Poll: would u rather play a World War 1 game than another WW2 game?

share your ideas guys..i m sick of world war 2 games, give us some world war 1

 

neither, I llike modern games but, I like your laptop. Is that HP HDX9270ee a 15"? or 17"?

 

Hmm, you're going to get a lot less technology involved in WW1 games though.

Will be a factor, particularly for FPSes. Slower rate of fire in infantry weapons, (practically none that are auto) particularly slow moving heavy weapons (much bulkier/heavier), shorter rangers, slow (slower than men) tanks, slow planes. (1/3 of WW2 or less).

I remember a WWI fleet simulation. Can't remember what name it is though.

Also, Man United rocks.

Would be interesting, but the pace might be too slow for players used to faster paced games.

The HDX is a 20.1.

 

As sick as I am of WWII, WWI wouldn't be the least bit interesting to play as a videogame.

 

WWI would not be suitable as an FPS due to the nature of the war back then. Trench warfare was uneventful for weeks on end, and chemical weapons were just being introduced; how would you integrate that into a game?

 

What about random chemical clouds that waft through the map at random moments. Kills anyone who is unable to put on their gas masks on time.

Maybe make a mini game to putting the mask on in time, something like Bioshock's hacking mini-game.

 

How about we go way back and have mass war games you and 50,000 other people hacking it out with swords and spears.

 

nah its a 20.1 inch..its huge!!!

 

that would be way too cool!!!!

 

and no manU doesnt rock!!!!

 

I like WWII games myself. WWI would be pretty hard to replicate.

 

not a fan of war games... especially not WWI or WWII.

 

man why r they going back to WWII in COD5 i thought we were rid of it and here they are back with it

 

There are many many things about WWII the developers haven't hit on yet.

It's not a big deal... if you don't like it, don't buy it.

 

dude world war 1 sucks, the entire war sucked, most boring world war ever.

The world war 2 genre has been repetitive but thats because shooting games havent really dived deeply into the best world war 2 battles.

They need to include nazi concentration camp infiltration, desert tank battles in egypt, pacific war on cruisers and island jungles.

Thats way more exciting than just staying in stinking europe for world war 1. europe sucks. And the only interesting part of world war 1 is that it started with an assassination, and thats not even in world war 1 games! It is was, I'd play it. And did i say, fighting in europe SUCKS

that ends my analysis of world war 1 vs world war 2

 

Ok WWI is all trench warfare so how are you gonna play that...and as for WWII I want to play as axis forces as much as I like playing on allies.

 

Revolutionary War please? Anybody up for some Minutemen vs Redcoats action? Otherwise, give me pirate looting battles.

 

WWI was the early part of the transition from static line warfare to dynamic fluid warfare. For shooters, it is very bad because the action is slow and impersonal. However, it could make for a good RTS or even more TBS game or 2.

Oh, and how can you call WWII and WWI "ancient"? Ancient is reserved for things generally Roman and before. The middle ages aren't even really referred to as ancient. There are still people alive from WWII.

 

A pirate FPS sounds pretty cool.
Possible mission objectives

-swing successfully and board enemy ship

fail, and drown/get eaten by sharks.

- treasure grab, the more treasure you can find, the better weapons you can afford

Choice of weapons = mix of ranged, pistols/cutlass or pure ranged, musket/pistols, pure melee, cutlass/pike/dagger/assorted

Ranged weapons would be powerful with very long reload times. Multiple pistols possible. Appropriate skill sets as well.

 

What would honestly probably make for the most interesting shooter experience from the Revolutionary War period (what do you Brits across the pond call the Revolution again?) would probably be in the role of an Indian raider or a fur trapper/explorer. Larger battles were still all about lining your soldiers up and having them shoot at eachother until one of you gave up.

 

And some from WW1 as well.

Frank Buckles = Sole remaining US soldier (or at least definite)

John Bab**** = Canadian.

 

Point officially reinforced.

 

i will buy the game cuz i usually buy gmaes that get good reviews and i think COD5 will also be a good game...its just that i m a bit let down cuz i read somewhere b4 that the developers wont be going back to WWII cuz of the success of COD4, but that was b4 this news abt back to @@II came out..so i m just dissappointed

 

They need to get some real team games goin on in here.

