Overclocked GeForce 9600M GT = 9700M GT?

Hello, this is my first time posting here and I’m hoping that this community can answer a question I have and hopefully many more in the future.

I getting my first laptop ever here soon and I’m most likely going to get the new HP dv5t. I’m into gaming, however I don’t not want to lung around a thick huge notebook that gets around an hour or so of battery life. The dv5t has very good CPU options and port connectivity, along with being a good medium size notebook that I will be able to carry with me easily. It comes with a GeForce 9600M GT with 512MB, which I’m sure is going to outperform my desktops 256MB 6800 GT. However something recently caught my eye.

Nvidia just released the 9700M GT, which according to notebookcheck.net is simply an over clocked 9600M GT. I’ve done my research and I have concluded that this is true, with the core speed 25 MHz faster and the shaders 300 MHz faster than the 9600M GT. A good significant boost of power and the benchmarkings show this. My question is if I do get the HP, would it be possible to safely over clock it to 9700M GT specs. I’ve never OC’ed anything before, so even if it is safe I’ll have to find some kind of guide to do this.

I’m sorry if this is a mega noob question, so thanks for bearing with me. I’d like to squeeze every ounce of power I can get out of a midsize notebook video card.

(I’m basing this info of the fact the GeForce 9600M GT has a 600 MHz core and 1250 MHz shader clock, I have seen many other types of specs posted about this card so I’m somewhat confused.)

 

well, the overclocking would void ur waranty. and there should be overclocking guide somewhere.

 

would it? heaps of people overclock their GPUs

 

Yes... if you tried to send in your GPU they would be able to tell by the heat signatures that you OC and they wouldn't help you out...

So really, unless you don't plan on every having a warranty or getting your GPU, CPU, etc. replaced by the manufacturer, go right ahead and OC.

 

heat signatures? are we talking about a jet engine here? unless the hardware was OC'ed by ridiculous amount and fired, which can only be done via BIOS level OC'ing, manufactures can't tell if you done OC'ed or not.

 

Yeah I wasn’t planning on paying up $200+ on a good warranty anyways, still it would be nice to have something to fall back on if I fry the thing I don’t know if this is true or not, but I did hear from many sources (People, reviews on older HPs) that HP notebooks don’t have the best cooling systems or great ventilation, so they run kind of hot a lot. If that’s true, that wouldn’t be the best ideal overclocking conditions, or making the thing run ever hotter making the GPU run faster during normal use. Can anyone back that rumor up?

 

Unless it has GDDR3 like the 9700m GT and equal cooling it won't be able to overclock to the same levels. I believe the 9600m GT in the DV5T is DDR2.

Since the only 9700m GT I've heard of is (Asus G50v) GDDR3, in this case:

Overclocked DDR2 9600m GT≠9700m GT

 

Not anymore.

 

What do you mean? Do you mean that there isn't a guide anymore, or that it doesn't rid you of your warranty anymore?? Please clarify.

 

not to thread jack...but lets say you are getting the msi notebook with the 9600m gt with gddr3...if I OC it would it then be = to the 9700m gt?

 

No. You might get close to the same frequencies, but the level of cooling, the build characteristics and related stuff would just not fit.
The 9600M GT is fine for 15 inchers, whereas maybe the 9700M GT seems to be more for 17 inch laptops.

 

The ASUS G50V-A1 is a 15 incher with a 9700M GT. How well this works out remains to be seen.

 

I just recently came across the ASUS G50V-A2, seen here http://www.excaliberpc.com/587923/asus-g50v-a2-15.4-notebook.html , for what it offers it seems to be priced pretty well with confirmed GDDR3 memory. I only wish it had the P9500 Intel CPU along with a fingerprint reader, but an added blu-ray and faster GPU is a nice touch for what I want. It’s also slightly thinner than the dv5t.

 

hmmm does the gt outpeform the gs by a lot? Anddoes the up have ddr3 GPU cause if its yes to both i acutally be better off gettingthat instead of the asus m50 ps unrelated but what ghz would bottleneck on a rts game wig the 96m gt?

 

Even your lowest end C2D wouldn't bottleneck it, except maybe the 1.5ghz one but not that much.

9600M GS is similar to the 8600M GT and 9600M GT to the 8700M GT

 

so since the most CPU intensive thing I do is convert the odd movie for iTunes and maybe the odd rts a 2.2 or 2 ghz c2d would suit? Plus is it going to provide noticeable results between them I didn't full understand

 

The 2ghz will suffice.

 

It's not like it's not possible for them to do it, it's whether they bother to or not. I used to work for a distributor of temperature monitoring equipment. We sold temperature monitor strips that electronics companies used that would change color when a certain temperature is exceeded and they used them for warranty purposes.

I've also had motherboards that claimed support for intrusion detection. I've never used it, but presumably you could hook up the motherboard to a sensor on the case and there would be some on board memory that knows if you opened the case. They could easily have some memory that stores events when standard operating specs are exceeded.

I'm not saying they do check, because admittedly nowadays overclocking is so common and components should have some safety margin anyways, but it's hardly difficult for them to make mechanisms to figure it out if they wanted to.

 

Just out of curiosity, would the 9700M GT be significantly better than the 9600M GT DDR2? I know it has higher clocks and it will definitely have a performance increase but I can't figure out if it's worth going with the Asus G50 or just sticking with a Sager 2096 with the 9600M GT for a few hundred less. Not much of a gamer but would like to play games sometimes on decent settings.

 

if your not much of a gamer dont bother with the upgrade, just get the 9600

 

so can i overclock the 9600m gt or not?

edit: nvm i overclocked it anyways

 

Hi,

could you tell me how, beacuse I couldn't OC the 9600m GT from my ACER 5930G.

Could you please type the steps you've followed.

Thanks.