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    Overall benchmarking performance

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by ajnindlo, Dec 1, 2013.

  1. ajnindlo

    ajnindlo Notebook Deity

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    I am looking for benchmark suggestions. I just ordered a new gaming laptop. I want to benchmark it when it is new, but also benchmark it every six months to a year to see if it is slowing down. So it would be nice if the benchmark kept track of previous runs, if not I can just screen shot though. Also it would be nice to find one good benchmark that will do cpu, gpu, hdd, sdd, and ram. Also it would be nice if it could track cpu and gpu temps, so I can see if performance is the same but temps increase after a year. Also, for hdd and sdd, it would be nice if it could check performance, but also speed for accessing old files, so it can detect things like fragmenting, or issues from GC.

    I know I am asking for a lot. So what are the best options and suggestions.

    Thanks.
     
  2. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    dont think you will find all of that in one package.

    futuremark benchmarks. all in my signature below.
    monitoring tools all in sig below.
    ram tools all in sig below
    kitchen sink not in my sig below (yet).
     
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  3. fatboyslimerr

    fatboyslimerr Alienware M15x Fanatic

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    I use 3d Mark 11 for GPU, still as I am more familiar with those scores, and PC Mark 7 to compare everything else.
     
  4. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    Overall:

    SiSoftware Sandra

    NovaBench

    PCMark 7

    PCMark 8

    (don't read too much into the final score, PCMark is notoriously SSD-friendly)

    GPU:

    Unigine Heaven (more intensive) & Valley (less intensive)

    Any built-in game benchmarks, e.g. Metro 2033/LL, Batman: AO, CoH2, BioShock Infinite, Hitman: Absolution, etc.

    (stay away from FurMark and similar, e.g. MSI Kombustor and OCCT)

    GPU & CPU:

    3DMark 11

    3DMark (2013)

    Catzilla

    Cinebench (CPU & OpenGL, more of a CGI than gaming test)

    CPU & RAM:

    Super PI (1M for short test, 32M for long test)

    Prime95

    Storage:

    HD Tune

    AS SSD Benchmark

    ATTO Disk Benchmark



    Some tests can save scores locally or online. Or you can screenshot them.

    Some include CPU and GPU temperature monitoring. Or you can use your own monitoring software, e.g. HWiNFO64, HWMonitor, ThrotteStop, GPU-Z, etc., and reset between tests.
     
  5. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    Just curious, what are the make and specs of your new laptop again?
     
  6. ajnindlo

    ajnindlo Notebook Deity

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    The Sager NP8275-S with Intel i7-4800, Nvidia 780M, 16GB ram, SSD unknown as I haven't ordered yet, HDD 1TB 7200RPM.

    I was hoping to get it down to one or two benchmarks to save space. And mostly I care about comparative performance on this laptop over time.
     
  7. baii

    baii Sone

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    Passmark? I believe it benches everything and it should be kind of comprehensive. (dont quote me on that ) ~~
     
  8. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    You could install the benchmarks on your HDD if you really need to save space, although I don't see the need since all the ones I listed added together probably take up less than 2GB. I just gave a whole bunch so you'd have more choices. For example, you could pick one from each category for a total of five that will cover all your bases.

    There's a reason sites like AnandTech and Tom's Hardware don't run just one test like PCMark when reviewing systems. Sandra and NovaBench are too broad, PCMark is too biased toward SSD's, 3DMark Physics Scores have too much deviation compared to Super PI, Unigine is not affected by the CPU at all...

    My point is, I don't believe there exists one solution that can provide enough in-depth and accurate benchmarks and performance analysis for all your system components that will allow you to be able to gauge small changes in performance over time due to internal and external factors such as changes in drivers and software, system bloat, thermals, wear-and-tear, etc. That is what you're looking for, right?

    Same qualms I have for other jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none benchmarking suites such as PCMark and Sandra, along with the fact that very few enthusiasts and review sites use it, so it will be hard to compare results (the PassMark online database has some serious issues and is not accurate at all). I've used PassMark briefly in the past and I really can't recommend it. I'm going to be blunt: It looked and felt like an outdated amateur project. The UI was confusing as hell and because the hardware requirements are so low, the tests themselves leave a lot be desired for the modern PC enthusiast. The GPU tests look worse than 3DMark2001, the CPU tests don't even have support for the latest instruction sets last I checked, and the storage tests don't even look like they were designed with SSD's in mind. Plus it is only a 30-day trial. You'll get the same tepid response if you mention PassMark on an enthusiasts' forum like Overclock.net.
     
  9. baii

    baii Sone

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    Idk, not a big fan of benchmarking but passmark cpu is pretty ok for comparing general cpu performance afaik.
     
  10. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    Well if you're talking about the results on their website, those numbers are a joke.
     
  11. ajnindlo

    ajnindlo Notebook Deity

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    Yes, that is the goal. Space is a concern, as well as ease of use. Running a bunch of benchmarks just makes it more complicated. But if that really is the only way to do it, then so be it. I have run benchmarks before, but this is the first time I have tried to use them to guage system performance as it ages, as well as driver effects, updates, and the other things you mentioned.
     
  12. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    Well since we've established that there is probably no all-in-one benchmarking solution which fits your needs, it's up to you to pick and choose which ones you want from the extensive list that's already been been provided in this thread. I'm not you and I won't pretend to know what you want, whether you plan to do a lot of overclocking and benchmarking as hobbies or just stick to the annual or semiannual system checkup. You seem to aready have some experience so it shouldn't be a tough decision, but feel free to keep asking questions and we'll do our best to answer them.
     
  13. ajnindlo

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    Thanks. I hadn't heard of a good all in one benchmark. But I thought it doesn't hurt to ask. I will pick and choose and then put them all in one sub-folder so I remember which ones I ran before. Thanks for the help.
     
  14. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    Just throwing this out there, but back when I was less diligent about keeping detritus off my PC, I used to reformat every 6 months. If your PC has a tendency to get bogged down over time, there is always the nuclear option, not that I particularly recommend it.
     
  15. Marecki_clf

    Marecki_clf Homo laptopicus

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    Sisoft Sandra will benchmark everything. Trouble is - it's not very spectacular - GPU benchmark, for instance, will display no graphics at all. You will only see numbers and charts after the benchmark is finished. Another trouble with Sandra is that it gets updated regularly and results from one version are not really comparable with ones from the updated version. It's a good piece of software, but not very consistent.
     
  16. Ajfountains

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    Depending on where you are ordering from, you may be able to request that it be benchmarked and have the results put in a folder or printed. Some resellers offer this as an upgrade, usually about the same cost as upgrading to a different thermal compound. You'll still have to pick and choose what to run later on, but it gives you a nice starting point. It can be considered a useless thing to spend money on, since you can do it yourself, but it does have the benefit of having your system stressed while it is in the hands of the reseller.
     
  17. ajnindlo

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    I do know people that do this. But personally I like the challange of figuring out exactly what is bogging down the machine. Besides, I used to be a laptop technical support call manager, and I hated it when techs would "solve" problems by telling to customer to just reinstall Windows. So this is kind of a pet peeve, as well as personal pride area. So far I have never had to reinstall Windows to fix a software problem.
     
  18. ajnindlo

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    I ordered a Sager NP8275-S from LPC Digital. Hmm, the additional stress test is an idea. Although I saw one unit in here fail even after it went through a specific stress test from a reseller. Shipping may be the ultimate stress test.
     
  19. ajnindlo

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    It is an idea. No matter the benchmark, I intend to keep it on my drive so there are no version concerns.