Overclocking a 675m?

A) I don't want to get a 680m or a 7970m because I did not give you those as the options. I asked you a question and I had constraints. Stick to those. 675m or 660m. I live on Klingon where no other GPUs exist. Aight? There are only those two and I want to have my games look better. That is all I care about.

B) A 675m equipped laptop does not weigh as much as a desktop. and B subpart 2) Can you carry a desktop around in your backpack? You have 15.6 laptops with the 675m. You can carry that around in a backpack. Heck my laptop weighs more than a 15.6 675m laptop.

28nm cards do not have capabilities. Their architectures have capabilities. Are you trying to say that the 7970m and 660m can give similar performances if the software is written correctly? LOL.

670m and 675m are low end??? LOL.

Firstly, the 675m SLI costs more than double as much. So cost factored in there. You are so linear it isn't funny. Think about all factors. Some people are purchasing the 675m for compute. Some purely because they like nvidia and have good experiences with their drivers or bad ones with AMD drivers and cannot afford the 680m so the 675m is the next logical choice.

340W? That is wrong. The M18x has a 240W brick and it has SLI 675ms as an option. If they required 340W of power, the M18x psu would be bigger. Your sources are completely made up. Please CITE CREDIBLE SOURCES when engaging in a debate.

Yeah and you can't play most games on high while the dude with the 675m can. And that is what he wants to do.

 

Linear? This is blatant trolling already. Just ignore him.

 

I only need to put my hand on the keyboard and backside of the new macbook pro to know how incapable that machine is at sustaining load at anything resembling comfortable to use. If they could have managed temps it would be a great machine to pull double duty playing games and working, as it stands it can't cope with gaming.

All technology depreciates quickly, especially after the 2-3 year mark. This is just common sense. I really don't care it's working for me and I didn't buy it thinking about how much money I would make selling it 3 years down the road.

Also, you disregarded my argument in my previous post. Not all decisions to buy a specific laptop revolve around GPU performance per watt, not even close. Show me the laptop i would want to buy that has a 5870 for one. Second, lets not even bring up that the 675M performs 30% better at minimum even if the 5870M did exist in another laptop I would consider.

I don't have to take anything into account except the fact that this laptop is what I wanted and it works for me. I don't even know what argument you are making anymore.

 

He's avoiding the question because he can't manipulate the facts to suite his opinion.

The part about getting a desktop instead of a 15 inch laptop with a 675m is laughable at best. If you think a P150EM with 675m is too heavy, then I suggest getting some free weights.

Right...

Why cite credible sources when you can spew personal option and misinformation laced with hyperbole?

And our logic is questionable.


This is absolutely unbelievable.

 

If I was given the choice gtx 660m or 675m I would choose 660m all the time.

why? because it is cheaper and newer. More potential with newer drivers.

I will show you this go 7950gtx to 8700m gt to 9600m gt gddr3 all perform similar. Now mine takes far less electricity then the 7950gtx. The 7950gtx may play games at higher fps at 1200p because it is 256bit so using your logic you would buy the 7950m gtx over a 9600m gt as all you want is performance.

Also maverick even with same architecture die shrinked you can oc the card and have same power consumption as non oc card.

 

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good for you. At the end of the day a 7870m which is a 45w tdp card performs similar to a 675m.
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Congrats to the 7870M.. and here's the number of notebooks you can buy that have one: 0

Not to mention it's still around 15-20% below 675M performance.

 

lol 10% at best but 45w card vs 675m 100w card.

 

Is the 7870m even out yet?

 

Ignore him guys. It is sad that it had to take someone to tell me that this guy is trolling. I mean who can honestly compare a desktop to a 15.6 laptop in terms of weight?

 

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To be fair, the Asus G55VW (15.6" 660M) weighs 8.4lb. That's a heft 15.6 incher. (that's what she said?)

 

Now ignoring nissangtr786, remember when they said the 660m was a 45w tdp gpu? Official info came, and we found it was rated at 75w. Also while doing a bit of research, i discovered the temperatures are actually not much lower than the 670m (comparing with the same laptop, Asus G75. 660m usually sits in the high 60s, while the 670, at low/mid 70's).

edit: both while gaming

edit2 (so many edits): now I remembered the 7970m went the same way, actually. Original rumors about 70tdp, real value is 100.

