Proof PC's are superior gaming platforms

rahulsood: Console Gamers Get Killed against PC Gamers

Ok, so not really "proof", more of a "my friend told me his friend said..." situation, but...

 

Yeah, would like to see some more "credible" information on this opposed to just the hearsay, although I have no doubt that PC gamers can destroy "higher skilled" console controller gamers. Would kill to have the "official" findings released by Microsoft on this project.

 

I agree, not very credible. If they tested it and decided not to go through with it, then how do you explain shadowrun? Here is more on the subject. PC gamers vs console gamers ? how to fan a flame war... | Technology | guardian.co.uk

Here is a small quote from the above article.

"Of course, what he seems to be saying is simply that the imbalance is in the control interface – the mouse/keyboard combo allows for much more precise aiming and faster orientation than a joypad. You can possibly also add in the fact that unscrupulous PC gamers are able to install aimbots: cheat programs that effectively do all the targetteting (and often even the firing) for them."

 

Cmon....as a competitive gamer myself I know we're lightyears ahead of the skill console gamers have, I didn't need this article to know it

But on a more serious note PC gamers can adjust their specific mouse settings (thus aiming accuracy) with much more flexibility VIA DPI sens to .001 of accuracy, exact sens to .001 of accuracy, adjust their accel rate ect. This is not even taking into account we can adjust a plethora of latency, rate and interp ratios to a ridiculous level to gain a pure advantage in shot registration. Many of these custom console commands are locked from usage in consoles.

 

Didn't shadowrun gimp the controls for pc players?

 

I heard about this on ScrewAttack news.

I'm not surprised one bit.

A mouse is FAR more accurate and quicker response time than a controller could ever be, period. That's why PC will always win.

 

That's the weirdest article I've ever read. It went from deploring on the decline of quality PC games to imploring developers to create games for webOS and portables. WebOS and Portables are even worse than consoles on tiny 2" screens.

Bizarre article, completely confusing.

I am continuously amazed at how people forget the whole idea of gaming. Gaming is about immersing ourselves in an imaginary/fantasy world. We don't want to be our real selves for a few hours, want to be anyone we want to be. And we certainly don't want to know who the other avatar really is, as that destroys the fantasy/imaginary gaming world/environment.
- It's his type of thinking that is leading morons to create invasive systems like Battle.net 2.0. Blows my mind.

It's as if he's contradicting himself immediately.

Where is his proof that PC Gamers and PC Game developers are leaving to play iPhone apps/games? Does he have any credibility to imply iPhone apps/games are competing with console/PC Games? Is he just making stuff up as he goes? Is he a moron?

 

Yep. You were better off using a controller because keyboard mouse was too gimped. IIRC, MS even stated this was done to "level the playing field".

The funny thing is now, it cost $400-$600 for a current gen console at launch, and now with MS and PS3 adding features to existing tech, you're likely to rebuy that same tech again for another $300-$400 if you want to have the latest and greatest. Laptops are becoming less expensive and more powerful. Even though the PC isn't designed specifically as a gaming platform, I bet you'll see a shift back to PC gaming in a few years when you can buy an $800 laptop that will perform as good as the next gen console that costs $600 + controllers, etc.

 

Although the article is all over the place, I agree with its main point. And I don't think it takes a research grant and a PHD to figure out you can turn and aim faster, and more precisely, with a mouse vs a controller.

 

Eyefinity, thats the only reason I need to make PC gaming better than consoles.

 

I lol at console gamers who say they'd pwn me at sniping. Mouse + keyboard ftw, I love being able to turn as fast as I can move my hand across the desk :-D

 

I remember reading and watching a news segment about this 6-8 year old kid who's dad let him play Halo 2 and Halo 3 online. He literally pwned everybody. If I can Google it i'll post it here but generalizing yeah PC gamers seem to have an advantage versus their console counterparts but then there's always the exception like that little kid.

 

iphone games > pc games for sure

 

no way I hate my iphone for gaming.

 

I love when the guy says that there's no need for high end gpu's anymore. He says an HP Envy can run any game max details. I lol'd

 

Ask him to prove his Envy can run a triple monitor setup with Crysis.

 

At 1366x768 that the low-res Envy comes at, it's entirely possible. I mean, the Envy's GPU is much faster than either the PS3 or the XBox 360's. And playing at 720p "evens" the playing field between the game console and the computer, because the current game consoles barely support 1080p in actual gameplay. Much more often it's 720.

