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    Pascal: What do we know? Discussion, Latest News & Updates: 1000M Series GPU's

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by J.Dre, Oct 11, 2014.

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    TRUMP for President 2016!
     
    HTWingNut, Mar 10, 2016
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    Perhaps a little more likely than PASCAL in 2016? :confused: :cool: :p :D :eek: :oops: :rolleyes: o_O
     
    hmscott, Mar 10, 2016
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    God bless you all if that happens...
     
    Ionising_Radiation, Mar 10, 2016
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    Bingo! :)
     
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    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    I'll just say if you sat down and spent some time looking at TSMC's past failures, and how they just seem to find some way to screw up every node since 40nm, and how their roadmaps keep getting changed year after year, you'll have much less faith in TSMC than you do currently.

    For the record I don't have any exclusive sources, and I still believe Ethrem when he says TSMC screwed up again, because sadly that's they do and what they're best at.
     
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    I don't have any faith in TSMC. I was asking Ethrem to share his source because he's mentioned it a dozen times now and always says he can't share a source.

    You are all taking things out of context. It wasn't meant to be offensive or anything...

    My apologies to anyone who was offended, but it was meant to be frank humor.
     
    J.Dre, Mar 10, 2016
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    I hear ya. Very little anyone knows for sure, but someone constantly stating unsourced rumors just gets old quick. I don't doubt that he has some evidence or third hand information but without some sort of backup it's hard to take seriously. Honestly stating what he knows wouldn't do anything against him because it sounds like third hand and he's not bound by any NDA or an employee of the company.
     
    HTWingNut, Mar 10, 2016
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    Wish you would reconsider. There are members here that like to hear your comments especially
    in speculation threads.
     
    AlwaysSearching, Mar 10, 2016
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    Considering its TSMC we are talking about, I would assume they screwed up... somehow and instead ask for proves they DIDNT screw up.
    The second possibility is far less imo.
     
    tgipier, Mar 10, 2016
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    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    Pretty much. When it comes to TSMC, I just assume they already screwed up (pre-screwed up? :p) until I see reliable evidence to the contrary.
     
    n=1, Mar 10, 2016
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    When you have a source, you make sure they don't get revealed. Pascal will show up this year... I'm ducking out of the thread. The Chinese leaks will be coming shortly. Prepare yourselves...
     
    Ethrem, Mar 11, 2016
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    There's also loads of options coming soon with external graphic amplifiers, looks like it's becoming more & more viable as time goes on - provides an element of future proofing too, through ability to upgrade with later desktop GPUs for 'cheap'. This for instance: http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-xconnect-external-gpu-technology-for-radeon-graphics.html
     
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    Get outta town! ;-)
     
    Robbo99999, Mar 11, 2016
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    Maybe ethrem is a trader that spread rumor in order to make the TSMC stock price fall.
    Then, he can buy some stock at a very low price, with his millions dollars he already have, and when nvidia will announce pascal coming without any problem, make a great capital gain ...
    With this money, he can destabilize the international financial system, this will start the third world war and he will become the master of the world (or the supreme guide) by his army victory .... but that is another story.

    We just have to pe patient, wait and see
     
    Tonrac, Mar 11, 2016
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    That's more like it. :D

    He's probably a corporate spy or full of crap. That's what I was trying to determine. But he pinky-swore not to tell. :(
     
    J.Dre, Mar 11, 2016
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    Like i said before, we just have to wait. When the time comes, every super-villain unveil their plan in a demonic laugh ;)
     
    Tonrac, Mar 11, 2016
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    So how will the 1080 compare to 980Ti?
     
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    I don't know, but I would guesstimate the following:

    I think from my memory that 980ti is about 30% faster than 980, therefore factor = 1.3
    1080 likely to be about 75% faster than 980, therefore factor = 1.75

    1.75/1.3 = 1.35, therefore GTX 1080 might be about 35% faster than 980ti, that would be my guess.
     
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    30% - 40% is a fair estimate, assuming the 1080 is as powerful as we expect.

    It could be more or less powerful. We won't know for sure until leaks hit.
     
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    I think the question isn't what could GTX 1080 do, but how much performance would lord nVidia spare upon us lowly peasants.
     
