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    P8285 3DMarks on a GTX680M @ 1037/1200 1.012V , single Mobile card WR?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by mitsuhide, Jul 17, 2012.

  1. mitsuhide

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    Clevo P170HM
    I7-2960XM @ stock
    Clevo GTX 680M 4096MB @ 1037/1200 @ 1.012V
    Driver : 304.79
    Win7 U 64bit

    3DMark11 :

    P8285 3DMarks
    http://3dmark.com/3dm11/3902629

    X2844 3DMarks

    comparing:
    single 7970M @ 1100/1500 = P6900~P7200 3DMarks (3610QM~3920XM 4.8GHz)

    source:
    here




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    compare to the GTX670 @ 1116MHZ/1775MHZ @ 1.175V
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    mitsuhide, Jul 17, 2012
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  2. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    won't believe that OC until someone from the forum does the same...
     
    maxheap, Jul 17, 2012
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    What's the default 'extra' or 'custom' voltage on the 680M? (ie, how much of an increase is 1.012V?)
     
    AlphaMagnum, Jul 17, 2012
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    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    HOLY MOTHER OF GOD.

    That is insane. Shows how good overclocker the 680M really is with the right voltage :eek:

    For those who wonder, the stock voltage of 680M goes all the way to max 0.9870V. So the overclockers above have overvolted it 0.025V more.
    Still a long way up to GTX 670 though since that is running at 1.175V :D
    So yeah, Nvidia can still push out faster GPUs than the 680M while still running relatively cool. From the screenshot above the overclocked
    680M reached 80C max. :D
    685M later maybe?
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 17, 2012
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  5. jaug1337

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    More like

    IN ALL OF THE HOLY THINGS IN THE WORLD

    Is reached desktop 670 level..... score wise
     
    jaug1337, Jul 17, 2012
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  6. mitsuhide

    mitsuhide Notebook Consultant

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    i'm pretty sure that the GTX685M/GTX780M will be the full spec of the 1536sp GK104 core :cool:
     
    mitsuhide, Jul 17, 2012
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    it's impressive, i ask me what is the power consumption of the card ?
     
    Tonrac, Jul 17, 2012
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  8. mitsuhide

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    125W power consumption for the 680M @ 1037 / 1200 @ 1.012v

    MXM3.0b MAX power consumption is 137W according to the MXM-upgrade.com
     
    mitsuhide, Jul 17, 2012
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    Why is everyone shocked about this?! XD

    It's a desktop GTX 670 that's had it's voltage and GPU clocks lowered down. THAT'S IT. Overclocking it back up to the default clocks will allow it to severely surpass the 7970M.
     
    imglidinhere, Jul 17, 2012
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  10. Tonrac

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    Does it mean that a 180W psu could contain such power requirement (GPU 125W + CPU 45w)?

    @imglidinhere: Everyone is shocked because we talk about laptop with a lot of temperature and consumption constraint that doesn't exist in desktop world composed with Tower equipped 2 x 200mm Fans, 1 x 120mm Fan and 800 W PSU.
     
    Tonrac, Jul 17, 2012
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  11. Mobius 1

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    Op, please use spoiler if you post large images

    Btw, 1.012v vBIOS for Dell 680M is available or not?


    The CPU is 55W
     
    Mobius 1, Jul 17, 2012
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    Further proof that GK104 is mid-range :X. GK110 is going to create another universe with its power.
     
    Zero989, Jul 17, 2012
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  13. mitsuhide

    mitsuhide Notebook Consultant

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    MSI GT70 GTX680M (220W PSU)
    P170EM GTX680M (220W PSU)
    M17X R4 GTX680M (240W PSU)

    if you want OC a 680M
    of course you should get a 220W PSU for safety :p
     
    mitsuhide, Jul 17, 2012
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    What most people don't understand is that 680m really is a low end card for a 100w tdp hence why it oc's well. Its like when the core 2 duo came you could overclock a ghz easily because it is a low power consuming cpu.

