It is quite easy to find 3DMark scores of most laptop graphics cards, but actual gaming performance is often harder to find and, as benchmark resources such as Notebookcheck do not seem very popular here, actual user-contributed benchmarks can be much better. I'm promoting similar initiatives in my site and in a Spanish forum, so I think in a few weeks we can have a good amount of benchmarks.
In order to get results to compare many different laptops, I have chosen 4 demos that include an internal benchmark (click to go to the demo download page):
Crysis (1.8 GB) - Devil May Cry 4 (1.3 GB, the benchmark is less than 500 MB, can be downloaded here) - World in Conflict (1.2 GB) - X3: Terran Conflict (400 MB)
(Final games usually perform better than the demos, so to be able to make the comparison with people not owning the games, it is important to use the demos, and not the final games)
Excepting X3: Terran Conflict, the rest of the games seem to be optimized for Nvidia cards, this has to be taken into account when comparing laptops with graphics cards from different brand.
The settings to be used are (AA and filters off if not stated otherwise):
Crysis GPU benchmark (both DX9 and DX10, if possible; you can find useful the this benchmarking tool)
* 800x600, Low settings
* 1024x768, Medium settings
* Native resolution, High settings
Devil May Cry 4 (both DX9 and DX10)
* 800x600, Texture resolution Low, Shadow Quality Off, Quality Low
* 1024x768, Texture resolution High, Shadow Quality High, Quality High
* Native resolution, Texture resolution Super High, Shadow Quality Super High, Quality Super High
World in Conflict
* 800x600, Low settings
* 1024x768, Medium settings
* Native resolution, High settings
X3: Terran Conflict
* 1024x768, Texture quality Low, Shader quality Low, AA Off
* 1024x768, Texture quality Medium, Shader quality Medium, AA x2
* Native resolution, Texture quality High, Shader quality High, AA x4
If you are not in the mood of running all the tests, you should at least run the 1024x768, Medium setting ones, so that all the cards can be compared in at least 1 test. All tests have to be ran without overclocking (you can send later the results with overclocking to compare them).
To calculate your results (only average FPS) you can fill this worksheet. You may include screenshots of the results obtained.
I'm summarizing the results here: http://optimitza.cat/benchmarks/laptops
Here we go!
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What is the download size of each of the demos?
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Dell Studio 15 (1537)
* ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450, 256 MB DDR2
* Intel Core 2 Duo T5800 (2,0 GHz), 3 GB DDR2-800
* Monitor 1280x800
* Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 32-bit
Crysis DX9
Can't run it
Crysis DX10
* 800x600, Low: 32.9 FPS
* 1024x768, Medium: 8.9 FPS
* Native, High: 3.8 FPS
Devil May Cry 4 DX9, average of the 4 scenes
* 800x600, Low: 53.6 FPS
* 1024x768, High: 18.7 FPS
* Native, Super High: 13.5 FPS
Devil May Cry 4 DX10, average of the 4 scenes
* 800x600, Low: 33.8 FPS
* 1024x768, High: 13.1 FPS
* Native, Super High: 10.2 FPS
World in Conflict
* 800x600, Low: 49 FPS
* 1024x768, Medium: 14 FPS
* Native, High: 4 FPS
X3: Terran Conflict, average of the 4 scenes:
* 1024x768, Low: 43.0 FPS
* 1024x768, Medium, AA x2: 29.2 FPS
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Well out of those games I only have Crysis at the moment.
I ran on windowed mode, and for native res-high settings I had to use 1280x720 since my screen is 1366x768 but it is not supported by the tool. Ran three times but only used the last part to write this post otherwise it would take a lot of space.
BENCH RUN- 29/04/2009 02:59:34 a.m. - Vista 64
DX9- results
Run #1- DX9 800x600 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: Low ~~ Overall Average FPS: 72.025
Run #2- DX9 1024x768 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: Medium ~~ Overall Average FPS: 47.33
Run #3- DX9 1280x720 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 30.37
DX10 results
Run #1- DX10 800x600 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: Low ~~ Overall Average FPS: 72.21
Run #2- DX10 1024x768 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: Medium ~~ Overall Average FPS: 45.115
Run #3- DX10 1280x720 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 24.44
Not bad, but not good either haha. I still can't believe that I am having trouble to run a 2007 gamebut well, it is still playable somewhat at native res, but wish I could run it better. It is the only game I have this much trouble running fine.
