QuadroFX 2700m vs Mobility 5870, What?!

Does this seem right?
We ran the Ocus Benchmark v5 on two very different machines.

The first was as follows
Lenovo W700, Core 2 Duo 3.06gz, 2.5GB Ram, QuadroFX 2700m, using Windows XP 32bit.

The second was
ASUS G73JH, Core i7 1.6gz, 8GB Ram, Mobility 5870, using Win7 64bit.

Under this benchmark, the lenovo scores 45.76% faster than the asus in graphics. The CPU score was too close to matter. I realize the quadro is optimized for this task, but the 5870m monsters it in terms of specs.

Was this a fair comparison? Is there a way the score could be wrong, or by some miracle is the vbios THAT optimized for CAD cards that specs are irrelevant?

 

Yep that seems right, you should see a FireGL m7820 steam through pro benchmarks. in some applicationa a pro card can be over 1000% faster than its desktop ( GF or mobile radeon ) counterpart.

example, my wifes HP Elitebook with a FirePro m7820 ( pro version of the 5870) blows my GF 480 in my DESKTOP ot of the water by a mere 500% in MAYA renders.

welcome to the world of where the pro cards make the gaming and desktop cards look like Intel IGP

old but good read, bunch of links here to look at

http://forum.notebookreview.com/wha...y-go-aerospace-engineering-2.html#post6403899

 

why didn't i see this earlier? I'm doing aeronautical engineering at uni and got a 5870... ... still idk , doing MATLB and not MAYA.. but still faceplam..

 

ati card card be software moded to thier fireGL equivalent when they are out you just need to find out how to do for the 5870 and watch it destroy that quadro FX

 

Impossible. Neither Firepro or GF480 makes anything to Maya renders. Maybe when OpenCL/CUDA arrives to Mentalray.

ZevoOptik try this MAXON: CINEBENCH 11.5
No need to Install anything just download and run the OpenGL test.

You can compare your numbers with this list
Maxon Cinebench 11.5 Score Results

 

I second that any serious rendering is done on the CPU for now. Pointless.

You can do hardware renders just to get an idea of what something should look like, but the optimizations of the hardware render impede quality DRASTICALLY (and they are REALLY fast compared to the software render, which you have to do anyway). there are so many interesting graphical things that simply require software rendering at the moment. OpenCL may change the scene in the future, but it's software rendering all the way for now.

 

too lazy and i want a gaming GPU

 

soft mooding imply droping a part of the firegl driver in a specific aplication folder so that aplication think your card is a pro gpu

 

i know all that... been done in G73 but just too lazy.

 

You don't lose anything.

 

doesn't your gaming performance go down? Also don't you have to each time mod the drivers before installing or something? I'm not really sure about this softmod.. in the first place , i don't know what it means.

 

There is no drawback like that. The reason all cards don't come like that is that this way they can milk as much money as they can from those who are willing to pay for such specialized performance.

No idea. In the old days the cards were literally identical except for the bios, so you could easily flash the bios.

 

The gaming performance is actually worse, because the workstation card drivers are optimized for openGL, while gaming cards are optimized for directX, so there will definitely be some difference in performance in directX, not that much though, probably just a little bit worse.

For modding, ATI cards are still like that. But for nvidia cards, nvidia made it hard to mod by doing additional physical modifications to the workstation cards because of the high premium they are charging for their quadro cards, ATI don't charge nearly as much of a premium for their firepro cards.

 

soft moding don'r implie flashing the card just droping a dll of the driver into a specific aplication belive you have a fire gl card because between the gamer and the pro version the one and only diference was the driver and pcie id the b ios was identical

 

It isn't exactly like that. The reason the workstation card may seem to perform a little bit worse is that it does everything for optimal quality, not speed. I'm not sure if they would have identical performance if the settings for a desktop card were set to maximum quality as well. I can't test that and I can't find anyone who has. For the programs workstation cards are used for, the regular cards are intentionally crippled. Only the workstation cards will unlock the full capability of those cards. Benchmarks tend to show from 2-4x performance improvement. That is more than just a little tweaking and optimizing of the drivers.

Cool. I haven't tried or even looked up how to do it in about 5 years. I knew Nvidia changed the hardware, but I wasn't sure about ATI. I believe I did it to my Nvidia 5900 and an ATI 9X00 something.

 

but does your games see the card as the pro card or gaming card? That's my main concern.

 

Then the pro cards would be hitting Autodesk 3dStudioMax that is the 3D Graphics w/ biggest user base and Autodesk Inventor one of main CAD aplications. Both use DirectX.

 

the only aplication where you drop the dll is afected

 

By and large, you won't see much of a difference in games between a pro vs gaming card based off the same card. There will be exceptions. Bear in mind though, that pro cards are usually put into workstation class computer's and those cost FORTUNE.

 

i know that...saw an 8740w and my G73 looks way better.... i think i'll softmod for CAD when i start...

 

Your G73 will have plenty of power as is.

 

But he will double to quadruple to performance in those applications by doing the mod.

 

as long as my card stays as 5870M in games and only firepro M7820 in those apps..