    Compared to the 675m 100w tdp card the 680m 100w tdp card takes around 65w less so imagine ocing to use that 65w and it should stay similar range psu load to a 675m and you can oc the card by around 50% for free.

    Heck I might get a 680m as it only takes around 149w to game.
     
    nissangtr786, Jul 17, 2012
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  15. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    why? because it is 44.03% OC over base.. never seen before, won't believe until I see a fellow forum member doing the same.
     
    maxheap, Jul 17, 2012
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  16. Cloudfire

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    I`m shocked because not only is it an insane performance increase, its also very cool considering the clocks. Probably around (if not lower) than the 580M :p

    Why don`t you believe it graz? All the pictures of clocks and such look legit :)
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 17, 2012
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  17. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    if it can OC like that, nvidia and resellers are crazy to price it so low, it should be priced twice the amount as of now, seriously, thanks for the good find, but I won't believe until I see it with my own eyes :)
     
    maxheap, Jul 17, 2012
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    you are seeing it with your own eyes?

    I cannot understand what you mean.. if you want real proof go out and try it yourself haha :p
     
    jaug1337, Jul 17, 2012
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  19. nissangtr786

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    nvidia made the 680m a low power card so the 700m series they could increase the 780m probably by 20-30% and sell well.
     
    nissangtr786, Jul 17, 2012
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    Nevermind...
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 17, 2012
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  21. R3d

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    Now all they have to do is drop the price by $200 and it'll be a clear winner.
     
    R3d, Jul 17, 2012
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  22. svl7

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    The second file is a .inf file for drivers.
     
    svl7, Jul 17, 2012
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    As much as I'd like to try, I'm afraid of bricking. This time around I think I'll let someone else be the guinea pig and learn from their mishaps and update mine in a year when it's all been smoothed out. :)
     
    HTWingNut, Jul 17, 2012
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  24. fantabulicius

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    I doubt this score is stable for gaming...

    One thing is super overvolted\overclocked card on 3d 11 another is maintaining that for gaming.(this is also valid for the 7970m by the way)
     
    fantabulicius, Jul 17, 2012
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  25. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    whatever it is, if 680m can pull off 44% OC even for a single time for its life (one full run of 3dmark11), then it is an accomplishment no matter what.

    (any OC is not good for gaming imho)
     
    maxheap, Jul 17, 2012
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    Have you looked at the data? Is the first one the overclocked 680M with the right VBIOS?
    I don`t know chinese, I just found the rar uploaded by the overclocker that did these 3DMark runs :)
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 17, 2012
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  27. Cloudfire

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    Here is some more information (translated).

    He says without FN+1 (without turbo fan I guess?) it will reach maximum 89C in games, and with turbo fan that temperature will greatly go down. He used the P170HM to test btw.

     
    Cloudfire, Jul 17, 2012
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  28. kolias

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    that means with this hell overclock,he can play games stable???? :eek:
     
    kolias, Jul 17, 2012
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    I disagree, any OC that is stable when gaming and does not put the card at crazy temperatures is good in my book.
     
    fantabulicius, Jul 17, 2012
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  30. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    any OC that don't put temp on card is < +2-3fps, does it really worth it?
     
    maxheap, Jul 17, 2012
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    The first one is an untouched Clevo VBIOS.
     
    svl7, Jul 17, 2012
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    Its very stable. He have even uploaded some gameplay screenshots with his overclock. See below :D

    GPU-Z:


    Crysis 2 - Everything maxxed:















    --------------------------------------------------------------------

    Witcher 2 - (Have no idea what the settings are since its chinese and the translation sucks). All I know its without supersampling
    (巫师2评测一阶段：除最高取样关闭外，其他全最高，这里有一项动态物件极限关闭取消限制，打开降低表 ;)















    ----------------------------------------------------------------

    Witcher 2 - No idea what the settings are but I know this is WITH supersampling. Highest settings I guess.
    (测试二之最高取样打开，至今怕是最大挑战。如图： ;)







