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    Oculus Rift Or NOT!?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by HTWingNut, Jun 9, 2016.

  1. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

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    Well I got a notification that my Oculus Rift will be shipping "soon".

    I'm trying to weigh pros and cons whether to cancel or not. My main PC which is hefty enough to run VR, is in my bedroom, so having full movement like with HTC Vive is not going to happen. I don't need all those cables sitting around to trip on every time I (or my kids) go into my closets. Plus there's really no place to move around, so it'd be primarily stationary entertainment.

    I'm not a huge fan of Oculus's approach on title support though and it is Facebook now which I also have a hard time supporting. Not to mention I will probably need two eventually because my kids will overtake this. :p

    Also with narrow FOV on a regular monitor it can give me motion sickness. So I'm afraid I might get a similar experience with the Rift or any VR headset.

    I don't know anyone near me that has one so don't have the opportunity to try it out, so find that this will be my trial and can resell it if it doesn't work out so well.

    Just asking opinions on this matter.

    Thanks!
     
  2. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    New HTC Vive orders are now shipping within 72h...you will want one just for the controller. VR with just a joypad makes little difference to having no VR at all. ;)

    Vive works perfectly seated as well and has already 250 games/software/stuff on Steam.
    You don't want your purchases to be locked to the Oculus store and only their next HMD.
     
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  3. HTWingNut

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    I think I may cancel anyhow because I'm just not ready or set up for any VR yet. Since my mom moved in with me, if I can convince her to get rid of some furniture, I have a room that would work perfectly for the VIVE. But then my gaming PC would be on the main floor instead of my bedroom, and I can't quite afford another high powered PC at the moment.

    Ugh. VR is more of a pain in the butt than anything. It's an expensive endeavor too.

    However, many of the Steam titles work with Oculus don't they? It's just that Oculus locks out other VR headsets like the Vive from playing Oculus exclusive titles, right?
     
  4. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Whatever you can get on Steam works for both as long as the game supports it and you manually agree to the terms to lift the Rift inbuilt block to use apps from outside sources.
    Whatever you get on the Oculus store only works on Facebook licensed devices.

    For me it's Vive as I like to have the freedom of choice to do with the hardware that I purchase as I see fit.

    You can 'unofficially' (not pirated) play Oculus shop stuff on Vive, but that's another topic....cough...revive...cough.

    Edit: Move that furniture into the garage already! :)

    EDIT 2: http://uploadvr.com/serious-sam-oculus-offered-****ton-money-rift-exclusivity/

    EDIT3: http://uploadvr.com/bethesda-doom-fallout-4-vr/

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  5. James D

    James D Notebook Prophet

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    +1 for ditching oculus rift and buying HTC Vive.

    I heard they promised no DRM when promoting oculus but now they want their store only? pfff.
     
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    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    +1 for the Vive. It's can do everything the Oculus can and more. Plus it's open. Screw Facebook for trying to lock things down and going to town data mining anything with a hole and a heartbeat.
     
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  7. tgipier

    tgipier Notebook Deity

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    Whats is this new vr hype? I just bought a 34inch curved monitor for immersion haha.

    I get severe motion sickness so.. yeah.
     
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    I'm on the hype train too. And the Vive will soon finally be available for testing in a store close-by so I'll give it a try.

    HT since you're on the fence maybe you should cancel and wait until you get the chance to test one first.
     
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  9. killkenny1

    killkenny1 Too weird to live, too rare to die.

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    Everyone is buying VR sets and I'm just sitting here and wishing for a TrakIR...
     
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    Yep, I have a 34 inch curved too. Love it.
     
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    I want one of those too. I think I'd rather have that than VR to be honest. Will work with more games/sims I like and a LOT cheaper. :)
     
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    killkenny1 Too weird to live, too rare to die.

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    And yet you went ahead and bought Oculus Rift, which is like 5 times more expensive than TrackIR.
     
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    I pre-ordered. Haven't bought yet. No money has exchanged hands.
     
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    And canceled. TrackIR ordered. :D
     
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    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I knew you would make a smart choice in the end :vbthumbsup:
     
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    Going to a Vive demo this afternoon :)
    Just a little check, it does work with my ZM since it´s without Optimus, right?
     
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    This... I pondered back and forth, but ended up getting a curved 34" about 6 months ago and love it.