Kinda like Socom and Ghost recon (havent played new ones)

If they could integrate great multiplayer into awesome team games, that would rock.

Games could be slower, but it's always so satisfying to get that longed kill.

 

Well at least it will be the Pacific theater. Should make it somewhat different. At the very least, they will be shouting in Japanese before you kill them instead of German. And the trees will look different.

 

Less snow, more rain + greenery.

Perhaps fatigue could be a factor.

Hmm, kamikazes could be a new weapon/skill!

I'm wondering about balancing game balance and historical accuracy though. The Allies had much better tanks (most of war) and planes (later parts of war).

 

But the Japanese had fanatical fighters, and much of the island geography negated the vehicular advantage of the Americans. As long as they focus on single engagements, they can make it quite a game. Yes the US overwhelmed the Japanese with manufacturing and manpower advantages, but if you are just one soldier on the ground, a war of attrition looks somewhat different.

 

what don't people like about ww2 games???????

i want a russian/german focused game........i don't like jungle fighting...visiblity sucks and unless the ai can simulate poor visibility it means a lot of spraying and praying for the player and lots of dying becasue the ai knows exactly where you are.........which means a totally crap style of play......but maybe i just played vietcong for too long.............

there are heaps of modern shooters out...............all the people winging about ww2 shooters can just go play like half a dozen of those.

 

Mmmkay.

No? I've played through D-day, Battle of the Bulge, Battle of Berlin, Stalingrad, Caen, Market Garden, and El-Alamein off the top of my head. God knows what you have in mind by 'best', but whatever it is you probably read it in a comic book.

Considering that tactics, not strategy, matter in FPS games, venue is almost entirely irrelevant except as eye candy. The repetitiveness of WWII games is due to the endless recycling of all the familiar activities: planting C4, infiltrating the base, shooting the AA gun, sniping, storming the trench/beach/house with a Bren/M1 Garand/Thompson, etc. There's little diversity among all FPS games, not just the WWII ones. The distance separating UT, COD and Turok (or any other FPS you can name) is measured in degrees, not miles or even yards.

There is also an unfortunate tendency among WWII games to place no emphasis whatsoever on plot, the key element that made a game like Bioshock so great. Developers assume that the story of the war is self-evident, requires no depth or focus on individual characters, or continuity across missions. Much good could be done for the genre in this area.

Which never happened. Moreover, infiltration missions are a staple of the genre. Nothing new here.

COD3 covered this extensively.

Only superficially different than Atlantic war 'on cruisers' and in continental forests.

F minus.

WWI could be done very well as an RTS in the Total War or WiC mould (a sophisticated artillery system comes to mind). The real question is how much balance needs to exist between reality and enjoyability. Would a game where the launching of waves of soldiers against the enemy's trenches, resulting in the deaths of 90% of your men for insignificant gains, be fun? Maybe something situated in the critical years of late-1917/early-1918, covering the last major Alliance offensive in the west and the rapid Entente counterpunch following America's involvement would be best. One could also interestingly cover the early years of the war in the East, from the Russians' initial gains against the Austrians, to the German rescue that finally caused the collapse of the Imperial army (and state).

 

PVK anyone?

 

how about the battle of france how about not the big main battles but the more obscure ones like yugoslavia or greece.....or the battle of crete.....there are heaps of battles not been played before, just people haven't heard of them..........and whats wrong with a good comic book.

i agree, but it seems the ww2 era has a bit more tactical thinking involved rather than pull out your 100 shot machine gun and cover the screen with bullets.........and yes, most shooters are similar to the last.............that why i generally play old school war games like in my sig.......a bit more strategy and thinking involved.

cod1 is good so is MOHAA i think its time for an update a few new ideas and a different perspective to the allies (or the US)

a staple??????? don't know about staples but it certainly exists. return to castle wolfenstein comes to mind which was a great game.

you missed out the german spring offensive that could have won the germans the war.

i am thinking HoI............but their are already numerous mods for that........

