Overclocking ATI mobile X1800

Anyone know with what programs you can overclock ati mobile x1800 and how much can it take?

 

ati-tool... i think should be able to do that...

 

The latest ATT (Ati Tray Tool) should do the trick.
The x1800 (mobility)version I have is underclocked from FS to 400mhz, but according to the ati site, the stock core is 450mhz, so I have clocked it up to 450mhz.
I havnt bothered to overclock it more as it is powerful enough to take whatever I throw at it.

 

I advice you to install the newest ATI Omega drivers. It has ATI Tray tools integrated. Great tool to overclock.

Charlie

 

Ok, i must do something wrong. With the omega drivers ati tools did not let me overclock anything at all, but when i intalled catalyst 6.9 and ati tools i can overclock, and clock speed saves. Problem is that as soon i am starting anything that is using 3d accelaration in grafik card clock speed on GPU resets. Cant understand why.

 

I have the same problem with my X700, and I know a lot of other people do as well. I can overclock perfectly with the Omega Catalyst 6.3 drivers, but anything over that, and I cannot overclock. I believe this is a driver issue, but I don't have any experience with ATI's X1000 series video cards so I cannot be certain. I would look to see how other people are overclocking their X1000 series cards.

 

Swank did you use ATT for overclocking ?? As I cant find a way to overclock my mobile x1800 with it.. It says its disabled, and I cant find anyway to enable it again

Ive swiched to ATI Tool for the moment, until I can enable overclock in ATT

 

You need to download the latest ATI Tray Tool from the russian sister site, since 3dguru is updating their webpage.
http://www.radeon2.ru/atitray/attsetup.exe
This should work with both Omegadriver and the latest ATI drivers. I have tried it with both and it works for me.
Good luck


swank

 

Thx Swank mate

It works very well indeed

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Well, now ive tryed a little and played with ATT installed...
and from what i can conclude, is that it works fine,
except that it messes up powerplay :/ Meaning that when ATT is installed, you cannot
change powerplay profile, going from battery to AC, and when exiting ATT the system stalls

Any1 else having any troubles with cata 6.9 + ATT installed ??

*edit*

 

Powerplay is messed up without ATT being installed, too. It's probably some cruft in the registry left from ATT, but I can set powerplay to use full power when I'm plugged in, and it still clocks down to max battery no matter what I do. So I've resorted to just using ATT's detection and upping it when I start a 3D app, otherwise leaving it underclocked for default usage.

 

It does not work on my laptop. Tryed lattest ATT both with Omega drivers and Cat 6.9, did not work. It Shows same thing, memory i can only put max on 700+ witch is lower then standart, and what i overclock on GPU resets as soon as i start 3dmark2005. When using drivers from FSC 3dmark score drops to 5200 points from 5700 by the way. Dont know if it matters, but i have lattes updated to lattes bios version.

 

2Swank:
How is it going with heat. As i know FSC underclocked x1800 because of heating. And when you returned it to its 450, how is it? And, did you do something with memory clock? What performance increase?

 

I dont reccommend Omega drivers for X1000 cards because they cause artifacting in games(tiny black or purple dots).

The catalyst drivers have a file in your system that reclocks your card every tme you enter full screen 3d. You need to delete that file. Usually ATI tool disbles it.

 

I've used the latest ATT and clocking it up to 450mhz doesnt seem to be any problem. I havnt actually measured the the temp increse, but it doesnt seem much warmer. The machine works with no hickups. The only problem I have met is that ATT set the max memory speed fot overclocking to 756mhz, when in fact the standard speed before overclocking is 900+ something. Weird indeed. It may be possible to set the speed higher via regedit, but I havnt tried that yet.

swank

 

I used Powerstrip, seemed to work. And as for overheating, i was playing Oblivion for ages and no problems. This was all done on stock drivers. but i dont play it anymore(its a pretty lame game) so no idea about latest driver probs.

 

Well ive turned out to be using the downclock speed for the mom, using just the catalyst 6.9 driver... but i had it up to 425 with ATT with out any problem, it seemed to be a little varmer around the graphiccard area, but nothing critcally, i guess 450 would be fine aswell...

Swank and others with the limit problem, have you been in the general setup and removed the overclock/downclock limit ? when doing that with ATT enabled im able to turn memory up aswell Tho i havent tryed pushing up the memory, just know i were able to pull the slider against higher speeds

But, with 425 mhz clock speed enables actually a lot of lost power for the short time i tryed it. Ill try again if someone comes up with a fix for the powerplay

 

What is this file called?

