PS3 vs PC

Graphic wise, which gaming platform has the best picture quality, PS3 or a desktop PC with the fastest video card?

 

Desktop pc? Hands down, with a great pc, the pc will kick the ps3's ass and leave it in the dirt.

However, nothing beats the pick and play quality in a console system. And its easier to get chicks to play with a console than a pc.

 

A good enough will beat the PS3 easy. you have to buy a $2000 to get the best picture quality from a PS3 anyway; most people don't have high res HDTV's. heck, any PC with a new monitor and a current gen could produce a better image than a PS3; you might get a slideshow on anything less than high end though.

 

definitely a pc. the ps3 has the nvidia RSX gpu with 256MB of GDDR3 memory which is actually equivalent to the geforce 7 series.

 

Approximately which card in the series performance-wise?

 

Put it this way: PCs will always be more advanced than consoles. period.

 

I think that it was a 7800gtx...

 

really? then how come ps3's are WAY better at folding@home than any consumer pc?

 

the NSX lies somewhere between the 7600GT and the 7800GTX.

Here's more info on the PS3 gpu

 

Well, you took it totally out of context. See, I can do the same thing and say PCs have better browsers, and more HD space.

 

the 7800gtx has a 110nm chip. The NSX is a 90nm.
The NSX basically has the core/ memory speed and bandwidth of the 7600GT but with higher pixel fill rates similar to the 7800gtx

 

I use PS3 with a 1080p HDTV, and my above average desktop produces better graphics, however I am getting away from gaming on a computer, and for quick game when you friends come over for beers nothing is better than a console.

 

There aren't really comparable. To have a PC beat PS3, you need to spend more than 800-1000$ (atleast) on the pc, compare that to a 400$ PS3.

It boils down to what your needs are. If you just want to play games, buy the Ps3, it'll be future proof, five or so years worth of gaming for 400$. With PC you have to shell in around 200$ every year to keep it working.

 

PC,
Graphics have no limits on PC.
Resolution is only limited to how much $$ you have.
Perfect control for EVERYTHING, you can use a mouse/keyboard for FPS's, or an Xbox360 controller, or dual shock controller for PC for other games..
You can get a well equipped PC that will EASILY beat out a PS3 for about $700 or under. pc in this price range might look like this --> (HD3850, E4400, 2GB PC6400, 500GB HDD, DVD/RW, 650i mobo, 450w PSU) if you build it yourslef.

PS3,
RSX, regaurdless that it's only as powerful as a 7800GTX in raw performance, ALL games are coded SPECIFICALLY on that platform which easily adds at LEAST 2x the amount of performance over an actual 7800GTX
It can process the F@H so good ONLY because F@H can fully utilize the CELL CPU, which IS infact far superior to even current PC CPU's.

PCvsPS3? PC, hands down...

 

PC is far more powerful and superior to xbox360 or ps3. Dont make me laugh. With DX10 out now its is leaps ahead of PS2 or the 360.

 

A desktop computer.

Why is this even a question?

 

Having both a PS3 and a gaming PC, I can assure you that the PC currently has only a single title that easily surpasses the graphical quality of the best PS3 games (Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Heavenly Sword, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue) and that one game is Crysis. Knowing how poorly Crysis plays at the highest settings (read: unplayable unless you have $1800 worth of graphics cards) I'd say the PS3 is the better choice at the moment.

Oh, and the PS3 GPU is the RSX. NSX is the name of a sports car produced by Honda.

Once DX10 takes off and devs start actually taking advantage of it, I suspect this will turn around. Then again, FFXIII, MGS4, and KillZone 2 might have something to say about that

 

im getting one after xmas i think

i just like the security that im not upgrading my GFX card every year or so....that i can play alot of games for a long time without problems.

 

Exactly. Plus Blu-ray movies look amazing if you have an HDTV to watch them on.

 

that too....a stand alone blu ray player is about $500 to $600 so you get a pretty good deal.

 

It depends on the game. RTSes and any FPS will play better on a PC. No controller will outdo the keyboard and mouse in these genres.

The PC will ALWAYS be the premier gaming platform. Consoles will always be compared to the PC. Never the other way around.

And people don't realize, the $400 PS3 needs a decent TV to display it's graphics. SO it's true cost is higher. It's like saying you can get a PC for $500 if you don't factor in the monitor and GPU.

 

Ok what about a ps3 and a gaming notebook? Who holds the title there?

