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    Quadro nvs 2500M vs GeForce 8600m GT

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by speedbooster, Jul 31, 2007.

  1. speedbooster

    speedbooster Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi!
    Should I prefer GeForce 8600m GT over quadro 2500 because it sipports DX10 and shader model 4.0?

    But 8600m is listed class2 while quadro 2500m is listed class1 on notebookcheck.net

    I want to be future ready :)!

    Thanks!
     
  2. Osserpse

    Osserpse Notebook Evangelist

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    The Quadro 2500m >>>>> the 8600m GT. It may not have the 'new' technology, but it has plenty of power to push the 'old' stuff.
     
  3. speedbooster

    speedbooster Notebook Enthusiast

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    So you prefer quadro?

    If there come some new games in a year or two, since game devs dont want to lose customers, they should still be developing in DX9, then I will have problems if i dont have DX10 card?

    So new games wont run right?

    Is there any news of DX10 cards to be put into dell latitudes or precisions within a month or so? so i can wait :)

    Thanks!
     
  4. wuzertheloser

    wuzertheloser Notebook Deity

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    uhhhh
    8600gt is a dx10 club....which is already in latitudes and precisions
    and yes
    dx9 will be around for awhile. so get the quadro if you're into gaming
     
  5. speedbooster

    speedbooster Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi! Thanks for your advice guys!

    1) Do you think that spending around 400-500 USDs on Quadro 2500M is worth it? since DX9 is gonna be down!

    2) How about Quadro NVS 120m in DELL Latitude vs GeForce 8600m GT in inspiron 1720?

    Can the Quadro play compete with 8600m GT? forget about a few units of FPS loss, how about the rest of gameplay?

    Can the Quadro play the games like MS Fligh Simulator X with high details in 1024 resolution? if not higher!

    Thanks!
     
  6. wave

    wave Notebook Virtuoso

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    The NVS 120m is a go7400. So the 8600M GT is not only directx10 but also about 4 times faster then the go7400. Its a no contest and clear win for the Inspiron 1720.

    The NVS 120m will have a hard time with MS Flight X. It will run maybe only at lower resolutions but I dont think it will be very pretty.
     
  7. speedbooster

    speedbooster Notebook Enthusiast

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    All because Im hesitating to buy the Inspiron 1720 is: -

    1) The speakers may be blocked, because they are infront, i guess, there is a subwoofer in 1520, I dont know where, but mainly, the speakers are in the front, so the sound will not be good in the lap!

    2) Although 8600m GT is a dedicated 256mb card, still the 2GB RAM on DELL website, when configuring, is listed as "SHARED"

    Here are the original wordings: -

    FREE! 2GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at 667MHz [Included in Price]



    3) The harddisk is 5400 RPM, and not 7200 RPM, perhaps a major reason!

    4) Dont know if the battery runs for about 4 hours, when simply browsing, since I will be developing websites, so no load!

    Also, is 8600m GT DDR2 or DDR3? a review on notebookreview for Inspiron 1520 mentioned that although the testing softwares/ benchmarkers show its DDR3, it is in fact DDR2...!

    Thanks!
     
  8. hmmmmm

    hmmmmm Notebook Deity

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    okay...

    that is ddr2 RAM (ram used by the system and can be shared by the gpu) , not gddr (GRAPHICS double data rate) ram that is dedicated for gpu use ONLY



    get 160 gb 5400rpm HD and the high platter density should match 7200rpm in data transfer rate of a lower platter density disc. Also, higher rpm HD = more heat = shorter battery life




    for the last time

    IT IS GDDR 2!!!!!!!!!!!

    RIVA TUNER IS WRONG!!! it is meant for DESKTOP not LAPTOP and reads the 8600gt in the laptop wrong

    the e1720's 8600gt IS DDR2 like the vast majority of 8600gt
     
  9. speedbooster

    speedbooster Notebook Enthusiast

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    What does it mean?

    You mean to say there are types of RAMs installed into motherboard which can be shared and which cannot be? I thought all the system RAMs can be shared if the graphics card wants to!
     
  10. dark5

    dark5 Notebook Consultant

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    Well there are two ways Nvidia cards can share system RAM:
    1) Through Nvidia's Turbocache: http://www.nvidia.com/page/turbocache.html
    2) Through Vista's memory sharing feature

    So if the Nvidia card features Turbocache then it'll most likely use that (even in Vista I think?) otherwise you can just use Vista's built in feature for older cards that do not support it.

    Edit: And like everyone else has been saying, the NVS 2500M is a much better card. If you can wait for a bit, however, you might want to wait till UT3 and possibly Crysis come out to see if DX10 features are worth it and if they even run decently on an 8600M.
     
  11. S1CKS

    S1CKS Notebook Enthusiast

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    I actually just purchased the 1720 and had some of the same worries.

    1) The speakers may be blocked, because they are infront, i guess, there is a subwoofer in 1520, I dont know where, but mainly, the speakers are in the front, so the sound will not be good in the lap!

    Believe it or not the sound is still really good, the speakers look very small and yes they are in the front which should be block but sounds good. Unless you have it right stuck to your stomach, which 17" wide screen should prevent you having to have it so close.

    2) Although 8600m GT is a dedicated 256mb card, still the 2GB RAM on DELL website, when configuring, is listed as "SHARED"

    If you run vista (not sure about xp since i'm using vista as of now) you will have 256mb dedicated and up to just over a gig of vid ram total, it will use some of your 2 gig ddr2 ram.


    I Can run rainbow six vegas, on
    Resolution: 1152x864
    V Sync: On
    Hardware Skinning: Off
    High Dynamic Range: On
    Shadow Quality: Very Low
    Motion Blur: Off
    Blur Quality: Very Low
    Brightness: 5

    you get very nice graphics out of the pc, left side gets pretty warm tho if on your lap lol
     
  12. speedbooster

    speedbooster Notebook Enthusiast

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    Where does that memory go? since 8600m GT is a dedi card!

    And you said JUST OVER, so it means its using a LOT of 2 GB RAM! How much does it show?

    Why do you run it will most of the settings set to LOW?


    and secondly, can you please tell me what battery you are using? and how long does it last while simply using web browser, IIS, etc!

    Thanks!
     
  13. speedbooster

    speedbooster Notebook Enthusiast

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    I think I'll have to go with Inspiron, since Wikipedia says that Latitudes come with "broken" hinges from inside and "broken" touchpads. Any reality?!

    On the other hand, also heard on this forum that Inspiron 1720 has problems shutting down properly and crashes for REBOOT, blue screen says a video problem occurred etc
    Here is the
    Thread!

    Thanks!
     
  14. speedbooster

    speedbooster Notebook Enthusiast

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    WOW! In a recent review of Latitude d820n, it is stated that it has battery uptime of upto 7 hours! Brilliant!!!

    But does anybody have any answer to the broken hinges from inside, and broken touchpad?
     
  15. S1CKS

    S1CKS Notebook Enthusiast

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    On the other hand, also heard on this forum that Inspiron 1720 has problems shutting down properly and crashes for REBOOT, blue screen says a video problem occurred etc
    Here is the


    as far as this, i have had it a month now and not had problems rebooting ONCE, only flaw i have found is vista+driver related, but runs great, i love it
     
  16. speedbooster

    speedbooster Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey, thanks, but... Ive decided to go with Dell Latitude D820 N, longer battery uptime ;)!

    Thanks!