Pascal: What do we know? Discussion, Latest News & Updates: 1000M Series GPU's

Pascal, Pascal wherefore art thou Pascal.

 

rofl, i expected as much, considering the context of the keynotes @selfdriving cars, AI, blahblah...

so,king of the hill for another two months then ^^

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It's just what I feared and suspected would happen, which is that we more than likely will not be seeing any Mobile Pascal card this year, and the rumors of a Q1 2017 release are becoming more and more real...

 

It's only the beginning of Q2 2016, there is still a lot of 2016 remaining

 

They're under a lot of pressure from car manufacturers, now that autonomous vehicles are on the horizon. I am not really surprised but am a bit disappointed. Mostly about the fact that they can't meet demand and must put aside production of other markets, and the simple fact that there's no suitable competition to force them to do more and do more in a better way.

 

Guess I'm in the minority that's actually excited about compute.

 

Really is looking like Polaris 10 (hopefully) will make it to market a quarter before Pascal at this rate, at least. Nvidia still haven't even shown 1 running prototype of a consumer card.

 

You arent. I am quite interested in the 1:2 DP and are hoping the titan based GP100 will have full FP64 enabled.

 

Unfortunately you know Nvidia better than that.

 

Mother of God....



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They did it for OG Titan and Titan Black. Titan X had none cause Maxwell sucked for compute.

Considering we hadnt had a decent DP card since Kepler, I am hoping nvidia would give it full FP64 treatment. I dont expect ECC or none of that stuff, just the extra FP64 is sweet.

 

The mid-end PX2 version uses liquid cooling...

 

The Nvidia Keynote from yesterday is available here:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/85315086

The next 2 Keynotes are listed as starting at 10:30am, but the current stream image says today's IBM Watson stream starts at 11:00am Pacific time.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/fWbQyaEMfbh

Spoiler

Thursday's stream is Toyota, shown now as starting at 11:00am.

Update: Todays IBM Watson Keynote recorded playback:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/85340289

 

Doesn't look like anything we hoped for is being presented or announced. However, Computex is next month and NVIDIA has a booth.

 

any chance of them announcing it at pax?

 

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Sure, it's still early in the game, but the less we hear coming out this week about Mobile Pascal, the more likely it is that it won't be released until Q1 of 2017, if not later.
I seriously doubt that Nvidia will wait until May to announce something that we all want to hear now, because I think that it's in their best interests to generate a loud buzz in what should be arguably their biggest graphics game-changer in a long time.
It's in their best interests from a business standpoint to exploit the advertising on this while they hold a captive audience this week.
The fact that they haven't announced anything on Mobile Pascal does strongly indicate to me that the rumors that I was reading about a 2017 release is becoming more and more real.

 

well its definitely still out for at least 2-3 months, considering we havent seen any leaks out of the usual asian sources yet...

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Nah, won't be that long. That would be more than 2 years between product launches. Unheard of in the market.

They launched the 700 series at Computex. I'm betting they'll do the same this year.

 

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With how much of a game-changer Pascal is, one would think that there would be some kind of word from at least the Asian press by now, other than what Nvidia is talking about currently this week live at the Conference.
Since there isn't been anything mentioned by anyone anywhere yet, it is really odd.
I guess we will see what happens next at Computex for any updated info.

 

I think a delay can be expect between desktop GP 104/204 and mobile counterpart.
Especially if nvidia is waiting for GDDR5x, we are looking at June minimum.
So we are looking at GTX 1080m at October probably, which is around the timeframe for polaris mobile launch. So it make sense to launch in Q2-Q3 2016.

You are looking at 1080 with normal GDDR5 or a really really early paper launch if thats the case.

 

They have launched products at pax before, so it's definitely possible. That's the next show before computex, but they'd probably wait for the larger show (computex). Keynotes really aren't a big pax thing, they usually do more panel style stuff. That's not to say nvidia couldn't do one at their booth- it's usually a very large one on the show floor- or use one of the auditoriums to do a keynote, it's just not the norm.

