Pascal: What do we know? Discussion, Latest News & Updates: 1000M Series GPU's

http://wccftech.com/rumor-nvidia-pascal-gtx-1080-gddr5x-gtx-1070-f-gddr5/

Seems like we'll be able to get our hands on all 3 replacements to the 970, 980 and 980 Ti in June...

 

From a pure superficial speculation POV, from these specs seem to indicate, is that the new 1070m/1080m's are going to be near GTX 980 desktop performance levels.
If this is true, then this is definitely worth waiting for in the next round of Gaming Laptops in July.

 

I'd skip them entirely and wait for 1180M next year if they're only 980 level. That's like 30% gain (max) over 980M.

Seems like they may tease us with HBM2 on the Titan and whatnot... Damnit.

 

Exact reason why I will probably skip GTX 1080. 30% gain is really not worth upgrading. I want a minimum of 50% gain overclocked to overclocked.

 

This.
For 980M owners, definitely not worth it. But it might be the only option if HBM2 becomes the standard with 1180M on. I highly doubt Clevo will release a 2nd heatsink for their older laptop models to make the 1180M compatible. Especially for people with the P7 series that have a shared heatsink between the CPU and GPU. It's just not in their business interest.

 

well as long as they keep the chassis the same with only minor adjustments to new hardware on the inside, the P7 series will be just fine same as with the P1 series before, u could just swap out heatsinks between the different revisions!

 

The 980m are already near the desktop 980...

 

These guys post a different article on it like every 2 hours-- not sure about their cred.

 

If amd gets hbm2 I think nvidia will need to match them. They have promised unified memory, have they not?

 

I'm hoping nvlink will bolster sli and allow for the usage of the gpu's independently instead of having a master GPU and slave GPU

 

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It's somewhat near only if you OC it.
At standard performance output, it's not.
When the 1080m comes out later this year, it will be at or above those 980 desktop levels, and be far more efficient for Laptops in battery usage, too.

 

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It really depends on perspective and what you currently own now.
For those who own systems that are older than 2 years old, this is going to be a great time to get a new Pascal-based Laptop, as it will enable game-playing at much higher levels FPS-wise than what we have now, and have a much more efficient battery life when paired with Skylake.

 

MSI gt80 Titan -002 sli 980m

It's a little messed up and I was gonna either get it repaired under watts tu or replace it with pascal edition and I cannot decide which to do

 

I cannot switch from discrete to skylake so it makes little difference in terms of power usage

 

Geez, man, get it fixed. Then you are free to operate immediately when you figure out which way to go.

Besides, you can still upgrade it to Pascal.

Unless the "Pascal" model add's 6700k CPU's, there is little difference or reason to upgrade the frame.

Unless the Robot twisted the Chassis, then you will likely get a new one anyway

 

In hoping for the 6700k CPU
I can't get it repaired till schools out so its kinda a waiting gsme

 

Ahh, not too much longer then. Silver Duct tape holding up ok then?

 

It's not that bad -- the chassis doesn't even look messes up unless I look closely. It has a hole in the screen and warped a little and gets hot is all

 

The new nvidia driver is like magic for single GPU on battery

 

One of the reasons is I'm worried they won't look at internals and will just replace the screen and frame

 

This is what I'm hoping for, currently STUCK with a 460M based M17xR3 with a 2720QM so you guys can imagine the performance gain I'm going to experience in a few months time. I would've already bought a Clevo with a 6700K and a 980 if it wasn't for these Pascal "rumours". If something doesn't materialise by mid June/ early July, I'm getting off this Pascal bandwagon and getting myself a VR ready laptop. I've had enough of CSGO and Hitman Absolution that I'm playing currently. Don't care for 4K in a laptop anyway.

 

but ur laptop is 3d though!!!

Just my word of advice -- don't buy a razer blade pro...

 

I don't think the HBM2 for mobile will come in Q2 2017 either, considering from the leaks & GTC announcements the 56 SM activated Tesla GP100 chip is only one with HBM2, and the full GP100 + HBM2 a.k.a Titan will be released in Q2 2017. Next considering the milking chances nGreedia will max the laptop chips 980 GTX types / GP104 at GDDR5X only later in Q4 2016- Q1 2017.

 

Everything you need to know about HBM2: http://www.extremetech.com/tag/hbm2 It'll come this year sometime.

For mobile? Possibly but unlikely. For desktop? Probably on Titan II and/or the 1080Ti.

Milk, milk, milk, milk, milk, milk... Rihanna needs to write a song for NVIDIA.

 

Where are you getting this year from?

Titan Pascal is Q1 2017 at best. Not saying I wont mind it this year though.

 

I see no point in HBM for mobile. The processor is not fast enough for memory to be a bottleneck, as I understand it.