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Thanks ryzeki! In some results your laptop got lower scores than a 9700M GTS:
http://optimitza.cat/benchmarks/laptops
The possible differences are:
-You ran them in windowed mode
-You used the game instead of the demo
I'm curious about another thing: can you select 1366x768 in-game? The benchmark tool has its limitations, I can't even select 1280x800, that is a very common resolution, so I ran the native tests without the benchmark tool. -
haha i think you need to fix your original post. It says "Crysis (1.8 GB) - Devil May Cry 4 (1.3 GB, the benchmark is only 500 GB, maybe it can be dowloaded alone) - World in Conflict (1.2 GB) - X3: Terran Conflict ( 400 GB)"
i believe it should be 500MB and 400MB respectively. Unless im wrong and these are some crazy benchmarking tools. HAHA -
3Dmark05 = 8400~
3Dmark06 = 4600~
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Dude, read the first post.
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BTW, can we post our FRAPS results on games, different from the demos above? I think it would pretty useful for guys, who own for example TF2 (like me ;P) and wonder on what settings what FPS they're going to make. I have a couple of TF2 bench's, made with FRAPS, while playing in a 10vs10 (+/- 2-3 dudes) match. Should I post them?
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i managed 5820 in 3dmark 06 with my Studio xps 16 that has a HD 3670 in it.
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Well, I reran the tests to check if windowed mode affected, so I ran in full screen tests. Yes, on the game I can run at native 1366x768 and I do so on High settings because Medium looks much worse and does not offer much jump in performance--- I would say my average would be 28 fps on high and native, with lowest fps being 16 and highest about 40.
These are with 64 bits now.
Run #1- DX9 800x600 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: Low ~~ Overall Average FPS: 79.12
Run #2- DX9 1024x768 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: Medium ~~ Overall Average FPS: 54.255
Run #3- DX9 1280x720 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 34.37
Run #1- DX10 800x600 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: Low ~~ Overall Average FPS: 72.885
Run #2- DX10 1024x768 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: Medium ~~ Overall Average FPS: 45.015
Run #3- DX10 1280x720 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 26.86
my thoughts? Well, the scores presented by the Toshiba seem weird, becase being overall similar systems in specs, I have a stronger video card.
1) we have basically the same processor (I use 2.5Ghz speed) and Crysis is only bound on CPU at low res low settings. I should, at the very least, get the same fps here as the toshiba.
2) The 9700M GTS is the exact same card as my 9800M GS except it has less shaders. It has the same stock clocks and all. It should not be able to outscore my card regardless of the tests done.
3) Drivers used. It is true some drivers give extra performance in games, and so far the drivers I am using don't seem to help much in crysis, as I have ran the game better before.
4) OC, maybe me and the toshiba have the card OC, I flashed mine to GTS speeds so now it does not have any excuse to loose to a stock 9700M GTS, so maybe the toshiba user has a higher clock than mine?
5) The demo vs the final game. It is true that sometimes the demo gives a different performance than the final game, sadly I don't have the demo to confirm.
Anyways, I think drivers might be at fault here, since I am basically running a 9800M GTS card, and I might score worse than the 9800M GTS users from other notebooks like the Gateway FX. It is funny because it seems I have the exact same performance as a 9700M GTS, except in DX10 where I got a tad bit higher fps on medium. -
I don't think we need 3DMark scores in here - as you made perfectly clear in your first post you can practically find such scores for every configuration out there. Raw game fps results on the other hand would be much helpful for users, imo.
Here's a quick bench of TF2 I made a couple of days ago:
*My config is in my signature*
Settings:
Resolution: 1280x800 (native for my laptop)
Level of detail: Everything is on "High"
Water detail: Reflect World
AA: None
FPS:
Min FPS: 44
Max FPS: 291 (the game pauses for a few secs after someone kills you - that's when the fps becomes above 100/200)
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By the way, a Spanish user contributed benchmarks of the HD 4650, you may be interested: http://optimitza.cat/benchmarks/laptops -
Run #1- DX10 800x600 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: Low ~~ Overall Average FPS: 81.63
Run #2- DX10 1024x768 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: Medium ~~ Overall Average FPS: 57.88
Run #3- DX10 1280x720 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 39.29
The basic test is CPU bound, the second test may as well be with my card, and the third test is questionable. I recall actually getting higher FPS at 1280 x 1024 because of crappy scaling. 1680 x 1050 DX10 High is still in the 30's.
Here you go:
Run #4- DX10 1280x1024 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 39.38
Run #5- DX10 1680x1050 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 32.16
So tell me please how 1280 x 1024 runs faster than 1280 x 720?
And for future reference, my "playability" build got 36.4 frames with DX9 CCC level 4, 1680 x 1050, same clocks and driver. So yes, I can run crysis just fine >.> -
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OK, so I added your results in the main table:
http://optimitza.cat/benchmarks/laptops
It'd be nice to have more benchmarks of both cards! I think I can get the benchmarks of an HD 3870 and a GTX 260M next week.