    I'll revisit when generation two HMDs come out, but still not sold.
     
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    Yeah. I kinda wanted to see what all the hype was about really. It just seems too complicated and I get motion sickness easily with narrow FOV games which it sounds like Oculus causes lots of people to feel this way (because of the portrait orientation of the LCD's instead of landscape). Gen 2 should be able to support more pixels, wider FOV, and also GPU performance should be up there to drive it well too.
     
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    ryanev84 Notebook Consultant

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    htwingnut....it really is something else. friend has it

    try or die
     
  23. Kevin

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    I'm waiting for more software.
     
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    Hopefully there will be a place to rent the Rift and Vive around here soon and that will make my choice easier. But $600-$800 is big chunk of change to risk.
     
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    ryanev84 Notebook Consultant

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    if i made 30k a year or more id buy one.....kinda like debating if a car is worth it..
     
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    HTWingNut Potato

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    Uh. I don't follow. Wouldn't you only have to make $800 more a year?
     
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    ryanev84 Notebook Consultant

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    foodshelterclothing are one expense really and if you made 800 more a year it would likely be 65/month. if you can put it on a credit card i guess its worth it...i however have terrible credit
     
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    I love my CV1. Using my 980m spec MSI GT80s drives the rift in Assetto Corsa no worries. For the uninitiated you need to disable SLI as neither AC or Oculus support it. I get a message from the oculus software saying my laptop ISN'T up to spec but I have not had an issue. It is smooth and brilliantly executed. Hope this helps the undecided. A single 980m drives the rift fine in my experience.
     
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    What about saving for retirement?

    Sent from a 128th Legion Stormtrooper 6P
     
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    Overrated. I'll have to work until I'm 80 as it is, so why not enjoy life now?
     
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    I tried the HTC Vive two days ago, my first experience with any of the modern VR-solutions. It was really cool but at the same time I had hoped to be more blown away. A couple of factors contributed though:

    • The small store where I did the testing blasted quite loud music in the background and it overrode the game audio. Particularly in Whale Encounter the immersion was broken.
    • Since it was in a store in a mall there where lots of people passing by. During Job Simulator a kid right next to me kept screaming "PICK THAT UP!" and "THROW THAT AWAY!" Again, immersion broken.
    • The store was small and their designated area was only about 1x1,5m. I could barely move or stretch out my hands before the virtual walls appeared. They probably calibrated it wrong too because trying to pick up things from the ground and I smashed the controllers in the floor before I could reach it. Also a physical concrete pillar was in the way of the power outlet in Job Simulator. Immersion.
    • The guy helping me was a standin for the regular and didn´t know how to adjust stuff. In the end I arbitrarily adjusted only the pupil distance and hoped for the best. Not the best image at times but even with my glasses it was fairly comfortable.
    • I only had a couple of minutes each on Whale Encounter, Job Simulator and Budget Cuts. Not much to go by.
    All this said it still was very cool, especially Budget Cuts, and I recommend people to try it if they can. I didn´t throw myself on the Buy-button but I´m still seriously considering it.
     
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    I'm skipping VR. I'm not actually interested in an experience which completely blocks out everything around you. I'm waiting for augmented reality. I wear corrective lenses already - start making tech smaller and build it into my glasses!
     
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    Vive user here, this thing rocks! The cool part is that it is very intuitive even for people that rarely, or never, played video games. I took it to my work office too, and all my coworkers and boss had a blast playing games.

    Right now there is very limited software so most users won't get much worth out of it, but it is definitely something else.

    As said, it is important to have proper space and a good pair of headphones to really be immersed in the world. People yelling, worrying about bumping into stuff because it was not properly set, small play areas, pets, many things can hurt the experience if not properly set, but it's really not that hard to set either.

    I can't recommend it right now due to the lack of staying software but I have high hopes for this tech. (I have many games but aside from puzzle/spooky/arcadey shooting, there is not much yet).

    Also, we will really benefit with laptops using Pascal when it hits, provided we get near GTX 1070 level of performance. Since SLI is a no go right now, single GPU performance is a must. 980m is okay but I can definitely see games requiring way more performance soon, since we need constant synced 90fps after all.

    Even with seated experiences, it's pretty fun to just be inside the game.
     
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