 

actual power consumption is a lot lower though. gtx 660m is more a 50w card after all it is a 650m with slight oc. tdp gets calculated differently. Power consumption is very low. I am pretty sure manufacturers have the 660m as 50w.

 

Given the lower power needs and fluctuation of laptop cards vs. desktop, TDP is not a bad way to get rough estimates of power consumption.

 

A 660m that weighs in at 8.4lb? But.....but but laptops equipped with 660ms should like just....like.....FLOAT because of the buoyant force of air!!!!

 

The 660m isn't just a 650m with OC. It is also overVOLTED. Power increases as square of voltage (and linearly with capacitance and frequency).

Also, the 670m, 675m and 680m are all rated at 100W TDP. So how does one get numbers for actual power usage?

TDP is a meaningless statistic. It is basically "power" that needs to be dissipated (obviously as heat). So technically, you could be using as much power as you want and if your cooling system can dissipate enough so that the heat dissipated is actually UNDER 100W for those chips, you are still good. See how useless that is when comparing GPUs that are in the same range? It becomes even more meaningless when comparing different fab processes.

 

I wonder if the 675m was still called the 580m how many people would buy it. Nvidia rebranding has brainwashed people into buying it. A question for you if the go 7950gtx was called the 8700m gts with slight oc would you buy it over an 8700m gt.

Its like supporting a company for trying to rip people off thinking oh 670m series must be high end. I know tdp is rubbish as the 660m takes a lot less then the 670m or 675m. I suppose the 660m is 2x performance per watt then fermi 670m or 675m. Its actually quite funny amd 5000m series was far more energy efficient then fermi and still people buy fermi high end.

Heck fermi was so power hungry my laptop performance per watt is like similar.

 

No. The notebook I wanted had one. If it had a 7970M I would have one of those instead. Perhaps in a year or two. When I see that the 675M isn't cutting it anymore, I'll switch.


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In 2 years time 7970m would be midrange, nvidia maxwell basic 20w gpu should be competing with your 675m. I suppose in 2 years time your gpu would be in effect 4 and a half years old technology. I might hold out for then as it would be funny 20w gpu 580m performance 40w 7970m performance 80w double 680m performance. 100w 2 and a half times 680m performance.

Using your decision making would you buy a gtx 680m rebranded to something like a 775m when 780m which is 2x efficient per watt is out or coming out in a month and pay full price and your system value goes down significantly.

 

How many times do I have to tell you i didn't buy the laptop based solely on GPU it had. It had a part in the decision, since I deemed the 675M was still a top-tier GPU performance wise. It wasn't like I consciously said "this is a rebrand of the 580M! Sign me up!".

I'll just see what my options are when the time comes. I had a 5730 up to 2 weeks ago and it was still passable since my panel was 1366x768. I think I'll be fine for a year at absolute minimum.

 

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Its actually funny fermi is like the last of the low perfornance power hungry chips. Now comes the massive gains. In 2 years time if nvidia actually come close to what they are saying, I don't think they would have a gpu as slow as a 675m but I think the arm cpu is where they got optimistic.

I reckon at best another 2.5x performance per watt over kepler could be achieved.

 

The 5730 had better performance per watt as well. Your system should take another 80-100w then the one you had with the 5730.

 

what you did is like me know getting 9800m gtx on sli on to my laptop in terms of power consumption and upgrade.

Another way to think of it is like you had a 5730m and then you get the 6990m.

 

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I know im right, but I am just trying different methods to teach a simple mehod.

Would you seriously pay top money for a 2010 car engine over a 2012 car just because it performed better. Also the 2012 car with engine has carbo fibre everything so it is very advanced and fast through corners. The 2012 car is slow but does 2.2x more mpg. The 2010 car engine does 1.2x less is heavy crap at cornering but guzzles through twice as much fuel to be 20% faster and it is same diesel type engine.

Thats how revolutionery hte 680m or 660m is. Its like having a car double the mpg on diesel with same performance which will not happen.