 

Depending on the application.... and the architectural design of the chip.

Not sure what you mean by processor.....

 

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I can definitely see Nvidia paying her to be their new Spokeswoman very soon.
We can all see it now in their TV commercial just before the Holidays this fall, in which Rihanna will be dressed wearing a new skimpy costume composed entirely of Maxwell and Pascal GPUs.
This costume of hers designed by Nvidia will give new meaning to the word "Bandwidth"....

 

the processing GPU.

From my limited understanding of GPUs, the memory is a problem only when GPU processing unit is faster than it.

 

I wouldn't touch a Razer with a 10-foot pole really.

Yeah, 3D was nice with supported games but since it cuts the fps in half, 460M simply shivers to bring out each frame. The only thing I'm going to miss from this laptop is the 120Hz screen. It's just beautiful.

I am secretly praying that Alienware move away from this BGA nonsense so that I can get another one. Their warranty has been simply superb as far as my experience concerned but looks like they want to sell out those rubbish Amplifiers as quickly as possible. It's just sad Alienwares have lost the plot.

If mobile Pascals take too long, I'm heading straight into the desktop configuration based laptop. I'm really looking forward to surfing this forums yet again with my new machine. I've a feeling 2016 is going to be fantastic for us PC fanatics.

 

Dreamt it.

 

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-launch-pascal-editors-event-may/

God damn! They are killing me with these rumours! It now seems Nvidia handed out invites to the press to some event that is supposed to take place early May where the consumer GPU's will be unveiled....
Really hope this turns out to be true. I am just tired of waiting... I can't wait to build my 1st desktop PC in nearly 12 years...

 

GP104.....

I am likely going to ignore this or buy one as a placeholder for GP100 based Pascal.

If this so called GP102 exists and are a purely gaming based chip with no DP and are used for the next titan, I would be very disappointed.

If you can wait for another couple months, it might be worth it. If you cant do that, at least waiting for AMD to launch their products and then compare.

 

weird though, according to this computerbase article (in german) theyre gonna introduce a total of three consumer pascal cards beginning / mid of june, one of which is supposed to be the 980 ti successor, but based on GP104 and NOT GP100/102


http://www.computerbase.de/2016-04/...-fuer-gtx-970-gtx-980-und-gtx-980-ti-im-juni/
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Desktop ≠ Notebook

 

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To get an easy translation of this from German to English, all you need do, is watch Hogan's Heroes weeknights like I do.
Sgt.Shultz is a great teacher....LOL.

 

Why not just stuff a 780M or 880M in the M17x R3? The performance boost going from a 460M is gonna be massive for you

 

Good point, if he's happy with 3x the performance he can get the 780M (especially with modified vBIOS & overclocking). (Avoid 880M).

 

i get that, my point being that everyone expects the 1080 ti to be based on gp100/102 similar to the 980ti being based on gm200.

or do u mean that computerbase got their infos mixed up and those three models they listed are actually the three mobile flagships?

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I means don't plan your Notebook purchase on a Desktop roadmap...

 

At least after knowing what 980 successor will be, we can be sure on what are the highest expectations for notebooks.

 

I am not talking about performance expectations but release windows...

 

youre such a tease @Prema, as always

 

I think many persons will prefer going the 980m sli route instead of 980. The price of the "mobile" 980 is just hilarious considering how cheap the desktop one is now.
So the new king of mobile gpu's better be a true mobile gpu that doesn't microwaves the insides of your laptop and gets more than anything else: DECENT drivers....

 

So GP106 first. Followed by crippled gp104 with a 1080 desktop edition a year later?

Exactly as expected out of ngreedia.

 

All this talk of a 50% increase from generation to generation - at this rate the 1060M/1070M that I look forward to will, at best, perform as well as the GTX 980M. While that's a decent upgrade, I heard Moore's law said that computing power for a given piece of silicon approximately doubles every two years... Double the GTX 860M's performance ought to exceed it since Nvidia is overdue.

Everyone seems to have forgotten that Maxwell (GM107) was actually released in March 2014, and they're already 2 years in. By June or later, they'll be a quarter of a year late.

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So is better wait for buy a new laptop?

 

Moore's law is dead.

 

I have thought about this but my hands are itching for a new machine, it's been a while since I bought something memorable for myself and I want a mobile VR solution for my travels. I'm definitely boarding the VR hype-train after I get my hands on a laptop that supports it but I suspect it'll be Project Cars in VR with a racing wheel "only" kind of a experience.

 

Your machine is really one of the best ever created, and certainly better than anything on the market save the P870DM. I certainly wouldn't purchase a new computer, considering 400$ would turn your computer into a beast (2920XM + 780M)