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    Performance Benchmarks

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by ViciousXUSMC, Jul 5, 2007.

  1. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    In preparation for my upcomming Asus C90 review I will be running thru alot of benchmarks to denote the performance diffrences between XP/Vista 32bit/Vista 64bit.

    This should help with alot of people asking if its better to use XP instead of vista, or if Vista 64bit is better than 32 ect...

    So I'll worry about running the benchmarks and seting up the triple boot. What I need help on is all the recomended benchmarks that people want to see.

    It needs to be static, like an actual test that is the same every time, I will not be just playing a game and looking at the fps with fraps because thats not really accurate.

    Things like 3dmark, or the built in benchmark test for FEAR ect.

    Here is the list of things I plan to do already, so if you know somthing I can add please let me know.

    3dMark05
    3dMark06
    Aquamark 3
    Built in FEAR performance test
    Built in Trackmania Nations performance test
    Final Fantasy XI performance test
    Lost Planet DX10 performance test (vista only)
    Lost Planet DX9 performance test
    Call of Juarez DX10 performance test (vista only)
    Splinter Cell benchmark

    things added since orignal post:

    Vista built in test
    wPrime
    PCMark05
    CineBench 2003
    HDTune
    Supreme Commander
    Possibly Crysis Benchmark (dont know if it gives a fps reading or if its just a demo)
     
  2. Destin

    Destin Notebook Enthusiast

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    I salute you for doing this. :)
     
  3. Jeff

    Jeff Notebook Retard

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    CoH built in test would be good, with the Dx10 patch and without if possible.
     
  4. Kierkes

    Kierkes Misanthrope

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    I'd like to see an Oblivion benchmark, just to measure what I lost in performance for some livable G2S battery life. XD
     
  5. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Is that in a demo or do you need the full game? It needs to be something I can download.
     
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    Kierkes Misanthrope

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    Ah. Unfortunately you need to buy Oblivion, so I guess if you don't have it already... :p OH whoops. Didn't see the quote. Sorry. thought you were referring to Oblivion.
     
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    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Sure I can do this as a special request, to give you a fair comparison tho I need to know your exact settings, and if your playing at 1920x1200 (im sure your not....) I cant match that res on the C90. This one tho is not a benchmark per say so we need to work out better detials.
     
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    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    I meant for the CoH benchmark.

    I have Oblivion somewhere.. I think

    Thing with oblivion is again there is no actual benchmark, and last time I tried I couldnt get fraps up and going on vista ultimate x64 (my desktop) but maybe I will get lucky on the C90 and it will work.

    Fraps installed and ran just fine, just I didnt see the overlay with the fps count its like the functions were not working. Then I tried to isntall the fraps demo and messed it all up (if you know about fraps, they do some kind of evil thing to your registry if you install the demo that will now allow the full version to ever work again without some really heavy registry editing and system file modification)
     
  9. Kierkes

    Kierkes Misanthrope

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    I play it at 1280 x 960. Textures large. I generally turn all shadows to the max, shadow filtering at high and specular distance to the max. I have HDR on, and all the distance sliders are up except for grass distance, which is turned off completely.

    I used to play at 1920x1200 until all the mods ate up the game's resources and chopped it up. Because somehow, I think the vanilla game did fine at that. (I have no idea how though, it could have been 1600x1024)

    But I keep the rest of the settings the same and use Streamline, the automated pcb. :D

    I'd rather have a vanilla comparison at those settings lol. :D
     
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    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    I played it at 1920x1080 and it killed my desktop I had to lower the resolution, thats why I figured there was no way you played it on a notebook at that resolution.

    I'll leave this out of my review since its not consistant but when I get around to playing it on my own I'll let you know how it goes.
     
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    riffjaff Notebook Evangelist

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    I thank you for doing this. You are definitely going to help out a lot of people including me.
     
  12. Kierkes

    Kierkes Misanthrope

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    Thanks Vicious. Just want to see how big a difference 512MBs of graphics and a Conroe can be.
     
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    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Yeah anybody can benchmark a computer, its nice for people who want to know if its a good computer to buy or not. Im doing this tho in a fashion where everybody has something to benifit.

