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    Oh, woefully inadequite is me...

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Cataclysm, Sep 5, 2007.

  1. Cataclysm

    Cataclysm Notebook Geek

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    *sigh*...

    When you buy a laptop, do your homework. I didn't. I ended up buying an overpriced, underspeced Dell.

    I like to play games, but really not many FPSs are able to keep me interested. I remember one though, one that stands out as a truley epic game. That game was Far Cry. As I was shopping yesterday I noticed that PCGamer has an exclusive on Far Cry 2... Which, if its anything like the first, will have me hooked, unable to leave my computer until I beat it. Twice.

    The problem is my ****ty computer. I wanted a laptop ASAP, and went out and bought one. It was significantly more powerful than my old desktop and I enjoyed it for many months, until recently. When I bought Battlefield 2142 and found that the best I could do was 30-40 frames on all low except textures on high and geometry on medium I came to know that horrible, gut-wrenching feeling of disappointment you get when you realize your $1000 were wasted.

    It can barely handle BF2142, a game almost 1 year old now, and probably won't even be able to run my beloved Far Cry 2 at even low setting at a playable rate. This pisses me off to no end, and I can't buy a new computer for 2 years now (Self-imposed college student spending limit, dontcha know?)

    I ask, you, gaming masters, will my pathetic x1400 be able to handle Far Cry 2? The system requirements arent out yet, but it should be lower than those of BioShock (I hope)

    TL;DR: I came here to ask if my x1400 graphics card will be able to run games coming out this fall, even at all low setting at playable rates.
     
  2. unknown555525

    unknown555525 rawr

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    :\ simply put... nope!

    You can run it... but on all minimum, I'm assuming it's going to have a minimum requirement of a pixel shader v3, so atleast you can run it, albet min settings and probebly still at less than 5fps..
     
  3. Cataclysm

    Cataclysm Notebook Geek

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    Yay. I hate everything.
     
  4. unknown555525

    unknown555525 rawr

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    :mad2: well, sorry... It's too late to return it?
     
  5. Cataclysm

    Cataclysm Notebook Geek

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    Yea, i got it 6 months ago, not foreseeing what great things lay in the furture
     
  6. blackbird

    blackbird Notebook Deity

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    I know what that feels like.

    When I first bought my gameboy advance, the next day the gameboy advance SP came out. I know its not the same thing but I was a little kid then, and I felt like ****.

    Only thing you can do is either comfort yourself anyway, either think of the games you can run, or sell the laptop somehow and save up for a new one
     
  7. joebusby

    joebusby Notebook Consultant

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    Or stop playing games and move onto another part of your life. It could be a bonus?
     
  8. Jeff

    Jeff Notebook Retard

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    it could save you socially, but whats the fun in that :p

    i say try sell it and see how much cash you can raise to go towards a new one.
     
  9. adinu

    adinu I pwn teh n00bs.

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    Yes technically you didn't do your homework. You bought a low end card and expected it to run new games/ future.
     
  10. tangent

    tangent Notebook Evangelist

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    uhhh, 1000 bucks for that system isn't overpriced in the least... Thats pretty much the best you could have gotten at the time for the price, if you wanted more you should have payed more, fair and simple. you wern't riped off by dell, you just didn't know what you were buying, either way the fact that you have a laptop that can play those games is pretty good, most laptops have integrated cards anyway. I dont know where you get off saying its was overpriced and underspeced, great price and thats the best graphics card that was available, to get one with a 1600 or 7600 it would have been at least 300 more for a basic one, 500 more for one with a solid processor harddrive and 2 gigs of ram.
     
  11. foosa123

    foosa123 adsfjldsajflkajsdfa

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    well like you, i have an x1400 in my laptop and im pretty satisfied with it though myself. i am quite satisfied at its gaming performance cause i didnt buy it for gaming purposes, but it still plays the games i play RIGHT NOW (CS:S, LOTR:BMFE2, CoH) very smoothly. but now that upcoming games are gaining my interest, i am deciding to purchase desktop computer parts and build a pc myself, which is really quite cheap these days. maybe you too should look into doing that. otherwise, an alternative to gaming on pc is console gaming. well, good luck man.
     
  12. SymphonyX

    SymphonyX Notebook Evangelist

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    He could have bought an ASUS F3 or a similar laptop with a mid-range GPU like the Geforce Go 7600 or the Mobility Radeon X1600 for $1000. I'm sure it won't really cost around $300 more. Even Dell lets you configure a Vostro for $1400+ with a Geforce 8600M GT after some rebates and discounts.

    Wait... I think we should stop. It might be hurting him just thinking about the "WHAT IFs" we suggested. O_O" *sweat*

    @ foosa123

    You may be satisfied with it, but I think he was expecting the X1400 to play Crysis which is something apparently too much for the GPU to handle. Each one to his own. And yeah, building your own gaming PC is way cheaper. $1500 should be enough for decent C2D E6600, a 640 MB Geforce 8800 GTS setup with the usual refinements like 4 GB of OCZ low-latency RAM, 500 GB hard drive, 22" WSXGA+ monitor, etc.
     