Nvidia made the 970 ready to buy almost straight away if memory serves me correctly, so hopefully they are pulling an Apple and getting stuff ready to ship right away

 

Operators are standing by...

Spoiler

 

Mobile Pascal will launch October 11th 2016, because that marks 2 years from the OP in this thread.

Nvidia now has what they call an "NBR-oriented roadmap".

 

Time to start a volta thread.

 

Or just necro this one
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/nvidias-next-gen-announces-architecture-volta.712729/

 

Haha!

 

It is a shame they decided to keep us waiting.

I might lose money making a bad decision now because of this, but again, this all depends on what the improvement is between generations. Thing which has not been anywhere. Decisions, decisions XD

 

All I want is single GPU 4k performance at 50+ fps... and so far Pascal doesnt look like it will deliver it in its first gen anyway.

 

GTC 2016 - Today's Keynote, CEO of Toyota Research - Gill Pratt
Previously at DARPA, Recorded Playback
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/85379308

 

I was going to same something similar.

 

Something is supposed to come out, Pascal wise, in early June.

 

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-1070-computex-2016/

Let's hope rumors prove to be accurate this time!

I find it strange that the only place one will be able to (pre)order a Pascal GPU will be through Nvidia's website. They did mention on WCCFTECH that this was the case with the 980Ti as well.
Is this a way to control sales? As in not enough units will be available initially?
In any case, my trusted wallet and myself will be ready on D-day to pull the trigger and get the foundation of my future desktop build...

 

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Desktop first, and then months later Mobile, no doubt.....

 

It's not usually in that order. It's usually the mobile first.

 

If I remember correctly, the Titan is always first to come out, and they always offer it pre-order first week or so.

 

Heh? Titan never launched first?

 

A number of 700 series chips were released for mobile devices in April 2013 (mostly low-end mobile). GeForce 700 series cards were first released in May 2013, starting with the release of the GTX Titan on February 19, 2013, and the GeForce GTX 780 on May 23, 2013. The GTX Titan X was the first GM200 card and was released in March of 2015, followed by the 980Ti in June of 2015.

Trend is usually Titan, then flagship desktop, then mobile. Not always but more often than not.

 

I am talking about per architecture....

700/600 series dont mean much at all.

 

Another leak:
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-pascal-gp104-gpu-leaked/

Really looks like they will release 1070/1080 first. Hope the top tier gpus won't be released much later than that....

 

Wait... I thought GX 10X were Nvidia's lower-end or 'first' release of the X architecture, referring to Maxwell's GM107? All the second-gen releases were GM200, GM204 and Gm206. Or was that a special case only for Maxwell where there were two 'versions' of the architecture? What I mean is, shouldn't the GTX 1070/1080 be GP204, instead of GP104?

 

GP100 with HBM2 : titan and Ti
GP104 : 1070/1080 etc with DDR5X

 

or rather regular gddr5 boosted to 8gbps...

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If they use GDDR5X for everything this year except the Titan, I wouldn't even buy Pascal until 2017 because the re-brand* will be unleashed, assuming you have a suitable GPU now.

*By "re-brand," I'm referring to the next iteration of Pascal.

 

Is there going to be much difference between gddr5x and hbm?

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depends on how they clock each. high-clocked gddr5x can overtake low clocked hbm2...

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More evidence pointing to those Pascal GPUs in Drive PX-2 being GeForce GTX x60M category chips (besides size, bandwidth and type of VRAM - 4GB GDDR5 at 80 GB/s - what you would expect in x60m but not x70m/x80m):



http://videocardz.com/58973/nvidia-pascal-gp106-gpu-pictured-up-close

 

GP106 should be a 4 tflops part. Around 970 performance? Might be a gtx 1080m depending on the size of 1080.

 

I'd hope it would perform better than that, because doesn't the 980m already perform close to a 970 when OC'd?

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actuall close to the 980 when oc-ed 970 levels are easily achieveable

 

It will probably be 10-20% better than 980m, but I think wants to milk the market for as long as they can until volta.

So GP106 now and a "desktop edition" of GTX 1080 later makes sense if GP106 can perform.