Pidge from Nvidia has asked that user experiencing problems with the 880m list them here..

Its a month since pidge wrote something here...

 

I learned a lesson. My relationship with Nvidia should be like this: NEVER BUY REBRAND CARD ANYMORE if possible! Pay money to someone who will make older revision fly better than rebrand at default. If everyone start being the same they WILL feel the hit and act as they have to.

 

Or we just wait and see what people say. Because some people are gonna acquire the flagships and check them out. If people buy en-masse, well... gg. That being said you can't always just "avoid" the rebrands. If you NEED a new laptop you probably will have to deal with a rebrand.

 

Yep. How I got stuck with 880s

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Only if the enthusiast segment makes up a significant portion of nVidia's revenue. Somehow I'm inclined to believe that mid-range instead of high-end cards are the volume sellers and make up the bulk of nVidia's revenue, so nVidia really couldn't care less.

 

I'm still waiting for the 4GB 880Ms to be transplanted into a Clevo or an AW and see how it works. I am almost dead certain that the heating issues are nonexistent in that card, because there's no other way Asus laptops cool better than alienware.

 

Well the Asus card use a custom PCB which by my very rough eyeballing appears to be almost twice the standard MXM size. In Asus' own words larger surface area = less heat, so yeah...

 

Wow that's one huge card....

http://forum.notebookreview.com/asu...726296-asus-g750-disassembly.html#post9321287

Would be a nightmare to own an ASUS machine... Wow.

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I don't believe it until they use a 8GB 880M in that thing. *rage*

 

LOL that board looks like it's from a desktop card. And I guess somebody's never heard of thermal pads?

Reminds me so much of my G73JH. God I hated that thing.

 

Imagine the ing job and clean the Asus's laptop's fan and heatsink every 3 months :laugh:

 

*puts on tinfoil hat*

He was fired for daring to tell the truth about nVidia's crappy vBIOS. :cry:

 

Nah, his last post here was made just 2 days ago: https://forums.geforce.com/member/1734590/

 

goddammit you could've at least let me live my "pidge is a hero" fantasy for more than 6 minutes

 

Hahahaha, I almost believed you for a second

 

so, nvidia´s tactic to just let "the complainers" talk and wait till they´re run out of fuel has basically paid off?

 

Well i contacted Alienware on the 6th day of my purchase regarding this heating and throttling issue the replaced my laptop then the second one also had the same problem they again replaced it the 3rd also had the same problem but i dint contact them and waited for a fix 2 months passed no fix i contacted Alienware again explained them everything and asked for a full refund and they agreed to give me Full Refund.

Atleast now i can speed properly at night but if like me everyone returns their laptop then i guess Alienware and Nvidia would take us seriously.

 

I doubt any other company except Alienware would refund for smth which is not officially declared.

 

Ya i guess i know that DEll/ALIENWARE has this policy where if there is something wrong with your laptop they will try to fix it and if they cant fix it they replace your entire machine and after 3 replacement if the machine still has problems and if its under warranty then you can get a full refund.

I am assuming that every company has to do the same they have to provide a solution if there is a problem.

 

I also benefited from AW's warranty. I went through pretty much the same stuff with a 580m. Dell even organised a conference call to 'explain' the issue. They had a tech on line as well to field the techie questions.

Upshot, it was all a pasting issue. Not true but by that time the NV driver had almost stopped randomly dropping the clock even at low temps. Like this 880m problem, after a time everyone just gets fed up and moves on.

For me they replaced a bunch of bits (in-home) and once the R4 came out they offered me an upgraded R4 (the one in my sig). A full refund was also offered even though it was 6 months by now. There is a reason that AW's are expensive when compared to like-for-like from the competition, and it's not just 'because it's an Alienware'. I have seen them try a 780m replacement for an 880m so they know full well it's a poo card. Maybe when the new cards finally land they will step up to the plate and upgrade when pushed?

Good luck guys and stick at it.

 

I don't think any clevo resellers do things like that. Maybe an upgrade-replacement when the new cards come out if your old ones are truly having issues through Sager with XoticPC on their heels, but other than that, I don't think anyone's gonna be happy.

 

For anyone who has problems with gtx880m, I hope PC manufacturers runs out of gtx880m when customers need to return their laptops with GPU problems. Are they completely out of gtx880m when gtx980m is in stock it looks bright for the customers.

 

I'm going to try this method honestly. Got my Alienware in April and almost every game my gpu throttles. Been following this thread in hopes of an eventual fix but looks like that's not going to happen. When the 980m launches I'm going to call dell about a warranty replacement. I won't take another 880m.

 

On the plus side, even if they try to low-ball you with a 970M and won't budge on it, it'll STILL rip an 880M to shreds.

 

Oh there will be no low balling haha. I'd tell them to shove the 970. I paid for the flagship for a reason that's what I'd expect back. If I have to purchase it so be it but I don't wanna surrender to that option. :/

 

They don't have to give you the flagship, they have to give you something equivalent in performance which the 970M would still surpass.

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If they gave me trouble I can always sell the 970m and purchase the 980m. My patience had worn thin though... So I'd probably just buy it and take the hit. The first laptop they shipped me ended up being doa before I got this one so I have already reached my limit of nonsense in a year.