 

What exact version of ATT did you used, what settings, what windows version you have and so on. I dont think it is any hardware diffrens with our computers, it is propobly just software diffrens that dont give me overclock my GPU. What bios version do you have, if you have updated bios, did you overclock before or after bios update???

 

Stupid point to make: When you install Omega Drivers and it asks you if you are using a laptopn, say no or else it will disable the overclocking. Just making sure you all know.

 

Yes, i pressed No, and i can overclock, but clock speed resets it self after you enter any fullscreen 3d program like 3dmark.

 

Have u saved your overclocking profile? Actually I have the same problem, but only in 3dmark. In every game I've tried the overclocking works fine, and it makes quite the difference from 400mhz to 450mhz.
I have also tried powerstrip and that works with 3dmark (scores above 6000 points), but I prefer ATT and so long as it works with the games I couldnt care less if it works with 3dmark or not.

swank

 

Yes, i did saved the profile, but actualy did not tryed to test performace with anything els then 3dmark when i tryed to overclock.

 

Damit, did now knew you could use powerstip to overclock ati Mobile x1800, last time i used this program was to overclock G400, and that was very looong time ago. Any way with powerstrip i did over clock it and got 6804 points in 3dmark 2005. GPU was on 513Mhz and Memmory 1026Mhz. Did not saw any artifacts or notice any temperatre changes. Will latter buy a coolpad and try to overclock it more.

 

THAT IS A HUGE SCORE,well done dude is it getting hot.......

 

I don't think overclocking is good for this laptop in the long run. Of course it's nice show off in benchmarks. IMHO the cooling solution in this laptop is not enough for any kind of overclocking, again in the long run. I mean playing games like Oblivion for hours stresses the system to the limit. Though overclocks makes it run better for some time, the heat will propably start to slow it and wear or even damage the system components in the end. Well, I'm by no means an expert and maby I'm just a p*ssy but I'm just taking good care that my precious won't get hurt any time soon. If I had a proper cooling pad I would propably restore from Fujitsu underclocks to the ATI defaults (450/500(1000 DDR)).

 

The fan can go in much higher rpm then it usully do in this laptop, when it overclock and i play with for longer time you hear how fan gets higher rpm for shorter amout of time, so i would now think it is overheeting. But i did ordered a coolpad yestaday just to be the the save side.

 

I to would be carefull not to stress the system to much. Like I said earlier, clocking the system to its default will get u a 3dmark score above 6000, and u will have no problem with todays games.
I have played FEAR, Oblivion, BF2 and more with the graphics setting set to max, and have no problem what so ever.
Anyways alexejrm, good luck with the overclocking and tell us how it goes and if your system remains stable.

swank

 

I can play FEAR smoothly only with 1280x768, AF 8x, AA 2x, Soft Shadows Off and finally Texture Resolution at Medium. Everything else is at Maximum. But, if I set Texture Resolution to Maximum, though the game looks great, it's not really playable because of too heavy stuttering. Even if certain other settings are lowered or disabled, it stutters too much. Are you positive that you play FEAR smoothly with 1440x900, AF 16x, AA 4x, Texture res Max... everything at Maximum?

Oblivion stutters outdoors no matter what settings/tweaks I have tried. I get decent FPS of 15-40 outdoors but too often the game just stops for a second or two. This happens most often when new things pop in from the horizon. It's best demonstrated when I walk east from Imperial City towards the Great Forest. It's hellishly annoying especially because lowering/disabling some of the graphics settings or disabling sounds+music alltogether won't remove it just eases it a bit. Before Catalyst 6.9 I couldn't even play the game because of crashes, so there's some improvement...

 

hmm, fear should play smooth with the textures at high too, strange...
Oh i see, you should take 2GB of ram in stead of 1GB. That will make oblivion much smoother too!

 

Ok, ok, I have soft shadows OFF, but thats it. What u should do is get 2Gb of ram, makes a huge difference. The same in BF2. With 1 Gb ram, I had do set some of the graphics to medium, or else I got the stutter, with 2 Gb ram I have everything set to max and it plays smooth.

swank

 

Yes, that has been pointed in the official FEAR forums for ATI cards. Apparently most Nvidia cards play the game smoothly with 1 GB of ram. The thing is, it's just hard to understand why the h*ll the game needs 1 GB more ram if the mem usage is only about half of the 1 GB when I play it..I mean it stutters right from the start when the memory isn't even filled yet. HD is reading something all the time. With Medium textures that's not the case. Of course I know that these Fujitsu HDDs are quite crappy...

