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    Overclocking the new nVidia 9500M GS

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by TVE, Apr 28, 2008.

  1. TehSuigi

    TehSuigi Notebook Virtuoso

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    Hi Morten, welcome to the forums!
    First, you'll need a software tool to perform the overclocking. Something like RivaTuner is nice, but I prefer Nvidia System Tools because it integrates into my Nvidia Control Panel.
    Secondly, you'll need an overclockable video driver. 179.28 or 179.48 from Nvidia themselves are the best bet.
    And finally, you'll need patience. Using programs like 3DMark06 or ATiTool to stress your GPU and test its stability are practically required items. Just test for an hour or so, and if no artifacts show up, you're good!
     
  2. Morten747

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    Well thank you :D Nice to see people like you here! :D
    And thank you for your answer, im going to try it out right now :)
     
  3. King of Interns

    King of Interns Simply a laptop enthusiast

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    It does suck how each card differs so much. I can't go higher than 506 on core without artifacts, so annoying when people with same or similar cards hit over 600.
    I agree with tehsuigi 178.28 official drivers are very stable and OCable
     
  4. TehSuigi

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    There are definitely production variances between one card and another - just like CPUs, GPUs get speed-binned depending on how they handle certain speeds.
    For example, the G84 core: if it can handle 625 MHz stably, it goes into an 8700M GT. If not, it lands in an 8600M GT.
    Of course, some of us luck out and get incredible OCers. I might be able to poke past 600 because I'm on the 9500M GS, which is a core revision (but not a shrink) of the G84 in the 8600M GT. matmat07 and CQSTELUSH also are in the mid-to-high 600s.
     
  5. Morten747

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    I think i made to overclock the graphic card a little bit :) Before i overclocked i had 4339 in 3DMark06 and after i overclocked i got 5246 in 3DMark06 :D

    Default Clock: 475 - 400 - 950
    After overclock: 659 - 442 - 1570

    I think that is very good, and it's very stable, no bugs or things like that :)
     
  6. King of Interns

    King of Interns Simply a laptop enthusiast

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    Good Overclocking. Now push the memory as high as it goes should be able to get it somewhere near 500mhz. Will bump your score much closer to 6000
     
  7. Morten747

    Morten747 Newbie

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    i cant get my memory over 449MHz? :( Can someone teach me how i can get it closer to 500? :)
     
  8. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    659 on the core is way too high, I promise you. Forget temperatures, you need to run ATiTool for a good hour to see if you're damaging anything.
     
  9. Morten747

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    Okey, i clocked it down, but i can't clock the memory more? Just get errors and those things when i go over 452MHz :confused:

    New clock:

    GPU Clock 549
    Memory: 451
    Shader: 1099
     
  10. DanteOmar

    DanteOmar Notebook Guru

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    Hi TehSuigi,

    I've installed nVidia System Tools and have 179.48 drivers... so can you explain me the process to increase the clock speeds... should I increase the core, the shader and memory one by one? I mean... I have to reach the highest stable clock for the core, then the shader and finally the memory or in conjuntion? and how much do I have to increase in each step?
     
  11. gazzacbr

    gazzacbr Notebook Evangelist

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    sorry to butt in DanteOmar, i just copied some o/c settings from around this forum, if they are in a sig, will be a good starting point anyway. just check temps. my 2c
    ps check out undervolting guide also, will help and no risk
     
  12. krusha03

    krusha03 Notebook Consultant

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    Yes you have to increase them one by one so you find the maximum stable frequency for each of them. The best way of doing that is increasing the frequency while testing for artifacts in Ati-tool. Do like increase of 5-10Mhz and test for few minutes, when artifacts show up decrease for like 10Mhz and test for a longer time, I would go with at least an hour. Furthermore always watch your temperatures, a good program for that is GPU-Z or HWMonitor and taking into consideration that you don't have a temp monitor on your memory i personally wouldn't go for more than 20% (480MHz) overclock since they are not cooled and you have no idea how hot they are running.
     
  13. DanteOmar

    DanteOmar Notebook Guru

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    thank you gazzacbr and krusha03, I will do that later when I have time...
     
  14. TehSuigi

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    @Morten: Well, memory chips have production variances just like GPUs. Push your system to its stable limits, back off a bit, then enjoy the awesome power.
    ...waitaminute, you're a C90S owner, right? Why on earth haven't you upgraded to the 8600M GT with 256MB of GDDR3 memory yet?!
    That'll buy you a hefty chunk of 3DMarks even before overclocking.
     
  15. DanteOmar

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    Today I tried to do the overclocking thing with the nVidia 9500m GS..... I have installed 179.48 official drivers from nVidia, downloaded and installed 6.03 nvidia system tools (ntune, nvmonitor and system update), downloaded and installed ATI Tools for stress testing....
    So I was ready.... I opened nVidia Control panel and raised the core clock to 500 and when I click to Apply, it appears a windows telling (in spanish as I´m a spanish user) "Los cambios que se hicieron no son válidos y no tendrán efecto" (in english "The changes made are invalid and shall not take effect") and the core clock goes back to 475....
    Can you suggest something I should do?
     
  16. TehSuigi

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    Huh. I guess 179.48 may NOT be overclockable.
    Try 179.28 if you can find it.
    Did you do a clean install, or install over top a previous driver?
     
