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    P8285 3DMarks on a GTX680M @ 1037/1200 1.012V , single Mobile card WR?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by mitsuhide, Jul 17, 2012.

  1. aduy

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    i think he got a gtx 670 desktop bios or something and modded it to think its a 680m then undervolted it. and besides he couldnt have a laptop cpu in a desktop, at least not that one.
     
    aduy, Jul 18, 2012
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  2. long2905

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    Very tempting now. But I will wait for at least one more person to be able to reproduce this result and/or see how long the original poster can keep up with such overvolt and overclock. 20-24FPS in witcher 2 with uber on is out of this world.
     
    long2905, Jul 18, 2012
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  3. pau1ow

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    Where can we get this vbios? :)
     
    pau1ow, Jul 18, 2012
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  4. Cloudfire

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    He probably gets around 20-22FPS in Average or something when all areas are tested. But impressive as hell :)

     
    Cloudfire, Jul 18, 2012
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  5. long2905

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    thanks for that chart cloudfire. I guess I will hold off doing a 2nd playthrough of the witcher 2 till there is a single card that can do 30FPS with uber on lol. Amazing how tech evolves.
     
    long2905, Jul 18, 2012
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  6. mitsuhide

    mitsuhide Notebook Consultant

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    You can rename the GPU name in the INF file
    But how can you change a GTX670 Device ID to a GTX680M? :p
     
    mitsuhide, Jul 18, 2012
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  7. Raidriar

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    vBIOS with modded device id's flashed :p
     
    Raidriar, Jul 18, 2012
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  8. mitsuhide

    mitsuhide Notebook Consultant

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    High probability to make it into a hand plate :p
     
    mitsuhide, Jul 18, 2012
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  9. ryzeki

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    Well, the 680m is a full fledged GTX670 so if conditions allow, it SHOULD reach and even OC past GTX670 clocks no problems.

    I am not shocked, but glad instead, that the card can reach that high. Also surprised because if such clocks are completely stable tempwise, they should have clocked the default GTX680m higher from the get go.

    And no, the Hd7970m can't reach those numbers, those are already GTX670/680 and tahiti territory. Very nice card.
     
    ryzeki, Jul 18, 2012
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  10. long2905

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    So now we have to ponder why nvidia decided to downclock it so low like that?
     
    long2905, Jul 18, 2012
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  11. jaug1337

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    Probably to enable the massively cool temps that it has... this just shows that nVIDIA might surprise the hell out of us if they actually release a 685M this year
     
    jaug1337, Jul 18, 2012
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  12. jaybee83

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    could be cuz not all the cards were stable at those extreme clocks. i mean i guess they would normally go with the smallest common denominator, at which all of the produced cards run stably under any kind of circumstances. either that or they just clocked it enough to be a tad faster than the 7970M and still have more than enough headroom to justify a follow-up 685M :p

    its all about the money.... *sings*
     
    jaybee83, Jul 18, 2012
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  13. long2905

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    A 2500 points increase @.@. God. Yeah i guess if they do decide to release a 685M it would be just a refined or better batch of chips that allow a stable high OC.
     
    long2905, Jul 18, 2012
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  14. Eldaren

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    If those results are real my desktop 7970 is put to shame. It scores around 8500 GPU stock. Can't wait to get my 680m and test it myself.
     
    Eldaren, Jul 18, 2012
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  15. Cloudfire

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    Its quite obvious that they have a lot more juice for future Kepler mobile GPUs yes. Additionally, there will be improved silicon with less current leakage and improved architecture with the 700M series, so we should expect pretty sick performance in the upcoming months.

    Well we already have that, for those who know how to overclock and overvolt their 680M like these guys did :D

    Now, where is that VBIOS? That is something I would like to know. :D


    And another happy message for Alienware owners that couldn`t overclock their Dell 680M previously. Turbo boost we saw in the GPU-Z is now fully functional plus extra stuff.

