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    Overclocking the new nVidia 9500M GS

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by TVE, Apr 28, 2008.

  1. TVE

    TVE Newbie

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    Do anyone in here have experience with - or know - the best & safe way to overclock this GPU ???

    I've tried with RivaTuner 2.08 - but I'm not sure I've done it right !!!??? :eek:
    Controlling the fan-speed and heat-measurement - gives me some problems ...

    Please help - I'm a genuine newbie on OC.


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    My laptop:

    ASUS G1Sn-AK023C
    Core 2 Duo T9300 / 2.5 GHz - Centrino Duo
    3 GB RAM
    GF 9500M GS TurboCache (512MB)
    320 GB harddisc (5400 rpm)
    Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium
     
  2. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    You might wanna do abit more research before you decide to destroy your 9500GS

    Read the overclocking guides...

    wrong section btw, it will get moved to the gaming section soon
     
  3. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    Yeah, you really do not want to overclock your graphics card much, you will most likely burn it out in less than a year or so. I would not recommend more than a 5-10% overclock, cause gpu's are very expensive for laptops, and once you fry them, you have bricked your laptop.
    Riva Tuner is a great program for overclocking, but you really need to know how to do it, or you can seriously screw up your system.
    Look for the guide Gophn made on Riva Tuner.

    K-TRON
     
  4. Patrick

    Patrick Formerly beat spamers with stiks

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    Check my sig for an oc'ing guide.
     
  5. deputc26

    deputc26 Notebook Consultant

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    mcurran Notebook Geek

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    Let's get some stable numbers:

    Here's the highest I've gone so far, without looking at anyone else's clocks:

    525/1250/478

    I'm gonna go further, but don't have any experience at this and I'm a little nervous. I'll follow-up with my latest and a 3DMark score to go with it when I get home...
     
  7. Dire NTropy

    Dire NTropy Notebook Deity

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    My results:

    Using 174.16 Drivers

    At 1280x854
    475/950/400 (Default) - 3836 (72C Max)
    550/1100/460 - 4378
    565/1150/470 - 4498
    575/1200/475 - 4592 (74C Max)
    At 1280x854 (External Monitor)
    575/1200/475 - 4207 (74C Max)


    Using 177.26 Drivers

    At 1280x854 (External Monitor)
    475/950/400 (Default) - 3571 (74C Max)
    550/1100/460 - 4076 (76C Max)


    The change of resolutions causes roughly a 10% decrease.
     
  8. mcurran

    mcurran Notebook Geek

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    640/1325/488 (actually 688.5/1404/486) is stable and runs 94C to 96C max. I play Crysis at 4400x900, all settings very high w/ shaders and shadows high - Friggin sweet. Perfect framrate too! A little hot, but stable and best overall I've gotten. I'm using the 177.26 ForceWare drivers from laptopvideo2go obviously, and also PhysX by nVIDIA is working I think (demos worked). Anyone think I should stop, or do you think this is safe since these lappys run hot anyways?
     
  9. mcurran

    mcurran Notebook Geek

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    I should probably wait until I can get the fan control in RivaTuner - Anyone know how to enable this in Vista (9500M GS)?
     
  10. KGann

    KGann NBR Themesong Writer

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    Come on man. That is absurd. Screen shots would be nice, because I'm gonna have to call shenanigans on this one.
     
  11. mcurran

    mcurran Notebook Geek

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    488 is my Memory clock limit (artifacts) and about 650 is my Core limit. Shaders are crazy. I thought it said that the shader clocks and core are unified on this thing, should we not be unlinking them?
     
  12. KGann

    KGann NBR Themesong Writer

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    Please, show some screenshots of the Crysis settings. Your card is less powerful (I think) to the 8600GT, which has hell running high at 800x600.
     
  13. Dire NTropy

    Dire NTropy Notebook Deity

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    The 9500m GS is between the 8600m GT DDR2 and 8600m GT GDDR3 in performance. IIRC I ran the Crysis Demo on High (1280x800) with ~20-25 FPS.
     
  14. mcurran

    mcurran Notebook Geek

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    mcurran Notebook Geek

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    I'll put the benchmark and a bigger pic in tomorrow.
     
  16. mcurran

    mcurran Notebook Geek

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    [​IMG]

    Let me know if these aren't working.
     
  17. KGann

    KGann NBR Themesong Writer

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    Nope, says invalid.
     
  18. Cheeseman

    Cheeseman Eats alot of Cheese

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  19. mcurran

    mcurran Notebook Geek

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    5682 (3DMark06) - 177.26 Driver - Overclocked 640/1325/488 - 94*C (Stable with no artifacts in ATITool scan for over 3 minutes) - Crysis @ 1440x900 all settings Very High w/ Shaders and Shadows High - No shenanigans, but I don't have a website to link a picture. If someone can show me how to upload a pic without a webpage, since my MySpace is private, I'll be glad to provide them. ASUS G1Sn rocks. Someone let me know if these clocks are way too dangerous considering I'm only gaining some considerable framerates(rough visual guess w/ Crysis). Also - anyone got fan control on this machine? Sorry for double posting :)
     
  20. KGann

    KGann NBR Themesong Writer

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    Use Fraps, and upload using www.imageshack.us.
     
