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    Original Crysis is still AMAZING

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by daveh98, Aug 31, 2013.

  1. daveh98

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    Gosh this game is just so much fun. The graphics are still in the Top Tier of aesthetics yet the gameplay and open sandbox is so much better than the other two. I still can play Crysis from 2007 so many times and approach the game from so many different angles. It's just crazy to think that even 7 years later, it's still so beautiful and STILL so taxing on even very powerful systems. Part of it definitely is poor coding, but part of it is the physics and intricacies of the engine at work. I love this game.

    Does anyone use any of the mods for it? I have always tried some but then found myself uninstalling them, reinstalling the game and using the vanilla version. Cheers to Crysis 7 years later in 2013. Amazing.
     
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    Gotta love how poorly optimized games = Benchmarkables

    Never played any crysis game but seems like the original was the best :p
     
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    You didn't played Crysis games? Oh man, you missed so much...
     
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    I love the graphics in the orginal Crysis. Everything had so much detail, even the pebbles in the ground. I also loved the sand box. Start at point A, OK, but you could just swim around the island and start at the opposite point. And the bad guys didn't keep respawning. And on the hardest difficulty the bad guys talked in Korean. And no time limit meant you could stealth it or you could Rambo it, or a combo, or snipe from a distance, etc.

    And... j/k

    This is one of my favorite games I have ever played. I liked the other Crysis, but they were more linear than the first.

    OK, time to chop down some trees.
     
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    Crysis is not a sandbox. It's a bunch of linear paths connecting repetitive battle arenas.
     
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    I love the original Crysis 1, but I got stuck in the VTOL scene because the Aliens keep shooting me down. I remember many gaming systems and video cards being benchmarked against Crysis 1, but my i7 920 Geforce 260 OC 216 video card was good enough to play it. That was my Nov 2008 gaming rig. I loved how you can save anywhere anytime, and this was RUINED by stupid Crysis 2, which I never got far on. I finished Crysis Warhead, though.

    When I build a new summer 2014 gaming rig or get a new laptop by then Crysis 1 will be a benchmark.
     
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    I disagree. If you needed to attack a village, you could follow the linear path from where you were before. Or you could circle around the village. One of my favorite tricks was to approach the front of the village, fire my machine gun to get them looking towards the front, then quickly circle around the back. The enemy would still be looking towards the front, and now away from me.

    And if you ever looked at the level editor, it sure looked like a sandbox to me. You set initial positions for the guys, but they would react to sight and sounds. You set event areas around different spots, etc. It seemed clear to me from the editor that the game was not linear. The plot was linear, but not the game play outside. The final part was linear though, but not the huge first part that takes place outside.

    Now Crysis 2 was very linear, and Crysis 3 was somewhat linear also.

    Here is what Gamespot said about the orginal - "... The first half is where Crysis makes its mark. The island is thick with foliage and dotted with outposts, where rickety structures and military depots might hide ammo and weapons. The environments are huge by shooter standards, allowing you multiple methods of approach. You could try a direct route, hopping into one of the game's many vehicles and zooming forth to unleash gunfire from the top-mounted turret. Or you could be surreptitious and snipe your North Korean foes one by one. However you proceed, you rely on your nanosuit to support your style. Thanks to this fine bit of technology, you can leap great heights, sprint at high speed, improve your armor, and cloak yourself. On the PC, you must activate these abilities separately. The console version takes a cue from Crysis 2 by smartly integrating speed and strength modes into its running and jumping mechanics. The nanosuit abilities and spacious levels lead to impressive flexibility, which is further enhanced by weapon mods. You can equip silencers, assault scopes, flashlights, and even special ammo, which allows you to further specialize your skills as you make your way from one objective to the next. ..."
     
  8. King of Interns

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    Yup crysis 1 was the best. FC3 is pretty much the only game since that has built on what made that game great and done it well.
     
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    A true sandbox is Far Cry 3, Just Cause 2, GTA, etc.
     
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    Isn't Far Cry 2 the same as well? I never played Crysis, but all the descriptions make it sound exactly like Far Cry 2.
     
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    After hearing Crysis 3 only has like 3 hours of gameplay, i though i didn't miss much.
     
