Petition to AMD/ATi regarding MXM-II 48xx series

Dear friends! Here is the idea i already mentioned in the other thread - it's not a secret that the high-end gfx marketshare is way smaller than that of mainstream solutions such as 15" gaming systems, especially in the light of recent financial crisis there are not that many people willing to overpay for some rebranded solutions of one well known company. With 40nm chips this is truly a chance for AMD to win our hearts and steal a huge chunk of sales from Nvidia. All we need to do is to convince AMD that this is a good idea to release their very well performing 48xx series in MXM-II format, allowing many customers to upgrade from their GF9600 to the new level of performance. Also, such thing would allow many laptop manufacturers to build truly powerful laptops without investing tons of money into developing expensive cooling solutions to house MXM-III/IV or new motherboards for MXM 3.0.
If we can get a big number of people to support this thread, than we can send a letter to AMD linking to this thread and see if that changes anything.
We can not just hope, we need to do something!

 

right. and this will work in terms of power and of course thermal envelopes because of...?

 

Doesn't MXM II have a fairly low (25W) max TDP? If so, then it won't be possible to supply enough power. Even though the new 48xx series are 40nm, they will still consume quite a bit power, well over 25W.

 

If this was feasible then they would have done it. The smaller a laptop gets, the lower the power the GPU is for a reason... and that's not because the manufacturers are bullies.

Let's write a petition to ATI to make a video card that is better than a GTX 295, surely they will comply.

 

i am quite sure it is possible to make one within 25W TDP, for example, lower the clocks, make something like 4810 or 4820... still would make a world of difference. But it seems noone is interested but me. Disappointing

 

Cr isis is spelled with an I not a Y

 

You're not going to get anywhere with petition seeing that it's really not up to AMD/ATi as to the final form factor these cards will use; it's the manufacturers like Asus, MSI, etc. who determine that.

 

Plus none of the current posts have taken into account planned obsolescence, something manufacturers love too much to want to reduce.

 

grammar police everywhere....

 

It's not that people aren't interested but the fact is the engineering doesn't seem feasible or economically viable.

 

lol, die you non gamer!

 

Not gonna happen. A petition would be useless as we are not buying the GPUs from ATI or Nvidia. And the TDP of the HD48xx is too high for MXM-II. I'll be extremely happy with "only" getting the HD4670.

 

Is there any news about ATI 46xx or GT 130M hitting mxm 2 yet? Wondering whether its worth holding back on getting a 9650M GT. I can imagine if they do they will be the last generation of cards to be released on the "older" mxm build

 

MXM II factor must conform to max heat threshold and max power threshold. the 4800 chip cannot achieve that in either category. with a reduced chip size it may be able to shrink that down but i doubt to 25 watts. maybe 40.. its still a very large chip with a very large array of process streams that need to be powered. and that requires watts and that produces heat. the 4600 series i am not sure about but its probably above that too.

 

Is not the Nvidia 9700M GT in the MXMII form factor also ??? If so that card is just like an super-overclocked 9600M GT and is rated at 40watts also. So with the smaller die for the new ATI GPU's I would not be suprised if we see some new MXMII cards that are better and faster than the 9700M GT which is currently the top MXMII card. God Bless

 

9700M GT is actually an MXM-III card - just overclock your 9600M GT to those levels and you're fine.
I too am wondering if the GT 130M and HD 4xx0 series will find their way onto the MXM-II form factor, but I'm going more and more doubtful. Wait for Acer or another MXM supporter to release a new series of notebooks, then we'll find out.

Oh wait, I almost forgot - the Aspire 8935G will have the Radeon HD 4670 1GB. Everyone cross your fingers and pray it's MXM-II...

 

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OP: I will only switch to ATI if they can make their performance/price ratio 25%+ better than nVidia
Even though it sounds kind of high expectation wise, I really dislike AMD and never really had a chance to experience ATI to its fullest
I would still rather pay more for an nVidia that may have only 5% more power but has a much larger community and support base etc...

 

the Aspire 8935G suport 9700M GT, so it is is actually an MXM-III

 

The 4670 in the MSI EX625 is MXM II.

 

MXM III is backwards compatible with MXM II... so the 4670 could still be MXM II.

EDIT: well nvm, it's confirmed as MXM II. But for future reference, yes you can put II in a III slot.

 

Actually, it was a spelling error.