  21. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    94 degrees sounds too high for that GPU in my opinion.
     
  22. tavara

    tavara Notebook Consultant

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    Mcurran..... my 8600m GT, shader clock can go up to 1600 MHz. So you can push your card even more. ;)
     
  23. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    I won't let my gpu run at 90c+, no way!
    dude you seriously need to watch the temps. 90+ is way too high, not just the gpu, but other components around it would get damaged as well.
     
  24. KGann

    KGann NBR Themesong Writer

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    And remember, there is no monitor for your Memory, so your Core may be fine, but your Memory can still burn up.
     
  25. Sharkonwheels

    Sharkonwheels Notebook Evangelist

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    Where/how are people getting the Vostro 1500's with the 8600M GT?
    I only see 8600M GS as an option....


    T
     
  26. mcurran

    mcurran Notebook Geek

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    The memory is only slightly OC'ed KGann. Here's my max OC, stable with ATITool Artifact test for over 5 minutes, and successfully ran entire Benchmark in 3DMark06 at 1680x1050: 655/1524/488 (PnP Monitor: 702/1620/486)

    5894@1024x768

    Any notch or two more on any one of the 3 Clocks causes stability issues - If someone needs to unlock the limits on RivaTuner in order to get these higher Shader Clocks: You need to go under Power User tab and add a value to the MaxClockLimit value under RvaTuner \ Overclocking \ Global registry item and apply (I used 100). Still figuring out ImageShack and will post Crysis screen after I try running all very high.
     
  27. TLW

    TLW Newbie

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    Yeah, I know this thread is kinda old but I didn't want to make a new one.

    I have a problem with using RivaTuner for my 9500m gs.

    At first, everything went fine and I could change the clocks but now, whenever I make tweaks in RivaTuner, such as increasing the Memory Clock by 10, It doesn't stick.

    I push Apply, Ok and everything but it just resets back to normal.

    Anyone know how to fix this problem?

    It was working fine before and now this is frustrating. I've even tried uninstalling and reinstalling Rivatuner via Program and Apps in the Control Panel.

    If you need anymore info, let me know.
     
  28. notyou

    notyou Notebook Deity

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    Seems like the driver you're using doesn't support OCing. Check around for a recent driver that does since I don't follow nVidia much.
     
  29. 660hpv12

    660hpv12 Notebook Deity

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    yep, its the driver. there is a sticky on how to update your driver, check it out
     
  30. valrond

    valrond Notebook Geek

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    I have the same problem, but I have already updated my drivers to 177.70 (vista 32). These drivers are oc enabled, as I've read at the nvision forums, but I can't get it to OC. The laptop is the Acer 8920g
     
  31. asho

    asho Newbie

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    Hi,

    I also have the same problem with my ACER 5930g, no way to overclock my 9600m GT.

    What I've done:

    1) Download 177.26 from laptopvideo2go.
    2) Overwrite the INF file with the old one.
    3) Uninstall old drivers
    4) Reboot and intall 177.26 modded
    5) Instal ntune 5.0.5.54

    No way to change the clocks with ntune, RivaTuner 2.09 (already installed) or Atitool 0.27b4 (already installed).

    What is wrong?

    Could someone describe the process to me, please??

    Thank you very much.
     
  32. mcurran

    mcurran Notebook Geek

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    You meant to say, "Overwrite the INF file with the (new) one." Right? You need to replace the INF that's currently in the supplied driver folder, with the separately downloaded "modified INF" most of the time. I've seen that there is usually a zip file with the original INF's that you can extract and then overwrite the ones already supplied, so I'm not sure what the INF's are that come standard with each driver... Anyways, you can always just verify that the driver installed successfully by checking Device Manager. If the driver installed successfully, then there should be no reason Rivatuner 2.09 won't work. I usually get a dialog with the initial install of each driver when I start RivaTuner, that says something along the lines of "This is not a digitally signed driver..., or whatever," and I check the box to not notify me again until the next driver installation. Then just follow the tutorials everywhere else on using RivaTuner. I also use ATITool to test each OC. The best drivers so far, have been the last two - Right now I'm using 177.83.
     
  33. asho

    asho Newbie

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    Hi mcurran,

    I have some more post here:

    http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=19829&st=20

    yes, I've overwritten the original INF with the modded one, otherwise it doesn't allow me to install the driver.

    Yes, RivaTuner says the driver is still not supporte, but I've tried with older ones (which are supported) and it doesn't OC either.