 

a gaming notebook

 

Ps3 vs pc? what! is that supposed to be a joke? the ps3 can't even keep up with the 360 and you want to compare it to a high-end pc!!
let's put it that way: sony's been lying to us about the ps3 and it's capabilities, the ps3 is nowhere as powerful as sony claimed, heck it can't even match the 360, and all those mythos about the ps3've already vanished..in case you still don't know..it's all about that blue-ray player

 

someone else said that with games being coded for it directly, it'll still do around 2X the performance of the 7800, and that not even mentioning that ALL system resources are directed at the gpu

i dont think its far to compare the two (pc and ps3), there will never be a time will both are working in the same environment, and of course, a pc will always win in the long run, but at what expense, the 9800gtx will probably go for atleast the price of the ps3 when it comes out, but thatll be in about a year correct?

the only thing console lose out on is the crappy gamepads (mouse=accuracy) and the fact that they can not be upgraded

 

Indeed. There are certainly genres that play best on one platform, and PC probably has the overall advantage there. However, just as you can hook up a gamepad to a PC, you can hook up a keyboard and mouse to the PS3.

Perhaps. I don't have a crystal ball so I'm not going to make any blanket statements including phrases like "always" or "never" but we can look at the trends and see that console gaming is out-pacing PC gaming in terms of sales, and game development. There are very few games that are exclusive to one format or the other now (aside from RTSes which tend to be PC-exclusive due to their control scheme).

Two sides of the same coin. You do need to invest some serious money in either platform to get the best gaming experience.

Just for gaming? PS3. Gaming notebooks are a joke, imho. Huge waste of money for nowhere near the performance that desktops offer. I'm sure that will be an unpopular opinion on a notebook forum but that's fine by me

Have fun spending $3000 for a 12+ lb brick that gets half an hour of battery life, runs hot enough to cook an egg, and isn't half as fast as a desktop that costs half as much

Show me the 360 game that stands up to any of this graphically:
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
Heavenly Sword
Killzone 2
Little Big Planet

edit: added Little Big Planet, can't believe I forgot it in the first place.

Of course, you would know this if you had ever touched a PS3.

You can't draw a direct parallel like that because of the different system architecture, and what a closed platform means to game development. With a closed platform, game developers are able to extract more performance from relatively less hardware compared to what they can do on the PC side, because with PCs you have to support a wide range of hardware if you hope to sell in any volume and make some money.

Correct. Don't forget that games developed for any console will also continue to advance as time goes by. What a developer can achieve in their first attempt at a game for the console usually pales in comparison to what they can achieve by the end of the console's life cycle, with several games under their belts in between. The more they work with the development tools and the hardware, the better they get at extracting the most performance from that hardware, while also working around the hardware's short-comings.

True. However, many games are now including USB keyboard+mouse support for PS3 (and XBox360, I presume) so that limitation can be overcome. Also, the fact that the hardware is fixed over the life span of the console is actually of benefit to developers and gamers, for the reasons mentioned in the above block of text. Again, the longer you work with any set of hardware, the better you get at it.

 

I have PS3 + X360 + Wii + my laptop

So i really dont care

But if i want to choose

X360 (many many games)

 

i wasnt saying that its better to get a computer then a PS3. the question was which is more powerful and the answer to that is a pc.and it doesnt take a huge 12-15 pound notebook to run games better than the ps3

 

LUCKY GUY

 

you could barely play Crysis on medium settings on a ps3 if it ever was remade on the ps3

 

If Crysis were ported to a console, it would be extensively modified to run well on the hardware.

 

Prove it. Show me some screenshots & provide frame rates that are available for both platforms.

 

well i dont have a PS3

 

I have both, and I can assure you that the PS3 is currently superior to all but the most expensive PCs.

 

I have played on PS3 .... i have to say ...the graphics are poorer compared to high-end configs on PC...

Consoles are made for normal people...just plug n play...so emphasis is on 'Good enough' graphics ...

PC Gaming is for people who have a deep understanding of computing.

 

Graphically wise Gears of War, Assasin Creed, Call of Duty 4, Mass Effect they are gorgeous to look at on xbox360. Especially Mass Effect god it's another master piece from BioWare, a MUST have title so fun and addicted.

I know this is ps3 vs pc but it's more like console vs pc (again) .

Having played Gears of War on PC and xbox360 I can say the textures on xbox360 is blurrier and the one on pc is more realistic, detailed on highest settings. But personally it's hard to tell in fast action because opponents gonna shoot you down when you pause for 1 sec lol

PS: I like xbox360 controller better it's more ergonomic, I actually prefer playing GoW on xbox360 to mouse + keyboard on pc. The D-pad design making weapon switching so much intuitive and swift.