I can't find a way to insert a table in the forum, I would insert a copy of the table in the first post... Should I insert a screen capture as in the Spanish forum? -
EDIT: After looking at your table, might I suggest you change the "High" setting from native resolution to something more standarized because it wont help comapring cards when the resolutions are off by a large amount, say 1440x900 vs 1920x1200...If you want to capture the higher resolution settings without compromising the comparabilty of your chart you could add a 4th colum "custom max" or something which would be the highest native if it is higher than say 1440x900 which could be your "High" setting. That seems to be the new average for laptops with 14"+ screens (you're not going to find a decent card in anything smaller anyway". -
FYI: the Devil May Cry 4 benchmark alone can be found here
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That's a nice table, I'll run the rest of the benchmarks when I have the time, probably by the end of the weekend.
DMC4 has 4 different levels benched, which score are we using?
Here's Crysis DX9:
Run #1- DX9 800x600 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: Low ~~ Overall Average FPS: 103.85
Run #2- DX9 1024x768 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: Medium ~~ Overall Average FPS: 69.99
Run #3- DX9 1680x1050 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 33.61 -
Heres crysis benchmark results for my m1730 (T9300, 8800m GTX SLI, 4GB RAM)
DX9
Run #1- DX9 800x600 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: Low ~~ Last Average FPS: 72.30
Run #2- DX9 1024x768 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: Medium ~~ Last Average FPS: 49.50
Run #3- DX9 1900x1200 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Last Average FPS: 32.71
DX10
Run #1- DX10 800x600 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: Low ~~ Last Average FPS: 65.98
Run #2- DX10 1024x768 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: Medium ~~ Last Average FPS: 46.11
Run #3- DX10 1900x1200 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Last Average FPS: 29.64 -
9800M GS 512MB GDDR3 @ 600-1500-800 (GTS clocks)
DMC4
For some reason, the DX9 part of the DMC4 demo is broken for me. I can't see the menu. Here's some DX10 runs, though:
800x600, Low settings
Scene 1: 223.94 fps
Scene 2: 186.00 fps
Scene 3: 221.04 fps
Scene 4: 164.87 fps
Rank: S
1024x768, High settings
Scene 1: 113.08 fps
Scene 2: 86.72 fps
Scene 3: 141.47 fps
Scene 4: 66.00 fps
Rank: S
1280x720, Super High settings
Scene 1: 99.00 fps
Scene 2: 68.23 fps
Scene 3: 129.02 fps
Scene 4: 59.43 fps
Rank: A
X3
Not sure if these went right, my fans were going up and down so I think Powermizer may have been screwing with my clocks. Anyway...
1024x768, Low Settings, 0xAA: 75.8 fps
1024x768, Medium Settings, 2xAA: 68.9 fps
1366x768, High Settings, 4xAA: 57.5 fps
X3 scales really well in terms of Visual Improvement:Requirement Increase
World in Conflict
Low & Medium runs in DX9, High in DX10 (WiC does this as part of its profile settings)
800x600, Low Settings: 85.0 fps
1024x768, Medium Settings: 61.0 fps
1366x768, High Settings: 33.0 fps
Crysis DX9
800x600, Low Settings: 82.76 fps
1024x768, Medium Settings: 56.91 fps
1280x720, High Settings: 33.165 fps
Crysis DX10
800x600, Low Settings: 74.085 fps
1024x768, Medium Settings: 44.12 fps
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EDIT: After looking at your table, might I suggest you change the "High" setting from native resolution to something more standarized because it wont help comapring cards when the resolutions are off by a large amount, say 1440x900 vs 1920x1200...If you want to capture the higher resolution settings without compromising the comparabilty of your chart you could add a 4th colum "custom max" or something which would be the highest native if it is higher than say 1440x900 which could be your "High" setting. That seems to be the new average for laptops with 14"+ screens (you're not going to find a decent card in anything smaller anyway".[/QUOTE]
True. I think a 4th test is too much for most people to run and for the table to keep the legibility... Also the current mix of 16:9 and 16:10 resolutions makes difficult to select a higher standard resolution... I was thinking a lot about that, I finally went that route because similar laptops usually have similar screen resolutions. -
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Your worksheet link is broken.