Could it be that the overclocking releases some hidden power from the card for the stupid ATI memory handling?

 

That may be the case
I definitly noticed a huge difference in the loading time in Brothers in Arms, where it droped from 30sec+ to not more than 10sec. The same in BF2, though not that much.

 

Anyways, have downloaded the BF2142 demo and played it a couple of hours with everything on max and 1440x900 res. and it workes like a charm.
The Titan mode is quite fun

 

May I ask you what driver versions are you using? Those might be the only difference between our laptops. I have latest in everything but Bios. I have gotten the drivers from component manufacturer's own sites, not from Fujitsu since their drivers are outdated. Otherwise my Xi 1546 is cleaner than Mother Theresa, so no application/service, codec or any bug from outer space could be slowing down my games.

 

How did you get 1440x900 resolution, i can only choose 1200x900 and no widescreen resolution

 

Same as you, I've downloaded the drivers from the manufacturer's site and also have the latest bios from FS. I am currently using the latest ati driver package, but without CCC. I am using ATT instead. Also I have clocked up the X1800 to ati's spec and as I have pointed out before, that makes a huge difference.

Swank

 

Rightclick on the BF2142 icon, go down to properties and where it says target add +fullscreen 1 +szx 1440 +szy 900


Also check out
http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
where you will find help to get most of your games run in widescreen.

swank

 

I don't really use CCC either, but I have installed it and disabled all of it's bad resource usage (services/startup). I use ATT regularly for different 3D settings and game profiles. Hmm , maby I should also try that Bios update.. And by the way, when you installed Intel's 945PM Chipset dirvers, did you also install that Matrix Storage Manager mentioned in the download page. I did, though wasn't quite sure if it was needed, because of the VIA Raid (even though I don't use Raid). Just trying to isolate if there could be something else than those underclocking and 1GB less memory that are making my games stutter. Actually Oblivion even crashed yesterday after 1,5 hours of gaming.

 

What are your guys thoughts on this card and 'Crysis' ? Do you think it will be abill to pull 1440x900 with playable fram rates?

 

think it can handle Crysis at that resolution with low settings. I saw this on the net:

Recommended Requirements:
CPU: Dual-core CPU (Athlon X2/Pentium D)
Graphics: Nvidia 7800GTX/ATI X1800XT (SM 3.0) or DX10 equivalent
RAM: 1.5Gb
HDD: 6GB
Internet: 512k+ (128k+ upstream)
Optical Drive: DVD
Software: DX10 with Windows Vista

If you have a top notch 2.0 GHz Core 2 Duo with 2 GB 667 MHz DDR2 and a good overclocked X1800, it should play at 1440*900. Maybe not at highest settings, but I think it will play.

 

Woundering if Crysis will work in Windows Vista Beta RC1?

 

Okay, back again...

I havent still been able to overclock with out getting in troubles with Powerplay, anyone knows if the new omega drivers fixes this problem?

Its because I uses the lap in battery mode aswell, and would like not to have full power on the graphiccard while in battery... I would like to get the full out of the lappy and put it back to "standart" clocks, but I wount have to disable Powerplay...

 

How well does the Omega 6.9 work with X1800? Is there any problems? Is it really better than Catalyst 6.9?

 

The only problem I have encountered with omega6.9 is with the BF2142Demo. On that game and with my setup/machine the cat. driver works better...........
That will probably change with the full release though.


swank

 

What are you guys pulling in 3dmark06 ?

 

Last time I checked, couple of month ago, I think I pulled around 6100. To busy playing BF2142Demo to check again

swank

 

That can't be true. I don't even get 6000 in 3DMark05. In 3DMark06 I get under 3000 points.. I would overclock if the clocks would stick. They reset after I run a game or 3D app..

 

Use powerstip to overclock, it works fine with that program. Persinoly have not tried the 3dmark06 yet.

 

Oooops, my bad
I ment off course 3dmark05.
With ATT the clock frequency resets when I run 3DMark, but works without problem with every game I have tried.
Powerstrip works even with 3dmark(what I used to get the 3dm05 score, core 450mhz, mem unchanged), but I prefere the easy interface of ATT.