 

I'm what you call a true gamer. I own a Xbox 360, PS3 (original), Nintendo Wii and a mid range PC. I can assure you the PC wins with just about every game. Texture wise the PC smokes the PS3 and 360. That's if you have a solid graphics card.

The closest system to rival a PC currently is the Xbox360. As the CPU's get faster as well as graphics cards the PC will lead them all. Keep in mind that when a console is designed the manufacturer takes a snapshot of where a PC will be a couple of years in the future. By the time the system is released the PC will have caught up to it and surpassed it.

One other thing that I favor when playing games on a PC is that the are usually deeper and are more modable than the console version and the addons are usually free. Most of my games on my PC are either Flight Sims, Racing Sims, RTS or TBS games. I have not found a console to give me an equal experience yet.

The consoles have their place but I will always view the PC as the better platform.

 

I've been playing Crysis and while it gives my system a workout and I have to turn down some settings there is no game on any console that can equal it even if you included Gears of War and Uncharted: Drakes Fortune.

The graphics, lighting and physics in Crysis are amazing even when you turn down some of the settings. I also love the fact that the new games are using the Xbox360 controller.

 

smells like a ps3 fan , first off, don't mention games that havn't been released yet (killzone 2 and other one, sorry i've never heared of it before), on the 360 you get gears of war, bioshock and mass effect and these are games i played on the 360 even though i don't have one( friend of mine has one).

but can mention one game that is available on both consoles and looks and plays better on the ps3? latest reviews i've read suggest that games like assasin creed, orange box and pro evolution soccer 2008 play almost like slide shows....so don't tell me you don't know that

and Btw i'm a pc gamer and think that pc gaming is the best, before you accuse me of being a 360 fan

 

I look at it this way. Practically any FPS is, and will always be better on PC then a console. Otherwise, I'll more then likely get a game, racing, action/adventure, etc. for my PS3.

 

I haven't seen a PS3 in action yet (I imagine I might buy one some time next year, once it's built up a decent games catalogue), but I do love my XBox 360.
I used to be a die hard PC gamer, but I find myself rather loving having my ass planted in a nice comfortable couch in front of a big TV when I play games - I already spend most of the day working in front of a PC.
And while mouse and keyboard are definately the winners in a few game genres, I'll take a gamepad in most others any day of the week (you can do that with some PC games as well of course). Much more comfortable and relaxing - again particularly when you're already spending too many hours destroying your wrists with mouse and keyboard.

The most powerful PC I've owned was my last (fried mainboard at the moment) desktop PC - Core 2 Duo E6600, 2 GB RAM, Geforce 7900 GTO (the GTO model was a low priced "limited edition" 7900 GTX running at lower clock speeds, it proved quite a bit faster than the GT in many tests), and while the only game I've really had the opportunity to compare directly between the two platforms is Oblivion, my XBox 360 definately appears to have the edge there - even though it's not exactly the smoothest 360 game out there.
Alright, it's running at 1280x720 rather than the 1440x900 I was using on my PC, but the 360 version still doesn't suffer the fairly severe framerate drops I would often get on my PC in dense forest or grass areas with all settings near max. And it looks just as good, with the possible exception of lower resolution textures and slightly downscaled vegetation (both of those are purely speculation though, based on what some other games have done - as far as I can recall the two versions look practically identical).

I've just played through Assassin's Creed and Mass Effect, and while the latter (best game I've played this year) is unfortunately suffering from frequent framerate issues and texture pop-in (apparantly the Unreal Engine 3 and the XBox 360 don't always get along too well - I think there have been similar issues in a few other games based on that engine), Assassin's Creed looks so utterly fantastic and runs so silky smooth (supposedly not quite as smooth on the PS3) that I'm having a bit of a hard time imagining the desktop PC described above pulling that off in the same flawless manner (I had to turn down a few settings in Bioshock for instance, to avoid occasional framerate drops - I haven't yet played the 360 version for comparison though).

In any case, there's obviously no arguing that a high end PC is more powerful than a PS3/360, but for now and probably for at least another year or two to come, console games running on those two platforms can certainly look utterly fantastic, and that's good enough for me. Particularly when you factor in the couch, the pad and the 40" HDTV I'm buying next month (and yep, I know you can obviously set up a modern PC for a similar approach to gaming, but I imagine few people actually bother doing that).
As has already been pointed out by others in this thread, you also have to consider that a direct hardware comparion is very difficult to do. Consoles use entirely different architectures, and the fixed nature of those also means that developers will likely be able to push them almost beyond belief a couple of years down the line (I'm obviously still not suggesting they will be a match for PCs by then).
Just look at some PS2 games from the last couple of years. Sure, they look severely outdated, but compare them to the first several generations of games on that five, six(?) year old platform, and it's sometimes difficult to imagine how the hell some game developers manage to squeeze that much performance out of such an old system.