    There have been a few xp vs vista comparisons in the past but they took place while vista was in its devoloping stages. Now that it has come along far enough think it will be more fair to try again. As for common x64 vs x86 comparisons I have found none. I myself went straight from XP into Vista x64 and have never used the 32bit version so I am intrested in seeing if that super quick response I get now is due to vista or due to 64bit.
     
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    I think the 512 dedicated memory will help a good amount, more so when you play at a higher resolution with alot of textures. The C2D shouldnt do much for most games since its very gpu limited. The exception being very cpu demanding games like flight simulator X, or Supreme Commander, also if you do single player games with bots, like battlefield. the bost use cpu resources due to the AI so a stronger cpu = more bots can be present.

    Where you will see the BIG difference would be CineBench, anytime you do video compression/encoding, things like that are all cpu power and @ 2.93ghz your a good jump ahead of even the highest moble processor.

    Loading times and things will be faster too if the hard drive isnt the bottleneck. Wait for SSD's to become standard wich have nearly 2x the speed of a current notebook hdd, and then a faster cpu will be more important for max loading speeds.
     
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    wave Notebook Virtuoso

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    One thing I would like to see if benchmarks of different driver versions. Ofcourse this would add a whole new dimension to the table. Alot of extra work.

    Supreme Commander is great for benchmarks. If you have it please add it.
     
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    I have just noticed on my own that I never get much if any fps change from driver changes. Id assume everybody will use the most up-to-date drivers on an install so thats what I will test.

    Once you know what operation system you want to go with, at your own lesure you can test differrent drivers. Somtimes people get different performance levels or issues with certian drivers but it seems to be usually a very individualistic issue having to do with there system, so I think its best to keep that on an individual level.

    As for Suppreme Commander thats one I dont have, I'll go see if its a game im intrested in and if I can "aquire" it for review/benching.

    update: read the review of supreme commander and yes I think I would be intrested in that game, does it have a built in benchmark tho?
     
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    Great, if I can find the game on the net, or buy it cheap enough I will deinfitly do that one.

    It will also be a great way to show off the performance diffrences from the mobile cpu to the desktop one that the C90 uses if the benchmark uses the cpu as heavy as the game can.

    update: read the link, looks like the benchmark is only 4 guys so it wont be even close to the cpu strain of the full blown game where hundres of unit AI's are going on at once along with phisics and other things.
     
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    Sure I'll add it to the list soon as sombody confirms it has a built in benchmark test.
     
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    wave Notebook Virtuoso

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    No Total War does not have a standard build in benchmark mode / test AFAIK.
     
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    Elegy Notebook Consultant

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    I hopefully plan on buying a Santa Rosa based Go 7950GTX notebook with the following main specifications:

    Processor: T7500
    Graphics: 512Mb Go 7950GTX
    Memory: 3Gb PC2-5300
    Hard Drive: 160Gb 7200rpm

    I also wish to do very detailed benchmarking. At the moment, I'll be using the following programmes:

    3DMark06
    3DMark03
    PCMark05
    HD Tune
    SiSoft Sandra XI
    wPrime
    Cinebench 9.5
    SuperPI
    X2: The Threat
    UT2003
    Vue 6

    Where appropriate, I'll be running benchmarks in a large variety of resolutions and AA/AF modes.

    As you can see, I haven't got much to measure the GPU's capabilities in real world situations (only X2: The Threat and UT2003). Can anyone suggest some free games/demos that have a built in benchmark feature?

    I'm afraid I can't use the FEAR demo since it simply doesn't load up on my computer - just a black screen.
     
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    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Added a few more like wPrime, that will be fun to show of the cpu power and the diffrences it makes when overclocked.

    Also wPrime is one of the programs I know will get better scores in a 64bit OS.
     
  24. Petrov

    Petrov Notebook Deity

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    This is great - is there any way you can link to these programs (where they are publicly available), as I'd like to run these on my G1S and show the results on here?

    Thanks,

    Petrov.
     
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    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    google is your friend :p

    wprime is linked here in our forums I currently hold the #1 spot for single core, and hope my c90 will take top spot for laptops with a dual core.

    here is that thread:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=123570&highlight=wprime

    The rest of them are just around on the net. Places like file planet, guru3d.com, or gamespot will have alot of them. Then others just have there own page, or you have to own the game.
     
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    will be working on trying to get some of this done today, need to get vista installed. xp is up and runnng (posting from c90s now)