 

Modern warfare for me

 

The Italian invasion of Greece would be a great idea for a game. You could play as a partisan and the game would get harder and harder as the Germans would arrive to reinforce and take over for their incompetent allies.

Playing as a rebel Jew during the Warsaw Ghetto uprising or simply an AK fighter in Poland are possibilities as well. Those plotlines could culminate in your extermination by Jürgen Stroop and the betrayal of the Red Army, respectively. I think giving a WWII game a pessimistic sense of fatalism would be an entirely new direction for the genre, a huge step away from the American triumphalism we're used to seeing.

In short, there are plenty of possibilities for plot-driven games full of interesting characters, activities (smuggling, espionage, assassination of military figures by plainclothes resistance fighters) and genuine pathos. There is even opportunity for moral discussion and decision-making in the context of illegal executions of POWs, pillaging and looting, Red Army rapes, the extent of the Nazification of the Wehrmacht, and so forth. That not a single one has been attempted tells me that developers are more concerned with the quick and sure dollar than the truly high-quality, innovative product.

 

unfortunately i can't give out any more rep

yes i am sick of the US...........and the allies completely..............i would like to play as german from invasion of poland to invasion of the low countries to the invasion of france and all the battles that occured before the us intervention......or maybe even as the french...........that would be an interesting twist.

unfortunatley games are designed to make money rather than designed to be awesome..........so tend to be similar...............i only bought cod4 to play MP with mates i haven't bought a good game for ages......i tend to play free oldschool wargames (generally worldwar 2 based) and have become addicted to the panzer campaigns in my sig........you can play as axis or allies and its............words fail me......you would have to have a look if you are interested.

 

Wasn`t there a movie where the Germans actually won world war 2?
I`d like to see that in a game

 

play hearts of iron 2 as germany.....after a bit of practice you'll be able to "win" rather easily.............even take out pretty much all of the world....

 

Jeff have you played Red Orchestra yet? That is a WWII game based on the Russians and the Germans. It is pretty awesome. Highly realistic. It's getting a little old but there still seems to be a few good servers. Here is the link.
Tim

 

oops for some reason blocked at work

will have a sticky beak when i get home.......

is it just a multiplayer game?

 

Turning Point: Fall of Liberty runs with that counter-factual. You play as an American resistance fighter in the early 1950s, battling a Nazi invasion force that's already beaten the allies in WWII (America never joined the war).

I've never played it, but as you can see it got poor reviews.

 

I believe the preferred term is "alternate history" or "alternate reality".

 

Yeah basically...I think they are going to be coming out with Red Orchestra 2 sometime in the future. Although their website doesn't mention it yet. It is just a rumor. You can play single player against bots...but that is really easy. LOL
Tim

 

If you honestly believe the European and Pacific wars were only 'superficially' different, then I don't know what to say.

 

Preferred by whom? I'm a historian and as far as I'm aware, it's always generally been called counterfactual (or counter-factual) history. See: Virtual History: Alternatives and Counterfactuals by Niall Ferguson, Counterfactuals by David K. Lewis, and What If? The World's Foremost Historians Imagine What Might Have Been by Robert Cowley.

 

preferred by gamers...... i play a fair bit of "alternate history games" and alternate history is generally the accepted term.....but maybe its just gamers.

 

Not at all. But I expect that COD5 will only be superficially different from COD3. Jungle warfare is nothing new in the FPS world. We've seen it in Far Cry and Crysis, and in the context of guerrilla warfare in Battlefield Vietnam and Conflict: Vietnam.

 

I'd buy any game where you get to play an ANZAC. Unfortunately, it would be the easiest game ever, because you'd be invincible.

 

add MOH pacific assault.

 

truth of the century

 

I think you can use both since they both mean the same thing. lol
Tim

 

Modern > WW II > WW I
for me =]

I mean.. after CoD4 I don't think I would ever want to go back to a WW II game since they all have the same weapons and whatnot, but a modern game would always have new stuff since well.. technology is constantly advancing.

I guess I just love being amazed by how technologically advanced we are in war.