Overclocking with nVidia inspector.

http://wccftech.com/asus-unveil-rog-laptop-worlds-fastest-refresh-rate/

*sigh*

World's fastest refresh rate my butt. They've been too busy smelling their own farts to notice they're pretty late to the party. Oh well, I'm all for seeing more 120hz panels.

 

Well, that's kind of mean....

I'm not an idiot, but this machine was the only one in my price range with a 970m.

 

but clevo with 970m is cheaper than asus with 970m?

 

No. He got his after his model was phased out, on a sale on amazon or something. I.E. he bought an old machine because it was cheaper. This happens a lot with ASUS and MSI models; you'll find Haswell-using machines on amazon and newegg on some big sale that are much cheaper than their current models, but people don't get the downsides of the soldered haswell machines or understand that those models were probably created using mSATA drives and not M.2 etc, which means upgrade-ability and expandability is rather low, and it isn't compatible with new tech, etc.

People buying laptops have a large tendency to get bare minimum budgets ($1000 USD or less, or 800 pounds, 900 euroes, etc) and then expect to find something decent, and they'll jump at "good specs" on a sale even if it's last-gen. Not that I'm bashing the OP for his choice specifically; it's simply a trend I notice everywhere.

 

ah ok
as long as it works for him, that's fine then

 

Thankfully the laptop police are here to judge everyone's decisions.

Sent from a 128th Legion Stormtrooper 6P

 

Nothing wrong with cheap and cheerful.. As long that it's actually both.

 

>4xxxHQ cpu
>powerful
u wot?

 

The budget was $1200 or less, I was using an insurance payout to buy a new laptop. It was, IIRC, $1098 and I paid $20-something for expedited shipping and rush processing. I would have had to literally magic up another $400 to get a 970m at the time. I purchased it in January of this year from Newegg.

And here's one of them now.

 

I'm here to judge and ruin CPU paste, and I am all out of paste.

 

Nothing wrong with Asus laptops IMO.. Had a G73JH that lasted 3.5 years++ before I sold it off, never needed repasting, ran cool, I actually miss it now

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I think you missed the entire point of the problem with ASUS: bad QC, QA & support, and terrible anti-consumer designs and business practices.

I keep saying it over and over. We know if you get a good ASUS it's going to last you 3-4 years or more. That's par for the course for the non-lemons. There are simply too many lemons, and if you get a lemon, unless you return it and buy a new one and get a non-lemon, you're going to have hell with RMAs and support giving you crap. Even the OP stated how ASUS support told him to install skylake chipset drivers for his HASWELL notebook. Come on.

 

Its not just ASUS though. All of them are guilty of it. Look at the issues I have had and look at the issues others have had with Sager and Clevo. Nobody is perfect. My problem with ASUS is that they don't let you do anything with the product that you purchased. Even something that should be simple like a repaste is like open heart surgery.

 

Well, I know you've had quite a few issues with your system. Mine isn't perfect either. Clevo ain't perfect at all; we all know this. But in general, people can get their issues resolved without too much harassment. Your case is more of a special one (that I've been following since you started having issues) and I can't look at your experiences and judge that all the masses will experience such levels of ugh in response.

To make things clear, I've seen awful support handling from ALL manufacturers at some point; Dellienware, MSI, Gigabyte, Sager, Mythlogic, Eurocom, whoever there be. I have my own horror stories with Sager too, including them trying to sell my relatives in the US a front panel for some sort of macbook to replace the keyboard on my D900F after finding out they didn't know what the keyboard should look like (I had to use them because they tried quoting me $150 USD to ship the $50 USD keyboard to me, and I didn't have a skybox at the time for a US shipping address). But in terms of people who have issues with QC, QA, support, & warranty flexibility (as you noted), ASUS is without a doubt blatantly top of the charts. Finding someone who has had NO problems dealing with their support for any issue whatsoever is like finding a needle in a haystack.

Granted their machines do not have some ridiculously high failure rate like 50%; enough people buy their machines and get no issues (that they know of anyway), but their rate of generally selling absolute lemons (not something that can be missed in QA testing, like a somewhat bad paste application that pumps out, or whatnot, but like.. half the USB ports being dead. Machine booting to black screen on arrival. Etc etc) is much higher than I've seen for others. But again, even that would be negligible of an issue for them if support was worth a flying moocow.

 

That's my point though. They all have support problems and QA problems. It seems like the more technology advances, the more QA goes down.

 

It's all $$, really.

Buy a Clevo from Falcon Northwest... see how your machine WILL come in perfect working order.

But that's just too much money for pure QA.

 

Yeah I'll pass on Falcon but when you drop almost 5K on a system, QA standards should be top priority. The irony of my P377SM-A being one of the most expensive P377SM-A builds I've seen on the forum and yet /the/ most problematic one I've seen on the forum is not lost on me.

 

I know. I still think you're just haunted.

And that you are Murphy.

 

I'm always confused about the "golden driver" conversations. I've been just using express install for years now and have had zero problems unless it's the rare driver that nearly everyone has problems with. I'm wondering if it's pointing to some other issue or hardware that's on the extreme brink of stability.

Sent from a 128th Legion Stormtrooper 6P

 

Overclocking, running custom vBIOS' and other shizzle tends to make drivers weird