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    Far cry 2 was ok. Problem is the enemies kept respawning at checkpoints you already cleared out and there was no way to skip travel.

    Far cry 3 ironed out these issues and made an even better looking game in a similar jungle environment to Crysis.
     
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    I have played Crysis 1 and 1.1 and Crysis 2, and am currently playing Crysis 3, I prefer to fight the Seth over Human soldiers so i prefer Crysis 2

    John.
     
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    Crysis 1 was fun and the mods were great. Crysis was also a sandbox game. Just because you don't have random quests or things to do like in Saints Row or GTA doesn't mean Crysis isn't Sandbox. You can spend your entire time not doing the missions and just exploring the island and throwing crap at the enemy. Experiement to see what the physics engine can do etc. GTA and Saints Row for the storyline are as linear as any other game. So is Skyrim for example, the worst, linear and short main quest line for any AAA sandbox game IMO.
     
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    Lol, you are too much. Just too much.

    Every Zymphad post ever: "let me tell you why every game you've ever liked is terrible"
     
  16. daveh98

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    I played Far Cry years ago. I skipped FC2 and also FC3. Is it a game I should pick up? It looked very "cartoony" to me but I haven't really looked into the game much. Thoughts?
     
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    FC2 is probably skippable. FC3 is very similar but much better.
     
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    Far Cry 1 was scarry :D i mean i had the game difficulty on hard and when those little jumpy monsters were jumping on you can taking entire health with 1 or 2 blows..

    I just recently played Crysis 1 and its awesome, however on last level i faced alot of stuttering, maybe its not properly optimized?
     
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    The original Crysis (and Warhead) and Far Cry are still my favorites of their respective series. The first Far Cry was amazing and one of my fondest memories of PC gaming to date. 2004 was a huge release year for PC titles with UT2004, Doom 3, HL2, CS:S, and WoW all coming out within the calendar year and Far Cry topped them all in my book.
     
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    The first Farcry was good. But I got tired of Farcry 2, as mentioned you have to keep clearing out enemies at checkpoints. They just respawn over and over. It got tedious. The game has a great enviroment, and lots of potential. But for me, the respawning checkpoints ruined it. I haven't gotten to Farcry 3, as I have been without a gaming computer for over two years now.
     
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    FC3 takes the best aspects of FC2 and gets rid of all the stupid stuff.
     
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    It's definitely an awesome game. My favorite game as a matter of fact. I recommend Blackfire's Mod. It's fairly recent (I belive it's from March, '13). It runs realy great on ultra on a 780M. Also, be sure to set it on highest difficulty. The thing I like the most about this game is that I feel like a "super soldier". It's just too damn awesome!

    For the one's playing Crysis 2, be sure to install Blackfire's Mod 2 and Maldo's HD Texture Pack.


    But seriously people, install Blackfire's Mod for both C1 and C2. It grealty enhances the (look and gameplay of) the game with 0% FPS loss (maybe 1 frame).

    Blackfire's Mod for C1: http://www.moddb.com/mods/blackfires-mod-ultimate
    Blackfire's Mod for C2: http://www.moddb.com/mods/blackfires-mod-2
     
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    Someone should make a thread called "Original Far Cry is still AMAZING." :D

    Seriously, there wouldn't be Crysis without Far Cry. Talk about great first impressions...Far Cry was the game that kind of shocked the world, too bad Doom 3 and HL2 came out later in the year and overshadowed an arguably superior game. The gorgeous visuals and draw distance were unmatched until Oblivion and then Crysis and it was the system-crusher of its day. It was the first to introduce the freedom and nonlinear gameplay that was refined and enhanced (and sometimes butchered) in later Crytek titles.

    True, the storyline got progressively more corny as you played through the game and there were some weird quirks, but for the sheer impact at its time of release and its lasting influence I'd have to side with originality and innovation and say Far Cry is the best game in the series, if not the best Crytek game period. Not to mention it's just a bloody fun game, and the enemy AI was extremely intelligent and difficult to the point of being unfair, especially at the higher difficulty settings. It made stealthing around pretty frustrating at times because one fart and they'd be on to you like a pack of hyenas, but I found the challenge made the game more engrossing and addictive. Far Cry 3 was just way too easy in comparison, even at Master Difficulty.
     