  13. Cataclysm

    Cataclysm Notebook Geek

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    It was $1200, after a $350 coupon.

    Goodness, no. I never expected it to run Crysis, or any game of that caliber on even low settings. I did, however, expect it to play BF2142, a game that was then 6 months old at medium/high rather than low with one slider on high. I expected it to run Guild Wars (Over a year old at the time of purchase) on maxed settings and never drop below 25 frames per second. I got a good deal on it so I shouldn't complain too much, but I'll be damned if it isn't disappointing.

    I ordered a notebook cooler today. I'm thinking overclock.
     
  14. TheArnski

    TheArnski Notebook Evangelist

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    When I bought my new laptop, I was expecting it to run WoW at med-high settings and BF2 at med-high setting as well. I was disappointed when I realized that they couldn't run at those settings and that this laptop ran them just the same as my old Acer laptop, which had lower specs than on this laptop.

    I saw it as a good thing, though, because I need to really focus on college this time around (trying to enter an athletic training program next spring) and with my girlfriend having moved for nursing school, I'll need to have my screen ready for webcam.
     
  15. Jeff

    Jeff Notebook Retard

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    you got a laptop with integrated graphics and expected to run bf2 at medium high? more fool you for not doing thorough research.
     
  16. TheArnski

    TheArnski Notebook Evangelist

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    Exacalacatakalootly....but i'm kinda glad it worked out that way...now I don't raid, quest, farm mats, bg, or do any of that WoW stuff...saving me my sanity and $15...and as for BF2, I'm glad I won't be getting into a new game that I'll be playing instead of doing more important things...being that "fool" you speak of actually worked wonders for me...thanks though Jeff!
     
  17. Jeff

    Jeff Notebook Retard

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    speaking of wow. i played before i finished high school, then stopped for my hsc (higher school certificate - one of the hardest and most competitive end of school tests in the world) and i vowed never to go back. i highly recomend that no one starts playing and that if you do play, stop, get a life and game casually.

    anyway, enough of my wow rant. i got an asus g1 for work :p yes a gaming laptop for work. i don't play any games at work other than minesweeper/hearts, but i take it to uni and ocasionally play games there. i have no trouble restricting my game time to study and do assessments, but i guess that it is quite individual.

    another thing what is that "word", and i use the term loosely, that i bolded?
     
  18. TheArnski

    TheArnski Notebook Evangelist

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    This man speaks the truth! To those who have no problem WoWing, keep at it!! But if you are contemplating getting into it, really take into consideration what this man has said. I played it wayyy tooo much in the past and it cost me a lot, school-wise, relationship-wise, and social life-wise. I can see clearly now, the WoW is gone :D :D :D

    LOL...I have no idea how I picked it up, but it's one of the ways I say "exactly"...
     
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    boonkauc Notebook Guru

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    Uh...you can get a vostro with an 8600m GT for $699, I'm not sure what you've been smoking.
     
  20. Cataclysm

    Cataclysm Notebook Geek

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    Well I decided to do a little overclocking. With winter setting in and my new cooler I can crack a window and let my Zalman blow some chilly air into it.

    I found out ATi Tools isn't meant for laptops after I installed it and it told my card's clock speeds were 1,439MHz and 1,309MHz... I need something that will OC my X1400 MOBILITY. Any ideas?
     
  21. link1313

    link1313 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Powerstrip works very well, I'm using that right now.

    About your card and next-gen games you will have to play at low resolutions/settings. That being said I was moderately surprised I could even get Unreal Engine 3 (most popular engine around) to work and work well (meaning you can buy/play UT, Bioshock, MoH:AA, pretty much any console-port, etc).

    My GPU has served me well for 1.5 years but honestly anything coming out from now on that looks good graphically your looking at 800x600 / low settings.

    I posted bioshock/moh:aa in the x1400 official screenshot thread if you want to refer to that (just search for it).
     
  22. Brandinho

    Brandinho Notebook Consultant

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    That's actually a good idea to follow. I'm in college now, so gaming isin't really important to me anymore. However, I would like to play something every now and then on a PC, or perhaps convenient hand-held games. Yet, I don't have a gaming laptop, and I don't have any hand-held devices. Do what you think is right. You wanna play Far Cry 2? Then you best save up for a new lappy, and perhaps try selling the one you own. I'll admit, Far Cry 2 does look awesome, but it's difficult to say what specs the game has at this point of development. Your best bet is to get a lappy with an 8600GT 512mb. That card could probably handle the game at medium settings. Maybe. We still don't know yet. Or you could always get a nice desktop and customize the hell out of it. Quad Core Anyone? How bout Dual 8800GTXs? Sounds good to me.
     
  23. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    If you're looking for casual gaming, try a console, it's a heck of a lot cheaper, and you'll probably make some friends while you're at it.
     
  24. Cataclysm

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    Powerstrip isnt working for me. It cant detect my clock speeds...