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    Definitely, that's why I guesstimated 75% performance improvement from 980 to 1080, when in reality I think the architecture could do 100% improvement - afterall NVidia want that milk for the next little generation (rebrand) after the 1080 (the 1180)!
     
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    Agreed. It will also be interesting to see how driver support changes (if at all) with the launch of Pascal. If it magically becomes much better with Pascal products, we can pretty much conclude NVIDIA is intentionally screwing over anyone who does not upgrade on an annual basis.
     
    J.Dre, Mar 11, 2016
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    Now, when are their mid-range notebook products launching? I want to get myself a $1500 notebook with the 1060M in it... And finally be able to play Witcher 3 at better settings.
     
    Ionising_Radiation, Mar 11, 2016
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    In my humble opinion, on laptop, the x60M nvidia are too weak in term of performance, especially for guy like you that play hungry ressources graphic games like witcher 3. If you can make a financial effort, i will advise you to take a notebook with 1070m in it ... (but, first, we have to wait to know the real gain of the new pascal architecture) ...
     
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    All of the cards should see some improvement, be it minor or not. Even the 1030M, 1040M, etc. are getting GDDR5X, if I recall correctly. But the 1060M should have noticeable gains: +30% is what I'd expect for it. :) This is approximately +10 FPS (depending on the game).

    There don't seem to be any 100% re-brands this time. But I'm sure 2017 and 2018 are re-brand years. :D
     
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    Not to nitpick, but wouldn't the 1020(m) be a re-brand?
     
    Game7a1, Mar 12, 2016
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    Is it even sure that pascal will be called 10xxm? Because it looks a little ugly.
     
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    Not sure. Could be. Those very low ones I have no idea about... Think the article I read was talking about 1030, 1040, and 1050.
     
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    No idea, but that's what the Chinese blog indicated. Maybe eventually these model numbers will go full circle and we can eagerly await the new GTX 8800 in 2027 :D
     
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    Somehow I dont feel calling the first truly 4K capable card 1080 will go down well with Nvidia Marketing guys.
     
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    Sounds fine to me. You don't say, "one thousand and eighty." :D It's not money.

    "Seven eighty" -> 780
    "Eight eighty" -> 880
    "Nine eighty" -> 980
    "Ten eighty" -> 1080
    "Eleven eighty" -> 1180

    EDIT: Oh, you're saying it sounds like 1080p... Funny. :p
     
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    Haha, yep, 1080p!
     
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    Prime was not referring to pricing, but confusion with 1080p resolution
     
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    Yeah, I realized that after I posted.

    I wasn't referring to pricing, either. :p Thought he meant the name was too long to say.
     
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    Well maybe confusion with the skateboard game 1080 snowboarding... :rolleyes:

    I don't think it will matter. They may change the nomenclature altogether.
     
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    You guys got it all wrong, there will only be three Pascal GPUs, and they'll be named thusly:
    • GTX 1080(M)
    • GTX 1440(M)
    • GTX 2160(M)
     
    n=1, Mar 12, 2016
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    Don't forget 2880. 5k is a thing now.
     
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    They could go all Roman numeral and use X80, x70, etc...
     
    HTWingNut, Mar 12, 2016
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    hmscott, Mar 13, 2016
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    That doesn't look bad actually! X80, X80ti, X80m, etc, etc. Although the GTX prefix could look weird: GTX X80ti, but maybe they could join it up to avoid repetition but still keep the meaning: GTX80ti (no spaces)...... Hmmm, probably need some spaces, that's starting to look like word salad! GTR X80ti............ 0-60 in 5 seconds - haha, you saw it here first!
     
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    If I were to change the name, I would introduce a scheme similar to the Titan.
     
    J.Dre, Mar 14, 2016
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    Wouldn't that be MLXXX, MLXX, MLX, ML, etc?
     
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    Why not GTX 200, GTX 400, GTX 650, GTX 500, GTX 1000? You know, how much we pay for these things....
    Knowing nvidia, for next generation, they just put a 1 in front of everything.

    And add a GTX 1500M, cause you know, we will get a rebrand of a GTX 500 but for some reason, the price triples.
     
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    LOL on this :p
     
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    I don't see anything in there that looks like they would announce Pascal in detail. Never know I guess.

    Sent from a 128th Legion Stormtrooper 6P
     
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