 

Plus, he said the need for MULTIPLE high performance graphics card. That would mean SLI and Crossfire. Many people in the comments section of the article couldn't see this, for some reason :/

 

Pcs have always been way superior than consoles.. but the cost to fun ratio is the only thing keeping consoles alive, and killing pc gaming with that..

 

I find it funny that microsoft quit because it made the 360 pros look bad.

 

For me it's the games themselves that make PC better

High sens ftw. Need only flick of a wrist to turn 360

 

PC's can play that game too, and invariably win.

 

Nothing can compare pc. PC has it all. I prefer PC.....

 

Yeah, if you are talking about raw power then the pc has a HuGe advantage. I just bought a PS3 for games that I can't get on the PC -- uncharted series, LBP, MGS series, God of War series, Madden,etc.

I enjoy gaming in my free time, and I personally don't see it really as what is superior to what, but more-so the selection that is available and what you pick and choose.

* I will put a disclaimer: I would never play a first-person-shooter on a console, unless it was exclusive to the console itself. FPS' are for KB+Mouse.

 

I just read Valve's latest post on the L4D2 Blog. Its the encore for this month's mutation modes, and guess what did the 360 users chose? 4 ninja swords mode. Guess they don't like to aim? I think it makes it obvious 360 players don't play the game for the same reason we do (aside from fun).

 

you havent played a 360 recently have you MW2 is plagued with aimbots people seeing and shooting through entire buildings, highlighting enemy players a bright red or yellow through all obsticles.

as for the control think about this and if you can test it. grab a 360 we'll continue to use MW2 and as a scientific control for the test.

set the look sensitivity on the 360 at its highest and try to spin around a full 180 degrees. still a little slow to turn and its not a highly accurate way of reacting. now try darting your vision behind you in front to the sides and up and down as if you were frantically looking for a hidden enemy while trying to remain pinpoint accurate.

try those same steps with a PC mouse and keyboard setup and you'll notice a huge diffrence even with medium sensitivity settings. its a huge advantage to the pc. the only restriction really is the movement which the controller may have slight advantage with the joystick (I.E. front back and side to side) as it allows more fingers to be freed for other purposes such as reloading ect (one thumb over 2 or 3 fingers on the wasd/arrow keys)

now if somehow in the future they can find an intuitive control system like a virtual headset/helmet where your targeting follows your head/eye movements then the game changes again. but were a ways off from there and noone is gong to allow their money making "golden child" to be so thoroughly humiliated as it would cause a loss in profit.

point to be made. while the PC is superior in control it lacks the geneuine appeal becaue its not marketed properly. to most its an expensive waste in time, the games cant be exchanged for new ones, and not all PC are created equal.

Is it better than a console yes and no the ' for tat' on the pros and cons. the PC more intuitive and flexible the console more balanced and broadly appealing.

 

Also the PC has one ace up its sleeve that i feel makes an absolute diffrence. add this to the flexibility side of it. Modders. NOT hackers but modders. hackers try to break a game modders try to improve it.

On a console if a game blows... it blows theres no redemption. On a PC if somone sees redeaming qualities they will build a mod from that and try to patch a leaky boat to keep it floating.

RTS in general benefit alot by this. more units factions races techs maps ect.
FPS more wepons smarter AI
RPG extra misisons more territory to explore greater depth
MMOs sometimes allow player content that is exceptional or noteworthy or just plain funny... mohawk grenades ... really Mr T/WoW?????????
ect.

 

perhaps but there no need to become combative. i merely posted a reply based on the topic.

 

I think he said he can turn 360-degrees with a flick of a mouse, not that he was using a XBox 360 for turning.

 

Apples and Oranges really.

You can't argue a pc gamer is more skilled because a console player will be more skilled on a console.

As for systems, who really cares. You got a pc gaming system, you are a nerd. You got a console gaming system...you're not that much of a nerd...you got a wii...you are cool hip guy who doesn't play much...

You got a gaming laptop...you are a bad mofo.

 

hehe so im a bad mofo whose a little geeky, but not much of a nerd and sometimes cool and hip

i own all of them, i fail i know *head smack*

 

Ya I don't know what I am? I have them all and then some more!