The way I see it is a 675m is like an old ford gt fuel hungry monster while the 660m is like a diesel with turbo that performs slightly worse and has a chassis of a nissan gtr more advanced every way in corners accerleration and is clever hence it could lap miles faster like kepler is more clever then fermi.

 

Right there. All of the world's problems fit into that.

 

Funny thing is, this laptop is more pleasurable to use since the cooling is much better, it's also quieter. N61jq would heat my hand up and was loud blowing hot air out the left side.

And, I think I can spend another $5/year on electricity to run this unit. Especially since:


I could probably push it a little more than that but why bother.. I'm ok with that.. As it is it's approaching 3x performance. The 5730 is the same generation as the 485M right?

 

stop trolling him, the 675m is a great card, and it can be overclocked quite a bit. it is the best card of the fermi generation, and when it came out it was the fastest. get off your high horse with your 9600 gt and get a real laptop. thanks and op, rock on.

 

It would probably cost double and I doubt you bill is only $5 a year extra. Its quite your old machine had a 2008 45nm technology cpu and your current laptop has a 2010 40nm gpu.

 

It plays most games at 1280x800 on high at 60fps like pes fifa burnout paradise trackmania nations.

675m in mid 2012 is like how a 9800m gtx is when a gtx 480m was out. Do you understand that. Do you think if you got a 9800m gtx in 2010 you would say its a great card as that is what you are saying about the 675m.

 

Also aduy my 9600m gt is more powerful then the ps3 gpu hence why I can max most games at 1280x800 without aa.

 

as of right now its still the second fastest gpu.

 

3rd fastest, both the 680M and 7970M are out for purchase. The 7950M is still MIA. So 675M is still the 3rd fastest released single gpu on the planet for notebooks. Good point.

 

ain't the 6990m more powerful.
Also the 675m is tthe most power hungry single gpu on the planet for notebooks.

 

1. No
2. Who cares

 

no the most power hungry was the 480m, the 485m and 580m/675m run much cooler and much more efficiently. you are really irritating me now, with your banter of the 675m. its a great card just get over it, you dont have the only opinion.

 

LOL I just realized that the thread is titled "overclocking the 675m" and the first page itself the OP was satisfied. The next 8 were a combination of trolling, ego and plain a completely offtopic and pointless argument.

 

Yup,I asked for some OCing advice. Although in the end I figured things out. Haven't had any problems even though I was told it wasn't possible to overclock a 675m. I managed to get a 5-10fps increase in most games which I was surprised by, no stuttering or artifacting. There is still room but my temps are already in the 80C. Also, I don't give a fiddler's fart about power consumption. If I was then I wouldn't have purchased a gaming laptop.

 

if you want i can walk you through some overvolting as well, that ought to increase the max speed of your stable clocks. .

 

10 fps is I think as far as you can go. You said you increased clocks by 120Mhz?

 

Sure, I could use some help.

 

At first I did, but it I ended up with 715/1630 because 740/1650 was a bit unstable.

 

if your interested in overvolting it, i can help as long as the software is compatible with your card, i know it works on the 580m so it should do the 675m as well but no guarantees.

 

much more efficiently lmao. Check notebookcheck. Reality is a 675m is the most power hungry gpu with 580m. They just added more oc and a few more unified shaders to the 480m and similar to 485m.

 

If it was possible I'd request that yours and mine posts were deleted from this thread.

So off topic, apologies to the op.

 

715 is still pretty good. That's what? 15% OC? Is it that clock at which you get a max 10fps increase? What further help do you need OC'ing?

 

okay 675m is a great card for mid-high end gaming performance. I don't know much about ocing but if you can undervolt I am sure you can get some performance without taking much more power by ocing a bit on top.

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Just go on 560ti and get similar clocks your gpu has and it should be similar effect of what you gain if you oc which ever.

 

Yes, I was refering to Aduy and overvolting. I'm not sure if I can overvolt, the option is not avaliable in MSi Afterburner.

 

MSI Afterburner will not let you overvolt. While clocks can be software controlled, the potential at the power rail on that GPU is controlled by the BIOS. The BIOS basically initializes all your peripherals (HDD/SSD, GPU, CPU, wifi card what have you). It is programmed to maintain certain voltage at the various peripherals. If you want to change this voltage, you are going to have to change your BIOS.