linksys one as my laptop can use wireless A also.

    no stores have any routers with 802.11a anymore but you can get online.

    any A router recomendations?

    there are a couple compatible bridges by Linksys that have A also. would i be better of with one of those? but i dont want anything bulky by the 360 so just an a/b/g router is prob best.

    btw I use a 67" 1080p DLP tv for my 360 set to 1920x1080 and looks amazing.
     
  22. Magnus72

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    Nah it's not optimized at all, it's a port. Hell I run the game on my desktop rig a E6600, 2GB ram Kingston HyperX 800MHZ and a 8800GTX and the game doesn't run flawless. Sure I have lots of mods installed, however it still crawls down to at lowest 34 fps in heavily wooded areas.

    Now I could of course get the game to run like it does on Xbox on my computer, but who wants the draw distance of objects like 5 m in front of you?

    If have a weak GPU then go with the Xbox version. If you have a good vid card then for sure go with the PC version since it looks twice, thrice as good as the Xbox version with all enhanced mods installed.

    But I can surely say the game doesn't utilize my dual core, just by checking how much usage I have on the two cores. It's an unoptimized port for sure.

    Also it doesn't run flawless on the Xbox either, I see frame drops here and there for sure since I own the game on the Xbox. Also the stuttering can be a pain in the ass if you ride the horse on the Xbox, sometimes you think the game has frozen or something and it doesn't help to clear the cache of the harddrive either.
     
  23. Greg

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    I like the PC version and I've tried both. You get to carry it around!

    Even though it doesn't run flawless, you can modify the PC version more than the 360 one. Plus, PC's will just get better and better as time goes by. The 360 will not. Bottom line is if a game keeps you interested long enough it'll just get graphically better and better.
     
  24. Zellio

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    misinformity gone wild :rolleyes:

    I can get Oblivion to run at 640x480 on a 2500+ and a 9600 pro. On a 3400+ and a x600, I can get it to go go up to 800x600, highest settings, and no bloom or hdr.

    The pc version has mods that make the game run faster (look up low poly grass, it'll speed up your game by 30% ;). You can tweak the game to run faster. You can add mods to make it look prettier, or to add new areas, new missions, new weapons, anything you want.

    The pc by far. And your 6800 will make it look as good or better then Xbox 360 as long as you tweak the dang thing and use low poly grass.

    Of course, that is if your hdtv is only in 720p. If it can display 1080p, then yeah, the Xbox version will look far better (I'm imagining that with tweaking, you could run maybe with qarl texture pack 2, highest settings, 1280x1024 and bloom instead of hdr, because that would kill your system). But the pc version has so much more to bring to the table.

    When I say tweaking, get rid of some tress and grass, and then add qarl texture pack 2. It'll look different, but it will run good on your system, and the texture quality will be better then xbox.

    Chaz is right in that regard, it is poorly coded for pc. But there are things you can do about it.

    Oh wait... is this a regular 6800, or a 6800 ultra? That should be asked, because if it's vanilla 6800... then the graphics will be quite a bit different...
     
  25. iPPi

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    If you have the computer hardware to run Oblivion, the PC version is superior. I've actually heard some people were having problems with the Xbox360 version of the game.

    However, keep in mind that the game is poorly coded. It's not particularly poorly coded for a specific platform, it is just poorly coded. The game will generally crash every once in a while straight to the desktop without any error messages, but you can start the game up again with no problems whatsoever.

    Seriously though, the game is better on the PC; you just need the hardware to run it.
     
  26. buddy1065

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    I love the PC version especially for the mods, however my character's face is not modded. You can judge the quality of my character pics from a Macbook Pro 2.33 C2D which is hardly a gaming laptop, but suits me just fine:

    http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o41/AshleyT99/LaraUmbraClose.jpg

    http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o41/AshleyT99/GlassBowWings.jpg

    http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o41/AshleyT99/SkingradHouse.jpg

    http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o41/AshleyT99/Larayellowdress.jpg

    If you have HDTV though a 360 would be a viable choice. I also agree with iPPi, the game could use better coding, but my crashes in Bootcamp are pretty infrequent so far.
     
  27. Quatre

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    whoa nice pics. does it look that good on 360 even on a 1080p tv? i can't imagine, but if so i need to get that game.

    i have a 67" 1080p tv and have the 360 set to 1920x1080.

    my desktop pc is older now with like an amd athlon 1800+ 1.2 ghz cpu or whatever and some ati radeon 256mb at most vid card i forget.

    i'm upgrding soon to a intel e6600 2.4ghz c2d though my freind told me to get eh e6300 and oc it to 3ghz like a c2d extreme but wont it still only have the 2mb cache while the e6600 will be 4mb cache?

    i miss pc gaming from when my pc was better and i kept up on games nad got copies from my bro etc.

    we both have huge 1080p hdtvs wiht 360 now so its just easier to stick to gaming on that as the online interface with live and controller etc etc. is just better? easier.

    i do have an Asus v6j laptop but its only core duo not c2d and i know the vid card isnt that great so i woldn't attempt a game like this.

    i'm only using a 20" apple cinema display monitor (the older clear and white one) though i guess i could connect new desktop pc to the tv via vga or dvi to hdmi?

    was just going to get the Asus 512mb Silencer geforce card. it jumps triple to quadruple the price to go up to the next step of 640mb le alone 768 or 1024. i figured the 512 would be fine if i'm doing most gaming on the 360

    but i like the cheats and mods better in pc too, its just more time consuming though. I remember i liked being able to put in the fly cheat and fly around in Far Cry and swoop down into the water, was awesome. can't do that on the Far Crys on xbox and 360.

    might eventually get a new monitor and was thinking of just getting the 23" version of one i have but might want to go up to 24". not going to come close to the 67" 1080p though.

    maybe eventually will get a 42" or so 1080p tv in office with computer to connect it to for a larger screen or computer in basement with tv, but my older pc is going down there when get new one and tv down there is 720p still.

    anyway not that i want to get into a length rpg but this game does seem interesting and those pics from last poste r seem amazing.. if it looks anything like that on 360 i may have to get. Plus after getting into the Phantasy Star Universer demo, got me back into rpgs a little though thats more mmo

    But what do you think get on 360 for 67" 1080p? as ppl here seem to agree it will be better on 360 (besides not being able to mod) then pc as long as you use 1080p tv. it is basically the #2 best game currently on xbox 360 so is prob a must have for that console even if you aren't into rpgs. i just overlooked it because i didnt' want to deal with how long they take to play but i guess i can take my time.

    or should i wait and get it for pc with new desktop rig e6600 or e6300 oc'd and Asus 512mb silencer vid cad, 2gb ram, Vista 64 etc. if not and i just get it for 360, i'm sure theres other pc only games that will be great.
     
  28. hollownail

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    If you don't have an HDTV, I wouldn't bother with Oblivion. Granted, games look amazing even on SDTVs, but for Oblivion, I woudl want the best. There is also a lot missing on the 360 version. Like grass... there just doesn't seem to be any grass.
    Your system should run Oblivion okay, but not be able to go nuts. No AA, no grass shadows, no bloom/hdr lighting.
    Bethesda does kind of a poor job with coding, but the port did go pretty well from the PC to 360.