     
    Cloudfire, Jul 18, 2012
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  16. littleone562

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    waving hi ... i'm on vacation lol

    these clocks are insane. this is faster than a stock desktop gtx 680...so i hope that person has a fire extinguisher beside his laptop lol...

    gratz, even if that person was able to only make it through one stable run of 3dmark, it is still an achievement...i'm impressed

    Sent from my SGH-T989D using Tapatalk 2
     
    SlickDude80, Jul 18, 2012
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  18. Cloudfire

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    Well I found out who have been making the VBIOS to the benchers. I will see if I can retrieve one :)
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 18, 2012
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  19. pau1ow

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    haha looking forward to reading you!
     
    pau1ow, Jul 18, 2012
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  20. Cloudfire

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    Do we have a volunteer? :D
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 18, 2012
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  21. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    exactly, and if these would be stable, nvidia downclocking and selling on the price range of 7970m is a suicide for a company...
     
    maxheap, Jul 18, 2012
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  22. Cloudfire

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    You guys do realize that GTX 680/670 runs @ 1.175V while GTX 680M with this overclock only runs @ 1.012V. Thats a huge difference.

    Thats the reason why it can still run at these clocks fully stable and under 90C. I`m still shocked though :)
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 18, 2012
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  23. Cloudfire

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    BOOM. I got in touch with the creator. He will send me the VBIOS to my email. So we can try it out ourselves to see if we really can achieve these speeds :D

    Anyone want to try? We should have it verified by svl or someone who knows their stuff first if someone unexperienced tries it I guess?
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 18, 2012
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  24. Arestavo

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    For throttling past 70C, do the 680Ms work like the desktop 670/680s and start downclocking their boost?
     
    Arestavo, Jul 18, 2012
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  25. ForestEX

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    ^ so if i ordered the new MSI at this point as opposed to the sager, Id be totally out of luck huh? (unless a vbios is made for/from an MSI GT70, im still totally new to this...)
     
    ForestEX, Jul 18, 2012
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  26. Cloudfire

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    I`m not 100% sure but I believe you risk bricking your GPU by using a different brands VBIOS.
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 18, 2012
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  27. Meaker@Sager

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    Is that a sager vbios or MSI? If sager shoot it my way ;)
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 18, 2012
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  28. svl7

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    Sure, let me know.

    Yeah, you do... It works in a lot of cases, but sometimes the screens stays black and you need to blind flash to get back to normal. In other cases you can't even blind flash anymore since it won't POST and you need a professional recovery. And sometimes it might even kill the card, though that's less likely with MXM cards, rather with customized soldered-on cards.
     
    svl7, Jul 18, 2012
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  29. jaug1337

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    Good luck once you get it.

    And if you make it happen.. praise the lawd to give you power to upload it here before it burns down your place :rolleyes:
     
    jaug1337, Jul 18, 2012
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  30. Cloudfire

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    Meaker: You got your 680M? Congrats man. :)

    I don`t know what VBIOS it is. Still waiting for it. I think OP used a MSI 680M but used a Clevo VBIOS. It goes against what I said about using other brands VBIOS though, so I don`t know.

    I will post it tomorrow and then svl and the folks can take a look at it before people testing it out :)

    EDIT: I see svl is here. I`m confused by your message. Is it worth the risk or is it a big gamble by using Clevo VBIOS on a MSI and vice versa?
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 18, 2012
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    I can't say... I did a lot of cross-flashing and experienced a lot of difference results, as mentioned above. I had several cards which worked fine with some vbios files of other vendors, and cards which didn't POST anymore afterwards and had to be reprogrammed outside of the notebook.

    So yeah... it might work fine, it might not, I can't promise anything. I know the Clevo 660m works with a nice variety of different vbios files of other vendors, but with some you won't get any picture at all. Though it still POSTs.
     
    svl7, Jul 18, 2012
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  32. hackness

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    I was reading the original post, he mentioned flashing the QS MSI GTX680M modded vbios onto the Clevo GTX680M (OP didn't know Luoxia's vbios is a MSI and he flashed onto his Clevo card... but it didn't brick and now result in this 3DMark11 score LOL), also the modded vbios seems optimized when it is on OP's Clevo card, performed as expected at such clock. OP also mentioned that without Fn+1 the gaming temp tops out at 89C, and under stress test it can reach 92C, it seems like Fn+1 is a must at such clock. 220W power brick can handle this without a sweat.
     
