Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
Since MrYMan's chart for 3DMark 05 score for various laptops died long ago, I tried to start a similar thread.
Please note :
1 - I might not be able to put all the info here.But I will do my best.
2 - To contributers : Please post the data according to the given pattern.
CPU / RAM(size/Bus speed) / HDD(size/RPM) / GPU(name/v-ram/clock (if OC'd or underclocked) / Screen(glare or glossy/Size/Resolution) / Battery(No of Cells/Max life/Life on gaming) / Price in USD / 3DMark 05 & 06 / PCMark 05
3 - Please make sure you have the latest and the most stable drivers.
ASUS G1 : C2D 2.0GHZ/2x1GB - DDR2-667/160GB - 5400RPM/GeForce Go 7700-512MB-GDDR3/Glare - 15.4" - 1680x1050/8 cells - 2:37/1800$/4,247- 2,389/4,727
Thanks for your help.
Edit : Now the laptops, based on their 3dmark score have been split into 4 categories : (Extreme performance , High Performance , Medium Performance , Low Performance)
Some info and clarifications :
1 - No DELL M70 laptops have 7800GTX, but they support modular GPU boards (which is rare) , so some people have upgraded the Quadro FX card with a GeForce Go.(Due to it's extremely high TDP, you have to underclock and undervolt the GPU to be able to use it)
2 - The GPU's can be split into these two main categories - based on what they are tuned to do:
a.Realtime Scene Rendering : Good for games.Like nVidia GeForce and ATI Radeon.
b.Static Scene Rendering : Good for things like Maya, 3D studio Max.Like Quadro FX and ATI FireGL.
The Quadro and FireGL models are mostly based on some GeForce and Radeon models(for example Mobility Quadro FX 1500 is based on GeForce Go 7900GS.Only with different drivers and v-bios)
3 - For the (n+1)th time : You can rarely find laptop that support upgradeable GPU's MXM and AXIOM.(due to their size and cost and other problems).But there are some laptop motherboards with sockets for GPU which allow you to replace the GPU with itself only (for repair purposes).There are also some rare laptops with daughter boards containing the GPU,like E1705, they are not MXM or AXIOM but are upgradeable.
For more info go here.
4 - The X2300 GPU is not DirectX 10 compliant.It's just a revised X1300.
Important notes :
1 - The 3DMark05 Scores are on @ 1024x768 and the 3DMark 06 scores are on 1280x1024 (they are different at different resolutions) if any of them are irrelevant, please tell me.
2 - The overclocking of laptops with similar specs might be different. ( I give absolute no warranty, so proceed at your own risk) (you can rarely come across laptop's which their motherboards allow CPU overclocking.)
3 - The 3DMark05/Price is a measure for the gaming experience for budget,it obviously does not take many factors like Build Quality and features in consideration.
4 - A ±150 difference in 3DMark score is within the error range of the test.Also the driver version will affect the performance.
Some performance tips :
1 - Many people think that buying a powerful CPU will make for a weak GPU.This is not right [it will make a little difference with integrated GPU's].For example an ASUS W3J [which has a Mobility Radeon X1600] with a Core 2 Duo 2.0GHz gives equal gaming performance for pretty much everyone of the current games to a W3J with a Core Duo 1.66Ghz.You should note that the CPU will not be able to assist a dedicated GPU in any way.The only way that we would have a CPU as a bottleneck for the GPU is on the Current [desktop] G80 GPU's.
2 - A good way to increase the gaming experience in laptops is to upgrade the RAM to the maximum of 2GB.Currently there will be very very little difference with memories higher than 2GB.And if you buy 4GB of RAM,you'll have to upgrade to an X64 edition of windows which might be troublesome for many people.(note : due to the nature of 3DMark05 test you will not notice a difference between the score of the same laptop with 1GB or 2GB of memory.)
3 - A very important thing to take into account is the memory bandwidth.For 7900/7800/X1900/X1800 GPU's the optimal bandwidth is 256-bits.While it's 128-bits for 7700/7600/X1700/X1600 (some acer laptops have X1600 GPU's with only 64-bit wide memory bus.causing a performance hit).
4 - Some laptops like the Core Duo series (not Core 2 Duo) of MacBook pro had their X1600 GPU's underclocked,which greatly reduced it's 3D graphics potential, but just as the list indicates the Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro's have their GPU's clocked at the standard or slightly lower than that.(Just as the list indicated the Z84p has it's GPU underclocked).
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Sources other than NBR :
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Asus-A8JR-Notebook.2975.0.html(for ASUS A8Jr)
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7900GSX for the win , thats why the e1705 is so worth it.
Intel Core Duo T2300/ 1GB RAM 533MhZ/ 80GB 5400RPM HD/ ATi x1400 OC (526/450)(Omega 7.1)/ 15.4" Glossy Screen 1280x800 / 6 Cell Battery 2.5 Hours Max / $1300 as of July 2006/ Currently 2537 3dmark05 (max 2605 on warcat 6.9 o/c 533/450) -
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540 points in Acer Aspire 1522LMi with geforce go 5700 64Mb in 3dmark2005
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Just a little problem, at which format should I post the table, in excel (I'm currently using it) , it's twice as wide as the page...
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No, it's picture will be big, I will be forced to attach a .xls file
BTW , can the Quadro 1500/2500/3500 be softmodded to it's gaming model. ( i know they will never be the same but it'll be better for me (note : currently Tehran's market is being drained out of every single descent laptop with proper gaming GPU's) -
Sorry to be slightly off-topic here but I also wondered the same thing about the how the Quadro (specifically, the Quadro FX 1500M) compared with the corresponding gaming card (specifically, the GeForce 7900 GS), and read various differing opinions about it.
I'm no expert, so take my comments with a grain of salt, but so far, I have to say that I don't believe there's any significant difference in the gaming capabilities of the quadro and the geforce. For what it's worth, benchmarkwise, the Quadro FX1500M scores essentially the same as the GeForce 7900GS (even a little higher in that test, though I doubt the difference means anything).
I don't know what detailed hardware/bios differences there might be, or what tweaks -- if any -- the notebook manufacturers put in, but my understanding is that nVidia uses exactly the same drivers for quadros and geforces. You can force the installation of the most recent nVidia drivers on a quadro by using a modified installation information (INF) file, available at LaptopVideo2Go, for example. Slightly older nVidia drivers weren't properly compatible with my quadro and the most up-to-date ones worked fine but were no better in gaming than the ones supplied by the manufacturer, so I have stuck with the original certified drivers.
The flip side of this is that the quadro is a couple of hundred dollars (?) more expensive than the geforce (I'm not sure of the exact pricing on the mobile GPUs), and you're not getting any return on that extra cost for purely gaming purposes (and you could wonder how much return, beyond guaranteed support, you're actually getting on professional applications also).
Also, I guess you can't really complain too much if the quadro should show up with some sort of incompatiblity in some games. Not that all (or most?) games guarantee compatibility with mobile GPUs anyway; but I suppose you'd be less likely to find a solution for any problems that did arise with a quadro than with a standard geforce if installing updated drivers didn't turn out to be enough to fix it. -
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Well,finally uploaded the picture
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PCMark-3DMark05/06 scores for the current laptops.
Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by mujtaba, Jan 17, 2007.