  17. DanteOmar

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    I have done the clean install of the video driver with driver sweep... and I tried again but started with the memory clock and voila!!! it worked! I increased the core clock and nothing.... :mad: so I increased the shader and it worked, so I tried again with the core and I worked! :)

    It seems (in my case) that to increase the core clock you should increase the shader clock too, like it is linked.... (at least the shader should be equal or double of core clock).

    I've tested at 650/475/1500 with ATITool for one hour without artifacts, the GPU reached 66º celsius but I´m not sure to go further.... I will test now with a real game to check for some artifacts... ATITool could be great but I noticed that the CPU is not pushed up and it stays at max at 32º celsius.... and you should consider that the cooling system in a notebook, the CPU and GPU cooling system (pipes) works in conjuntion...

    Thanks again to everyboby and I will report my results...
     
  18. Morten747

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    Im using the 179.48 driver, and i have overclocked my computer. You can download the driver for every nVidia GPU notebook from http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook_drivers.html

    P.S: The Vista drivers work's for the Windows 7 too, if you have the beta version :)
     
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    after a huge amount of time playing games over the last few months i have found that my particular 9500M GS runs universally stable at

    700 core - 1560 shader - 520 memory

    so i think i may have stumbled upon a good OCing card (extremely so i would imagine, i have done tons of artefact testing, including just playing games and checking for any glitches, and these are my final results).

    But it does seem to reflect the whole difference in the production of these cards and it's quite interesting to see it. Still, i think the laptop will still need to be replaced when dx10 goes mainstream to keep up.
     
  20. King of Interns

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    What 3Dmark06 score @ 1280x1024 resolution do you get? You must be pushing over 5500!
     
  21. apamedvapen

    apamedvapen Notebook Enthusiast

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    This is a fairly old thread, but I can not find any other thread with discussion about this graphic card.
    I have an Acer 6920G with a T5800 CPU and 9500M GS.

    I have undervolted the CPU to 1.18 (from 1.36 according to Everest).

    My 9500M GS overclocks very good, at least compared with everyone else's cards in this thread.
    I currently have it clocked to 702/1782/496 (GPU/shader/memory), and so far it looks as if I can keep going higher, as long as the temperature doesn't get too high. Highest temps I get in Furmark is about 80C, in a room at about 20C.

    What is the highest clocks anyone have ever achieved with this card? I'd like to know how high others have taken their 9500 without melting the card so perhaps I can keep clocking without having to fear having a hole in my room one day when I get home :p
     

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    $immond$ Notebook Consultant

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    I added additional heatsinks and a cryo s cooler. I overclocked mine (with fans off) to 625 1500 410, I cant overclock the ram to well without it crashing, when I get a replacement circuit board for my cooler (I am hoping I can get my fans to work again) I am taking the back cover off exposing the heat sinks and I am going to push for 700Mhz on the core and 1750 Mhz on the shader and 450 Mem, I am not to worried about frying the card in this laptop as it is an Asus POS.

    My next laptop is going to be a solid Toshiba. I refuse to buy another Asus, even there mid end mobos are complete crap and are of poor quality.
     
  23. Amnesiac

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    What is it about Asus that bothers you?

    Have you seen the chart? It shows that Asus is one of the best OEM's in terms of reliability.
     
  24. $immond$

    $immond$ Notebook Consultant

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    7 motherboards from Asus I have boughten over the years have failed. Each in different system and circumstances, each using different ram and processors and ect, if you purchase a low to mid end they suffer from stability problems. (poor drivers support, overheating.) Nothing is of decent quality unless you purchase a highend Asus product there low and mid products are not meant to last very long.

    I gave up on Asus after my P6T-SE motherboard started showing signs of problems with the chipset and USB ports as well as my ASUS M51SN started to fall apart like an 5 year old American car.
     
  25. Lanaya

    Lanaya Templar Assassin

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    I lol'd. "next laptop I buy is gonna be a Toshiba" Asus is in the middle of BUYING toshiba. Lols.
     
  26. $immond$

    $immond$ Notebook Consultant

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    What seriously! thats crap! that cant happen!!!! If that happens it will have to be a SONY or a Dell.
    proof or BS.
     
  27. Lanaya

    Lanaya Templar Assassin

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    http://tinyurl.com/ydf6jlv
     
  28. $immond$

    $immond$ Notebook Consultant

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    How about a serious link Element because the ones I checked where of "speculation" and nothing was definitive "PoinDexter".
     
  29. apamedvapen

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    Interesting about the heatsinks. How did you make them fi? It's really crowded in my laptop, so I wonder if I can add a few too. I have a few leftovers so it's worth a try. Maybe I just have to make them a little smaller and they'll fit.
     
  30. $immond$

    $immond$ Notebook Consultant

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    I just used ram heatsinks which are pretty small, you can get some nice ramsinks for around $10-$20, which help reduce temps, however using a powerful cooler with ramsinks is probably the best solution, exposing them will even cool it better.

    http://unoid.net/casemod/maze4gpu/ramsinks.jpg
    http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data/nnews/2005/3313/File/Ramsink%20-%20400.jpg

    These can work as well as these, however it all depends on the layout of your components, and Element all I can find are rumours of "Asus buying out Toshiba", but rumours are not concrete or definitive. Asus call centres offer very poor customer service on top of things, I cant see Toshiba ever being bought by Asus, Toshiba is well known for quality laptops, televisions and other products.
     
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