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    Overheating gpu problem

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by wahad, Apr 26, 2008.

  1. wahad

    wahad Notebook Consultant

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    I have acer aspire 5920g with 8600gt 512mb ddr2. When im playin games my display just blinks, go black and then return into game with awful fps... And when im sayin playin games im thinkin that this problem i encounter in every possible game... Gpu temp is around 86 degrees celsious... Is that normal? How can I avoid overheating?
    I noticed this first time in crysis with 3 different drivers and then in cod4, rs vegas 1 and 2, graw2, geow...

    Any help?
     
  2. wahad

    wahad Notebook Consultant

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    Edit: now it even rises to 93c while playin rsv2 :-s...! Is it normal?
     
  3. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    If you are overheating... usually any temp over 90C degrees is bad.

    when was the last time that you cleaned out the fans and vents thoroughly...?

    if never, then thats why.

    1) remove battery
    2) remove/unscrew the panels on the bottom of the notebook to get to fans and vents
    3) use flashlight to look through vents for the dust
    4) go outside, get some compressed air (cans or compressor @ 50 PSI) and give the vents a good airing out all directions (concentrating on the vents)
    5) go get some Q-tips and swab the fan blades and the area around it
    6) then go do a second airing with compressed air (all directions again focusing on the fans and vents) to push out the dust that was dislodged from the Q-tips

    7*) Now go use the flashlight again and look through the vents (shine the flashlight from the fan, you look through the other end) for anymore dust clogs.

    8) Then start up the notebook... and let the fans cycle up (use the Fan Toggle at max speed if your system has it) to push out any other dust that might have been stuck.

    If all goes well you should be able to close up the notebook and...

    you're done.

    *repeat this step until its cleaned out.

    Thats pretty much it. :)

    Just make sure to do this every two-three months... it should take about 15-20min per cleaning if you want to be thorough.

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    Gaming notebooks are a new thing, you must realize that you have to take some extra care of them over typical use notebooks:

    1) Battery: to maintain the longevity of any rechargeable battery
    - you must NEVER overcharge it [especially for long durations of time] by keeping it plugged into AC
    - when it reaches 100% you should unplug it and let it discharge to 5-15%, then plug it back to power
    - OR you can just charge it to 50%+ and remove the battery and store in cool place.. not the fridge [remember to use it occasionally 3-4 time a year to charge and discharge it].

    2.) Heat: to prevent a healthy notebook from overheating
    - ALWAYS use the notebook on a clean, hard & flat surface
    - RECOMMENDED to be used on a notebook cooler... namely the Zalman ZM-NC1000 or ZM-NC2000
    - check your fans underneath occasionally (at least once a month or two) for any dust clogs [clean them out with Q-tips and air cans/compressors]
    - ALWAYS monitor the temps (CPU, GPU, HDD, etc..) to watch for fluctuations, which would indicate overheating by dust usually
    (for Clevo notebooks) use the Fan Toggle to switch all fans to Max Speed when gaming and such.

    By doing these simple things, your entire system will easily last for more than 3 years.
     
  4. wahad

    wahad Notebook Consultant

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    Ummm this laptop is pretty new... I bought it like 3weeks ago... And i've noticed this second day of my ownership when i started gears of war... My laptop is on my leather bed, can that cause temperature rising? Just for the record, max temperature was 94c, couple of mins ago...
    Is there any 3rd party cooler for graphic card?
     
  5. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    if its that new, then you might want to make sure that the vents are not being blocked when gaming.

    And if its not blocked, it might be that the notebook might need a notebook cooler...

    ... or the heatsink on the videocard is not secured... might need to be re-secured and/or re-applied thermal paste.
     
  6. wahad

    wahad Notebook Consultant

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    Aaaand how to do that?
    And what notebook cooler can u recommend me?
     
  7. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    well, if the system was bought under 30 days, I would exchange it to get another system that would have the heatsinks properly secured.

    As for notebook coolers, the best and undisputed after-market ones are:
    - Zalman ZM-NC1000 (for 15.4" and under)
    - Zalman ZM-NC2000 (for 17" and up)
     
  8. WILLY S

    WILLY S I was saying boo-urns

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    Are you serious? You actually leave it on.. LEATHER? If you havn't used it on a table yet then that's your problem! Also you mentioned in your original post that you tried 3 different drivers, Did you remove the old ones with driversweeper first?
     
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    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    The leather bed is a bad place to leave a notebook... especially a performance notebook.

    you have to put it on a flat, clean, HARD surface
     
  10. wahad

    wahad Notebook Consultant

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    I moved it to the glass table now :). And i was opening it this morning and there was nothing to clean... It's as clean as my butt... after bathing :).
    And yes, i was using driver cleaner pro downloaded from guru3d. I tried 174.74, 174.82 and 174.93 and .93 is the most unstable for me. Im atm on .82, vegas 2 havent crashed yet but temperature with this drivers is like the highest, 94c as I mentioned above...
     
  11. WILLY S

    WILLY S I was saying boo-urns

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    Have you tried the official drivers? 167.45 or w/e, same issue with them?
     
  12. wahad

    wahad Notebook Consultant

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    Nope... Only mobility drivers i have found on nvidia site was for 8700m gt... Can u give me link maybe?
    Btw cant remember if i had this problem right after i bought laptop, with stock drivers :-s....
    Ill try 169 series of drivers these days...

    And ill try to take it to official acer servicer in my place coz i still have warranty on it...
     
  13. WILLY S

    WILLY S I was saying boo-urns

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    Laptopvideo2go.com is the only alternative that i know of :( 169 would be worth a look. The servicer is a good idea as those temps will probably damage the gpu alot quicker than normal temps (60-80C) although i have seen some laptops running alot hotter than others.
     
  14. wahad

    wahad Notebook Consultant

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    I know that, but im planning to change this graphic card as soon as 9series mxm II cards hit the market... Ill check with my servicer about this temps tomorrow...

    But i saw that a lot of laptops gpu are going up to 86c durning the playin... When I switch to desktop, my temp falls down to 85c, but in a milisecond... As i said, im using everest 4.00 pro for measuring temps... Is it reliable?

    Btw idle temp is 56-59c
     
  15. andygb40

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    I wouldn't worry too much about the temp. It does seem a little high for a 15.4" laptop, but I get 94-95 all the time while gaming. It's been like that since I got it. The 8600m gt is notorious for getting hot. I have the exact same problem when gaming if I use any driver above 174.16 it crashes after a few minutes then gives me terrible fps when it has recovered. I believe the powermizer is dropping the core speeds down as it "thinks" my GPU is too hot. NVidia claim the safe max operating temp is 120 with the card's limit being 127C. Seems hot for a desktop, but a notebook card is a totally different story as there is hardly any room for air flow it has to make the best of what it gets. There has been a lot of people finding the 8600m GT getting to 110C as "normal".
    I use hwmonitor to keep an eye on my temps. Nice very little program that at least keeps a max temp reading for the duration the program is running. So once I exit a game I see the max temp it reached during the game immediately.
     
  16. wahad

    wahad Notebook Consultant

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    Hmmm thats nice... I remember, when i had 7600gt desktop pc couple of yrs ago and every temp above 85-90c caused textures corruption or restarting whole sistem... And yup, that's my thoughts too about uderclocking when temp reaches certain point... As i said, ill see with servicer if thats normal... 174.82 looks very stable for now, i'll see whats next...
    And buying external zalman cooler is not such a bad idea at all :)...