  26. daveh98

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    I agree, Far Cry actually was really what brought me back to PC gaming in 2004. It was leagues ahead of anything out and it's graphics were jaw dropping. And it sure was scary as heck when the game changed 1/2 way through! WOW. Great. game. How are the graphics of FC3? Should I drop the 40 bucks for it on Steam or are there cheaper places to get it? Or are there any people that can gift it to me through steam if they got an extra during the steam sale (long shot I know). The graphics look a bit cartoony but maybe I need to play it?

    Regarding Crysis I have actually not tried that previously mentioned MOD. I am wary of trying them out as I usually uninstall them but maybe I will give this one a look. Thanks for the heads up :)

    I downloaded the mod for Crysis 1, installed it in my steamapps/crysis folder and loaded up the game. I went to "mods" in game and saw the mod ready to load. I click load and it asks me to restart before the mod can be used. I restart but then don't see the mod loaded (the name of it in the bottom right corner). What do I need to do to get this running?!
     
  27. TR2N

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    Graphically crysis 3 i love the most. Crysis 1 is enormous and feels like far cry 3. Both are great!
     
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    Sandbox is ability to explore and wander wherever you want and take on different challenges however you want to. In Crysis you had to do everything linearly. There was no real exploring, you were forced down a path, just within a wider corridor than you might traditionally see. Although I do have to say I enjoyed Crysis 1 and Warhead greatly. Really didn't care for 2 or 3. They seem to have lost the spirit of the original game. I really liked how Crysis and Warhead were two simultaneous stories. It would have been great to have a third and have the previous two game's actions result in a significant plot shift that affected the player. Instead we just got some crappy alien invasion cookie cutter story. Might as well thrown Master Chief in the mix you wouldn't know the difference.
     
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    It's recommended you use the .exe that came with mod instead of loading it manualy. Otherwise I realy don't have a clue honestly, since I have never had any problems with it. You can (try to) contact to mod-author though.
     
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    I don't know why some people think Crysis 1 was linear. Seriously go back and play it again and see if you can go anywhere. Maybe when you played it the first time you just played it linear.

    Maybe you will believe this source.

    As Cevat Yerli said:

    “We felt a sandbox game that requires a lot of freedom like Crysis 1 was perceived as something of an elite gamer kind of thing. Other games that were more commercially successful than Crysis as a formula were more handholding. They were entirely handholding experiences. We tried to bring in this choreographed sandbox formula to the table, which is mixing the volume of a sandbox from Crysis 2 with some of the linearity you would see – some of it only, like 10 per cent only – in some of the more successful IPs out there. We got critiques from others. Newbies liked it more than the previous one. It was a mixed opinion.”

    And if you don't know who he is, then you don't know Crysis.

    The official game editor was called "sandbox".

    GameSpot awarded Crysis "Best Shooter" in its "Best of 2007" awards, saying that "It was this open-ended, emergent gameplay--the ability to let us tackle our challenges in whatever way we wished." - Copied text from Wikipedia.

    I could find simular text in most of the reviews. The first half of the game was a huge sandbox. The objectives might have been linear, but you could come at them from 360 degrees. The second half of the game was linear.

    If you want to call Crysis 1 linear, please provide a source.
     
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    I did uninstall crysis and reinstalled the mod and it is working pretty good so far. I like how you can quickly switch the time of day/color/shadows on the fly. It definitely does have a different look; a bit more dynamic. Nothing drastic. Anyone else recommend a good mod for the game to go along side this one?
     
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    Glad to hear. I personaly never use any other mods. However, you can check the moddb page of Crysis here:

    Crysis Mods - Mod DB

    EDIT

    This one seems interesting (however I wonder if it's compatible with Blackfire's Mod): http://www.moddb.com/mods/crysis-expanded-mod-v02-newgen-graphics
     
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    I'm thinking maybe the only other mod I will try is the Rygel High res textures. It's quite a large file but is supposed to increase the textures which can look a bit flat. However this blackfire mod is near perfect. I am running better FPS than when I was on Very High. It really brings some cool shadows and lighting which is a bit more like Crysis 3. Crysis Vanilla is a bit drab at times. I like the look of both. Fortunately you can play both versions without the files being overridden.

    also, any mod that effects TOD will be incompatible with Blackfire as it will override the flowchart. I'm sticking with Blackfire as it has a lot of options that are well binded to the keys.
     