    hackness, Jul 18, 2012
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  33. Cloudfire

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    I got the VBIOS in my posession as we speak :cool:

    I tried opening the ROM with Nibitor but I only get "error parsing" and "couldnt find clockrates". Is there any way I can explore this VBIOS file other than using Nibitor? I selected Nvidia 600 series, but it doesn`t work

    EDIT: And "the current BIOS device id is unknown for Nibitor"
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 18, 2012
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  34. mitsuhide

    mitsuhide Notebook Consultant

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    Those numbers are modified by WinHEX not Nibtor
     
    mitsuhide, Jul 18, 2012
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    Yeah I really have no clue about this. Thanks :p
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 18, 2012
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  36. Cloudfire

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    OK tried WinHex. Did absolutely nothing for me :D

    //Abandon hope all ye who enters :p
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 18, 2012
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  37. jaug1337

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    Hmm yeah, it's slightly harder then one would assume
     
    jaug1337, Jul 19, 2012
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    Basically there is some check somewhere or some ratio that must be kept or two values that must be raised together to let the core overclock more properly.

    By looking a bios that allows overclocks we can see what else has to be changed rather than just the core values.

    Please send me the bios cloud.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 19, 2012
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  39. Cloudfire

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    "Saltius" from this forum is the one who made this VBIOS so all credits goes to him

    *I TAKE ABSOLUTELY NO RESPONSIBILITY IF YOU BRICK YOUR SYSTEM/GPU*

    Allright guys. I have spoken with the VBIOS creator and the guy who actually scored the 8500 in GPU score, and I think I have everything clear right now.

    This VBIOS is actually a MSI VBIOS but the guy who scored 8500 used it on a Clevo P150HM with a CLEVO 680M. So this VBIOS should work on both MSI and Clevo 680Ms. For Alienware users, I wouldn`t recommend it, since it might brick your GPU.

    This VBIOS will clock your GPU to 902MHz and your GDDR5 to 1200MHz, and the GPU will recieve extra voltage, but to reach the P8200 you will need to use an overclocking software (MSI Afterburner etc) and overclock your GPU by additional 135MHz and the GDDR5 additional 200MHz.

    The guy who reached this score also used 304.79 GTX680M NVCV.INF (modified) but it is only for P170HM models. I\m not shure why, since he used a P150HM to overclock the card. So maybe this INF file gives the 680M the extra juice to reach such high scores? Im still not shure.

    As always, there is certain risks involved by using custom made VBIOS, so you gotta make shure you know what you are getting in to. But based on everything so far, it looks like this overclock is stable

    If anyone is interested I can send you the VBIOS and the INF file if anyone want to see how their 680M will perform overclocked :)

    *I TAKE ABSOLUTELY NO RESPONSIBILITY IF YOU BRICK YOUR SYSTEM/GPU*
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 20, 2012
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  40. Cloudfire

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    Just an update:
    I sent the VBIOS to someone in this forum so that they can test it out themselves to see if its really working and that its safe. Will send out to you other people once we see the results :D
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 20, 2012
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    Meaker@Sager, Jul 20, 2012
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  42. ForestEX

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    ^... thats 3dmark11?.. whats the difference between the X and the P for scores? (still a novice here, apologies.)
     
    ForestEX, Jul 20, 2012
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  43. Meaker@Sager

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    X score = 1080p and extreme detail settings and is one of the most GPU intensive apps out there.

    P score = 720p and performance detail settings.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 20, 2012
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  44. long2905

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    long2905, Jul 21, 2012
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  45. ahmadmud

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    nice score Meaker, can you run it on vantage Performance vantage too?
     
    ahmadmud, Jul 21, 2012
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    Cloudfire, Jul 21, 2012
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    Ya i just saw it, it is really amazing, so what exactly did the modded vbios change, just allow voltage increase?
     
    ahmadmud, Jul 21, 2012
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  48. Meaker@Sager

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    It stopped the clocks from bouncing up and down erratically, some power limit programmed in it was hitting into.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 21, 2012
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  49. mitsuhide

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    any vantage scores?
     
    mitsuhide, Jul 22, 2012
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