    When I have the drivers installed (following the steps) then:

    1) I turn off powermizer and smartdimmer
    2) Run RivaTuner and wait till the initial test is done (only when you run it for the first time)
    3) I get into "Overclocking" tab and tick "Enable driver-level hardware OC"
    4) Swich to "Performance 3D" profile (and I see clocks are not reported correctly, it says 400/800/500 while them are 500/1250/800)
    5) Move the core slider to OC beyond 500MHz (default for my GPU) and click "Apply". The slider remains but clocks don't change (i check them with GPU-Z and RivaTuner itself).
    6) Then I click "Accept" and the window is closed.
    7) I open the "Overclocking" tab again, and the sliders are at default again (400/800/500).

    So, no way to OC :S
     
  34. matmat07

    matmat07 Notebook Evangelist

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    asho, are you sure you have the 9500M GS? because there are not the spec I have..
     
  35. asho

    asho Newbie

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    Sorry,

    no, I have the 9600GT 512 DDR3, but it's the same chip with more voltage and higher clocks.

    Damm it, I have not been able to OC yet!!

    Thank you all.
     
  36. matmat07

    matmat07 Notebook Evangelist

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    Save the setting in a profile. That was the step I missed and you did too it seems. It should work after.
     
  37. vperaser

    vperaser Newbie

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    My 9500m GS is at 600/1200/475 and its runs pretty smooth, sure you cant get the best graphics of the game available buts it wont runs with lags, i cant get crysis of need for speed undercover to it max cause it crash....but with moderate setting runs great!!
     
  38. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    nope. 9600gt is built on 65nm, 9500m gs is built on 80nm.
     
  39. gazzacbr

    gazzacbr Notebook Evangelist

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    i managed to o/c using rivatuner on vista 64 but cannot seem to do the same on xp (dual boot so same everything). tried acer orig 177.41 (signed), and 180.48. can anyone tell me exactly which driver you have managed to o/c on xp so i can try the same. it was getting late and my head was starting to spin so maybe user error ;-)
    @asho, did you ever get your prob solved, seems to be be the same as mine.

    acer 6920g, 1920x1080, T8300, 9500M GS, Vista 64 & XP32
    bump, anyone?
     
  40. yotano211

    yotano211 Notebook Evangelist

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    lol all 9000 series cards are built on 65m, the 9050's is built on 55nm fab.
     
  41. gazzacbr

    gazzacbr Notebook Evangelist

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    anybody help me? have tried several different drivers on xp32 but still cant overclock, even though no problems on vista 64 with rivatuner :confused:
    why would drivers be locked for xp and not vista? which drivers has anybody overclocked on xp32 and with which program?
     
  42. darrickmartin

    darrickmartin Notebook Evangelist

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    are you sure about that? gpu-z reports 80nm for my 9500m GS
     
  43. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    all 9 series are built on 65nm except 9500m gs(80nm) and some 9650m gt(55nm). also some 9800s are going to move to 55nm as well.
     
  44. darrickmartin

    darrickmartin Notebook Evangelist

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    yeah thats what i thought...
     
  45. kaiby9

    kaiby9 Newbie

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    I love the overclock potential with this card :) at the moment i'm running at ~700/1600/550 (possible with a combined vBIOS flash + rivatuner) with a max temp of only 68C! (thanks to good ol' clean fans, some decent thermal paste and the awesome acer cooling system on this thing, plus a cpu undervolt).

    I'm still tweaking, but i reckon i could probably get around another 50-100 MHz out of my core (the shaders do go up to 1700, but only gta4 runs stable with that, the other games cause the driver to reset at such high levels). However the driver resets have actually stopped in most other games bar UT3 now i've OC'd the memory up to 550, so that may have been the problem.

    Has anyone else got their card this high with nice temperatures? by which i mean sub-80, i consider anything above 80 as potentially dangerous, because i'm too cautious :) or am i just the lucky one? (since i haven't seen any artefacts yet, or any sign of video card corruption, just the driver reset if shaders get too high).
     
  46. errdayimhustln

    errdayimhustln Notebook Enthusiast

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    sure buddy...
     
  47. TehSuigi

    TehSuigi Notebook Virtuoso

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    Screenshots plz.
    I'm running at 625/1250/450 - even 475 on the memory gives me artifacts.
     
  48. Jaguar

    Jaguar Notebook Consultant

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    Do you think thermal paste (arctic silver 2) would help my temps any ? I've heard the stock ones could be in bad contact..
    Running 3dmark06 at stock clocks peaking 89C :/ Though, I have problems with the fan (see this thread if you know how to help http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=359746).
     
  49. TehSuigi

    TehSuigi Notebook Virtuoso

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    I AS5'd my GPU core when I removed my cooling system to upgrade my CPU.
    On idle right now, it's a cool 58 degrees. The most I've seen it is around 73.
     
  50. Morten747

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    Have someone overclocked the Acer Aspire 6920G? I can't get it to work :( So, can someone teach me how to do it? :)
     
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