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9600GT GDDR2 + P8600 2.4GHz
DMC4 Benchmark, DX9
* 800x600, Texture resolution Low, Shadow Quality Off, Quality Low
1 139.45
2 103.14
3 132.30
4 118.80
* 1024x768, Texture resolution High, Shadow Quality High, Quality High
1 56.37
2 41.76
3 63.82
4 36.57
* 1440x900, Texture resolution Super High, Shadow Quality Super High, Quality Super High
1 37.13
2 24.91
3 44.32
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WТF??? I exited DMC4 benchmark to run DX10 version and now i can't find where it did install itself!
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No Overclocks applied
m4400 (All tests performed in Windows 7 RC1 - 32bit, specs in my sig)
X3
Low: 67.3
Med: 61.7
High: 30.0
Crysis - DX9
Low: 98.8
Med: 39.4
High: 8.3
Crysis - DX10
Low: 77.8
Med: 29.4
High: 7.7
DMC4 - DX9
Low: 151.9
Med: 71.5
High:24.8
DMC4 - DX10
Low: 116.5
Med: 54.9
High: 25.4
WIC
Low: 79
Med: 45
High: 19
8510p (All tests performed in Vista Business SP1 - 32bit, 2Ghz T7300, 1.5GB RAM, HD2600 256MB, Native Res 1680x1050)
X3
Low: 63.1
Med: 47.0
High:21.6
Crysis - DX9
Low: 72.3
Med: 26.2
High: 5.4
Crysis - DX10
Low: 64.2
Med: 23.1
High: 5.0
DMC4 - DX9
Low:134.5
Med: 44.2
Hign:22.0
DMC4 - DX10
Low: 79.6
Med: 25.9
High:15.2
WIC - DX9
Low: 61
Med: 28
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Your system RAM is @667 MHz?
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Total is 2303mb
OS is Vista Home Premium 64bit
Yes, my ram is 667Mhz
I ran the benchmark in the full game. Patched to 1.2
Regards Jim -
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I used the Crysis demo. I'll try the X3 run again, but I don't remember seeing anything like that.
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View attachment Benchmarks.zip
Filled out everything but DMC4 DX9, which won't work. Tweaked the Crysis part a little bit to fit in DX9/DX10 and also the fact that it only runs 3 loops and averages the last 2 by default. -
DMC4 Benchmark, DX10
800x600, Texture resolution Low, Shadow Quality Off, Quality Low:
303.485
1024x768, Texture resolution High, Shadow Quality High, Quality High:
189.35
1680x1050 Texture resolution Super High, Shadow Quality Super High, Quality Super High:
107.58
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DMC4 Benchmark, DX9
800x600, Texture resolution Low, Shadow Quality Off, Quality Low:
290.7675
1024x768, Texture resolution High, Shadow Quality High, Quality High:
198.5725
1680x1050 Texture resolution Super High, Shadow Quality Super High, Quality Super High:
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Here are my 1440x900 results for the m4400
DMC4 - DX9: 39.4
DMC4 - DX10: 38.1
X3: 35.3
Crysis - DX9: 13.8(1440x960)
Crysis - DX10: 11.7(1440x960)
WIC: 23 -
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Heres some more results for my M1730.
My results for DMC4 & X3 are both demo versions.
Devil May Cry 4 DX9
* 800x600, Low: 240.93 FPS
* 1024x768, High: 182.085 FPS
* 1900x1200, Super High: 121.79
Devil May Cry 4 DX10
* 800x600, Low: 258.88 FPS
* 1024x768, High: 199.56 FPS
* 1900x1200, Super High: 119.32 FPS
X3: Terran Conflict
* 1024x768, Low: 72.549 FPS
* 1024x768, Medium, AA x2: 72.321 FPS
* 1900x1200, High, AA x4: 58.125 FPS
Regards Jim -
Chart's coming along nicely. I wonder why my benchmarks in Crysis aren't that great compared to the 9700M GTS, while everything else sits in the roughly 25-30% increase area.
If I have time in the next day or two, I'll flash back to GS clocks and get results for a stock G50Vt-X1.
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His are only better at lower resolution mate, its the same for me.
I'm very happy that I'm giving the Nvidia GeForce GTX 280M OC a run for its money. In DMC4 im getting a few higher fps at 1900x1200 than his at 1650x1080.
Thats probably because of drivers, though. Optimized ones for 280M card looks like it gonna be the one to beat.
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Yea, I'm using the new Nvidia beta drivers right now. Might reinstall DOX ones and see what happens.
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I'm using those. Very happy with them at the moment. Saying that I havent benchmarked these games with any other driver.
I dont mind struggling at low res's I never use them to play anyway.
Did the benchmarks for WIC the full game patched to 1.009
* 800x600, Low settings 63 fps
* 1024x768, Medium settings 55 fps
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Don't have the time to so all that sheeet.
3dMark06 scores in sig though.
Post your benchmarks!
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