     
    Cloudfire, Jul 17, 2012
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  33. Cloudfire

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    Hm ok. Thanks for checking it :)
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 17, 2012
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    Oh man you put me in some real troubles..... :D
     
    kolias, Jul 17, 2012
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    Maybe if i sell my hd 6970m,and with the money of 7970m i go for it....
     
    kolias, Jul 17, 2012
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    damn i LOVE how our HM machines still kick butt! take this optimus/enduro/backlit/IB crap EM series! mwahahahaha :p

    ok so back to reality now: would those high 3dmark scores actually also translate into REAL gaming fps? cuz as far as ive seen the 7970M and the 680M are completely on par when it comes to gaming, just that the 680M scores higher in futuremark benches.

    NO fanboy flaming / ranting / pulling out hypotheses out of ur a$$ please, i want either hard facts or silence (so behave cloudfire :p ;) )

    if that 40%+ OC would result in a 40%+ higher fps rate then damn.... pure awesomeness :D
     
    jaybee83, Jul 17, 2012
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  38. littleone562

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    Just received my m18x with 680M SLI. Which BIOS can I install to allow overclocking as the default BIOS does not allow core OC.
     
    littleone562, Jul 17, 2012
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  39. ForestEX

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    ^Speaking of Bios, how high is the risk for bricking your m18x? (im still a total beginner to gaming laptops..but its not like im going to try it without asking and confirming here first.)

    -EDIT-I know this topic isnt about the AW, you wont hear anything else from me on this thread about it, i promise.
     
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  40. littleone562

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    Sadly not sure, it is a hit/miss. Higher chance to brick the card not the m18x.
     
    littleone562, Jul 17, 2012
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    ^ that scares me, last thing i want is for my gpu to keel over on me when im outside of the US...
     
    ForestEX, Jul 17, 2012
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  42. Raidriar

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    Looks like big red has to step it up now. wasn't so sure before, but thats just ground breaking. I don't think a 7970m can touch that territory, not without serious and risky modding.

    Would anybody happen to know if those benches are with PhysX enabled?
     
    Raidriar, Jul 17, 2012
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  43. Wallzii

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    Wrong thread, heh, please delete this!
     
    Wallzii, Jul 17, 2012
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  44. Raidriar

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    like graz'zt said, I'll wait for a forum member here to reproduce those results. This just seems too unbelievable.
     
    Raidriar, Jul 18, 2012
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  45. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    In the side news, we successfully installed a clevo 680m in the new 17" barebone from MSI.
    Actually pau1ow did all the hard part, I just modded drivers on the fly for him.
    You can check MSI sub forum for further info.
    So far seems everything ok, card turbo boosts as well seems :)
    We tested internal 302.74 and newer betas as well.
    Now onto the 16f2!
     
    Kingpinzero, Jul 18, 2012
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  46. littleone562

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    Kingpin how were you guys able to enable the boost?
     
    littleone562, Jul 18, 2012
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  47. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    It was by default once I've modded the last beta driver.
    The clocks keeps ramping up under stress conditions to go back slowly to stock when theres less load, or no load at all.
    :)
    iirc It ramps up to 800+ clocks while benching in 3dmark11.
    The card is still undergoing heavy tests so for now we can't assure everything is working as it should.
     
    Kingpinzero, Jul 18, 2012
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  48. jaug1337

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    Just to all you mods out there.. sorry but really

    FU** LOGIC how the hell is that even possible AND STABLE TOO?!
     
    jaug1337, Jul 18, 2012
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    @svl7,

    Do you think the vbios problem low performanced per MHz is gone on his (He's Luoxia :) )? His score seems to reach the expected zone. In the original post he flashed a Clevo GTX680M into MSI GTX680M.
     
    hackness, Jul 18, 2012
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    I am curious, i ask me how long the card could last before hardware failure with this OC/OV?
     
    Tonrac, Jul 18, 2012
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