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    Definitely agree with that. If you play Crysis 2 (I wonder who doesn't after the humble bundle), you should definitely check out his mod for C2 with Maldo's HD Texture Pack.
     
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    is there a mod that turns Crysis into an open-world game with side missions?
     
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    I am sorry to say but, no.
     
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    Hahaha 3 hours of gameplay might be a bit exaggerating.

    But I agree Crysis 1 "sandboxy" is nice to play. The sequels proved that graphics is not everyhing
    I don't really like open wide world like Elder Scroll series but Cryssi 1 was a nice mix. Unfortunately I don't really like to play a game more than once, except maybe if it has a different route like a visual novel, lol
     
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    crysis imo is a bit over-rated
     
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    I can understand if you don't like Crysis. But Crysis bought many new visual features never before seen. Pretty much every review gave it high marks, very high marks.

    Personally, I find Starcraft and Minecraft to be over rated. To each thier own.

    I find it amazing that Crysis still looks good to this day. I wish more games overed modes that exceeded what any computer could do. Of course still offering modes that 90% of computer can play. I find many games could still be fun if the graphics didn't look so dated.
     
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    The problem is if you make a game with graphics that exceed the specs of most user's hardware then you limit your sales. And by the time users do upgrade, and finally buy the game, their profit on the game is like $1. Although I do like that Crysis 1 was pretty scalable, so lower hardware could play it just fine. Even after going back to play the game when I had a more beefy system, even though visually it looked better, that wore off after like 10 minutes of gameplay and it was still the same old game.
     
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    I take the opposite view HTWingNut. I loved the game much more when I could max it. I am replaying now with this Blackfire Mod. I would say it looks nearly as good as Crysis3 but much more open world with all colorful environments. It's a neat take on the game with great manipulations in lighting at low/no cost to performance. I'm a huge shooter nut but mostly online competitive shooters like CS. Crysis is the one series I keep playing over and over. My only real disappointment was Crysis 2 with knowing how deliberate some of their poor optimizations are. I mean DX11 added handles to road blocks? Lame. Adding water under a level that didn't have water to KILL performance; complete lack of quality oversee or deliberate subversive way to force people to upgrade to see tessellated roadblock handles...

    Crysis 1 and Warhead are just awesome examples of semi-linear gaming experiences that can be played a variety of different ways.
     
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    I have to agree with daveh98 on this one. Having a game with futuristic system requirements yet is scaleable to lower-end hardware is a good thing. It increases replay value for when you upgrade your rig down the road. These kinds of games are like fine wine: They get better as they age. I see new things and have new experiences that I missed during the first playthrough. When I first played Far Cry, Half-Life 2, and Doom 3 I had a crappy GeForce FX 5200. But a few years later when I had an 8800 GT I dug them back out and played them again at max settings and it was just so much more enjoyable. Unfortunately, we haven't had a game like this since the original Crysis, but from the sound of it Star Citizen will demolish current PC's and that's a good thing. A game that gets better over time is never a bad thing.

    Crysis is one of the most replayable games, period, because of the sheer number of fantastic mods and free content readily available for it. Multiplayer games see players leave and servers shut down but one can always fire up Crysis and, say, play through a mod that he couldn't experience in its full glory before.
     
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    ^Off-topic, but I cannot wait to play Star Citizen. And you're right, it looks like it'll be the next PC destroyer. Ah good old Cryengine, you never fail at that one particular thing.
     
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    How do you mod Crysis (or any game really) ? Does modding always lower FPS at same graphic setting?
     
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    Depends on what kind of mods you install, although I think that kinda speaks for itself. Gameplay enhancing mods (almost 99% of the time) won't lower your FPS, graphic mods however, can cut them in half (ENB's for example).
     
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    Most of the mods will be self-extracting or give you specific places to extract and execute to play the game. In this instance, you install the Blackfire mod and just launch the game using the desktop icon that the mod automatically creates. It's a mod that GREATLY enhances the graphics to look more realistic by manipulating lighting. It impacts performance but only by a few FPS.