You rarely see that happening in the same way with PC games. There's always new faster hardware just around the corner, so developers aren't forced or at least compelled to squeeze every last drop out of what they got - or already had several years back.

 

Because the cell processor of the PS3 uses 8 cores at 3.2ghz and tear up the thing like nothing... it uses 100% of the power... on a computer you do other things at the same time etc... and I think it uses the RSX too...

 

Try Uncharted: Drake's Fortune on a nice tv. Then say that.

I agree.

RealWorldTech - give that a read. Come back when you can converse with anyone from that site, then we'll have an e-pen0s discussion.

 

You'll note I mentioned Crysis is ahead of anything else out there. But remind me again - what does it cost to run Crysis and make it look that much better than anything else out there? Sorry, but I don't have the $1800 to spend on graphics cards alone to make that worth my while, nor a time machine to buy a couple GF9800 GTXs in 2-3 months.

Well hello to you too If you'll read all my posts, I'm sure you'll find I'm anything but.

Why not? There are gameplay videos of LBP, and KZ2 is far enough into development to discuss its potential graphical fidelity - there are plenty of screenshots for the game.

Yeah, Gears does look good. Makes me wish I had a 360 as well to enjoy it.
Still think I'm a "PS3 fan"

Another good one. Still haven't played it on PC yet, don't want to have any of that securom junk on my system and I'm not one to pirate so I guess we're back to the 360 again

That one looks good too. I'll have to do a PS3 for 360 swap with one of my co-workers some time to get a chance to play these games, that'd be fun.

No, I can't, but I haven't played a game on both consoles yet so I can't really judge that. Assassin's Creed looks about the same on both, and depending on your preference for color saturation, you may prefer one console's implementation of the game over the other's.

Well, I haven't heard about any performance issues except with the Orange Box, and we can thank Valve for not investing any resources into that project for any short-coming there, at least if you ask me. They did farm out the port to EA, afterall. EA isn't exactly known for creating the best-performing software on the market

Not about to accuse you of anything. Like I said, I used to consider myself a 360 fan before I bought my PS3, and I'd still like to have one.

 

PC wins hands down not just on Graphics but on choice, value and compatibility.

Here in Europe games like Drake are being sold for over $100 a piece. Talk about b****-slapping the consumer.

PC all the way.

 

Why don't you also mention the exorbitant hardware cost of PCs while you're discussing the price of PS3 games. Afterall, if a game costs $100, I'm sure a good graphics card isn't cheap, not to mention all the other components.

 

You make a lot of good points. However, the OP's question was which platform has the best graphics overall. Obviously, a high-end gaming desktop PC will smoke out any console.

Bottom line:

- Consoles are very good value for money.

- Desktop PC's have the most power and flexibility.

- Laptops are by far the most expensive gaming platforms, but offer portability to people like myself who have to move around a lot.

 

Quoted for truth.

I was going to say something along the lines of PC gamers being more of the loner type of gamer, whereas with a console you can play with many real friends.

I have a PS2 at the moment, but will get PS3 when GTA4 comes out.

 

i never get why peeps always say that racing is for consoles

on PC, you can hook up a wheel, get those gaming chairs with shock, and pedals

how does a console beat that?

RPG i think is both. no preference for mouse and KB or controller.

but the good thing is that you can hook up controller to a PC rarely if ever the other way around.



i pretty much hate the PS3

is a piece of junk, but it is good value. you get a blue ray player

ever heard of oblivion?


hellgate london the reason why you can't judge a game by its gameplay vid

 

PS3 is excellent... look at games that arecoming out... FINALLY good quality

I just got my PS3 today... and only with Tallageda nights and Something Madden Football crap (ima soccer guy lol)

I also am going to try to hook up my wireless kb+mouse (logitech S510) to it

I am going to play around with the remote play

I will be trying out downloads (PS HOME, F@H etc...)

Truly the PS3 rocks!!! Xbox 360 is cool and stuff... but it runs out of features and it gets old... ps3 always has new things coming and features evolve (no paying...) and 3rd party apps (F@H, PS HOME *yes not directly w.e* etc...)