 

I completely understand. My laptop has cost me nearly $600 USD in warranty shipments and repairs just this year alone AND I still haven't fixed the issue... but since my reseller can't reproduce the issue, I'm almost SOL unless I actually figure out the problem on my own and get it fixed. *sighsauce*

 

I hear you. I already had to have my 880s replaced once by Sager because of all the issues and I'm going to be fighting to get working cards when the new ones come out. They are well aware that these cards don't function properly.

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The good news is it looks like these 980m cards are going to be beastly. With the lower power consumption we can almost be sure overclocking will be a joy. FYI here's a link to my current 3d mark firestrike score. http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2749802

 

Hi,

I think I am experiencing the same issue with my 880gtx (throttling effect).

What is the software I can use to monitor GPU performance (clock, temp) in real-time and at the same time to have this saved to the file.
Already have seen some nice done graphs through this topic.

Thanks ...

 

MSI Afterburner

 

I'm not sure about saving but you can monitor it with msi afterburner. I'm generally stuck at 954 core clock and 93 degrees celsius. Sucks bad.

 

You beat me to it dohhhhh. :thumbsup:

 

Thanks for suggestion.

You are right, mine 880gtx is stuck at 953.7 and even more this is at 80C only !!!
That is why I have seen game instantly slowing down with no reason at all.
Is it worth it to call Dell and have this card replaced with another 880 or it is better to wait for 9XX series first??

Is this fact (low clock and thro...) covered under warranty?

 

It should be. Wait for the 970M/980M to release then ask them for warranty.

 

Sadly there is no point in getting the 880 replaced with another.. the problem will only come back. It's an issue across all cards. A very disappointing release by Nvidia with no fix on the horizon.

 

For AW I'd say call now. Yes all they can do is give you another 880m but you'll have 'history' when the 9xx cards land. That way you won't be just another 'me too' chasing a better card. Since they will have a bunch of these cards laying around they may well decide that the first thing is to replace it, even if a better card is released. Who knows maybe some of these actually work!!!

No shipping it or messing, tell them you want an engineer to replace the card.

Good luck.

 

I would suggest returning the laptop and getting a fully refund if possible that's what i did because you never know if they will agree on giving you an upgrade to the 900 series once it launches as they have the policy where first they will try to repair and after 3 failed repairs then only replacement or refund will be provided so if you are under 30days from the purchase date then return or els wait and wish for the best but we need to think from both the sides.

 

Never had this issue.
my cards hold 993Mhz / 2497Mhz steady no matter what game or how long i play.

here is a screenshot after 30 minutes of BF4:

 

Wondering; do you have two power adapters?

 

^^^
Yes.
i must use 2 power adapters in my model.

 

Then your 880Ms won't be running out of power and randomly downclocking at all, and your P570WM's cooling is perfect. You're essentially a special case, unlike if I were to shove 880Ms in my P370SM3

 

85% utilization isn't really stressing the cards. It doesn't happen until higher levels. Kick the AA levels up, that's what does it to mine and the whole reason I got fast cards was to jack up the quality through the roof. I don't have that particular game to go test. It's also misleading to take a screenshot of the game rather than a time stretch since the core goes up and down and can go from not boosting to boosting again but my bet is more on low utilization than anything unless you flashed the modded vbios.

This shouldn't make a difference. Power limit in vbios policy has nothing to do with the power going into the machine unless the P570WM cards are flashed with a different vbios which is possible. If that's the case though, I'd like to have a dump of that vbios because it should work on any machine. My cards still throttle with two power adapters so that's not it either.

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Why am i a "special case"?
if it's a power or cooling related issue all P570WM's should be the same.

How do i take a time stretch?
as far as i know i put all settings on maximum in this game.
the vbios on stock.

 

Are you running stock or modded vbios?

The complaints with 880M are that the stock vbios throttles, the modded vbios makes the cards too hot for most machines to effectively cool without serious cooling overhaul, and the 880M runs much hotter than the 780M does with a slight voltage bump (usually takes a 780M 1.025v to be able to hold 993MHz) and the same clock speed.

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Already answered you in the edit of my previous post.

 

124FPS plus 81 and 85 utilization shows the cards aren't stressed out at all.

As for making a time stretch, fire up two instances of GPU-Z and in one, check drop down box for the first card and log to file then choose the second card in the other one and log to file. Game for at least 45 minutes (it takes 45 minutes to an hour in some games before the core drops which makes it even more of a pain to figure out which is why I use a Bioshock infinite maxed our to test, happens pretty fast because it has great optimization) then uncheck both boxes.

Grab generic log viewer http://www.hwinfo.com/forum/Thread-LogViewer-for-HWINFO-is-available

In log viewer, set 2 rows so you can see temperature and core and load both files. You can also trim them so that the start and end time are when it's already in game to get the fixed average core and temp (makes it easier to read the results).

Then take a screenshot and post

Sounds complicated but it's not. The key is to make sure that you don't select the same card both times

If you want to see it happen faster, I've seen it happen faster with Unigine Valley than most things.

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Ok
i'll do that and report back.
it's important to me to know the truth.

i'll report tomorrow because now i am working on a physics benchmark to compare system capabilities with friends here

 

Sounds good. I'll actually make some fresh ones myself now that I have two adapters hooked up. Would be interesting if there is a difference but I don't expect there to be one. For linearity sake, want us both to do Valley for the measurement? Extreme full screen preset? If you have cards that act differently we will have to compare our vbios versions and such.

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