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    R.U.S.E not using Ubisoft DRM

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Baka, Aug 12, 2010.

  1. Baka

    Baka (・ω・)

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    Source here

    Apologies if this had been posted before but -sob- I'm so happy another what looks to be a good strategy game will not use that draconian DRM but rather use steam instead :eek:

    I'm definitely going to get this game if this news is for real :D
     
  2. granyte

    granyte ATI+AMD -> DAAMIT

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    am i the only one who can barely see the diference betwen Ubisoft DRm and steam

    steam has always been a pain for me

    sadly this game looked promising i guess i'l have to kep on sc2 for now
     
  3. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    Okay Ubi, now switch Assassin's Creed 2 to Steamworks, and I'll buy it on that day.
    Steam has an offline mode. The DRM does not.
     
  4. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    lol but i would choose steam anytime compared to DRM..
     
  5. ettornio

    ettornio Notebook Deity

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  6. granyte

    granyte ATI+AMD -> DAAMIT

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    :confused:
    steam also has a crap service try to take over your computer and get whiped by my work AV mode so the offline mode does not work in my case

    and let's not talk about punk buster
     
  7. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    ...SC2's DRM is much more intrusive and limiting than Steam's.
     
  8. xxERIKxx

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    Same here. I have never had a problem with steam's offline mode also.
     
  9. wishmaker619

    wishmaker619 Notebook Guru

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    Well thats a real good news. :D

    Yeah
     
  10. trvelbug

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    good news indeed!
    hopefully their experiment with that drm is over.
    if the reviews give this a decent rating im getting it
     
  11. HTWingNut

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    Good news! Hopefully Ubi has learned their lesson, but who knows.

    Regarding Steam, it's a game delivery system and basic DRM with little to no hassle for the end user. If my internet is down or I'm on the move, switch to offline mode and I'm good to go. Not sure what you mean by "steam also has a crap service try to take over your computer and get whiped by my work AV mode " ??? That sentence makes no sense to me.

    The other thing to remember is that Steam is OPTIONAL, well except for Valve games. You can buy a game through other digital distributors or traditional DVD.

    The UBI DRM is just that, a DRM that *REQUIRES* internet access at all times, and if your internet is down, you're travelling with your laptop with spotty internet, or their servers go down, you can't play... AT ALL. You don't have a choice whether to use UBI or not. If you want to play the game, you are required to submit to their DRM.
     
  12. Kocane

    Kocane Notebook Deity

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    All steam needs is to be logged on online ONE time on a computer. If you cannot do this then too bad... Try opening steam in a proxy or something if its blocked in your localtion, like it is at my school.. Either way, we shouldn't be using steam at work, or school for that matter, should we ;)?

    Steam is great, best thing to happen to PC gaming for years.

    and Punkbuster? It's an anticheat, which imo works well except sometimes it can be a pain in the arse with false detections, but yeah, it's effective.
     
  13. LaptopNut

    LaptopNut Notebook Virtuoso

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    I bet some people will buy it just to make a point. Steam is great but I have experienced its major downfall before and it made me see it in a totally different way. All it takes is one crash and say goodbye to accessing all of your games until you fix the issue.
     
  14. HTWingNut

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    Yikes, what issue is that? Any way to avoid it?

    The more games I buy the more I do get nervous though. I have dozens of games now through Steam. To date no issues (knock on wood) but I know I'll be crying the day something happens. Hopefully that day will never come. I've started buying games through Direct2Drive though, problem is that Steam has so many great deals it's hard to pass up.
     
  15. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    i used to have problems with steam in my old dial up like connection issues etc but now steam much better and had no issues at all for the year i have used it.. in fact i have bought more steam games.
     
  16. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    granyte,

    I am not sure how you can so willingly subscribe to the SC2 digital model and condemn Steam? They actually operate very similarly and as said, SC2 is actually more restrictive than Steam. You log in once to setup your game and then you can play SP offline at any time after that in SC2 and Steam. And I believe you can install SC2 on as many computers as you want, just like games on Steam. BUT, SC2 does require you to be logged in to Battle.net to save your game and achievements. If you lose connection to it while playing SP, you can lose your save info. It has happened to many people including game reviewers. Although losing saves can happen with any game, Steam does not require you to be logged in online to save your games and achievements. It's all saved offline. Some games support Steam Cloud but it doesn't operate in the same way as Battle.net.

    Also Steam (or Valve) doesn't censor and control user made mods. Blizzard (Activision) on the other hand does. And they don't make it none too easy to even find mods you might like either.

    Punkbuster is there for your protection against cheats and hacks. If it sets your AV off with false positives, try lowering your AV settings or use a different one. Often free AVs report many more false positives than those that you buy.

    And finally, complaining about gaming troubles on a work computer is very lame. :p
     
  17. LaptopNut

    LaptopNut Notebook Virtuoso

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    I am not totally sure what caused the issue but it was when I moved to a new Windows 7 X64 install. My old backup was before they released some kind of new GUI so when ever I launched Steam, it simply crashed so I had no access to any of my games at all. Others have experienced similar problems and the only way I found to fix it in the end was to completely re download all of my games and install them. Luckily I don't have hundreds of games. I also had a backup of the entire Steam folder but that didn't make any difference. After that, it made me think just how little control we have over access to our own games that we spent our hard earned cash on. The entire piracy protection relies on the Steam Client so that is really a double edged blade.
     
  18. HTWingNut

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    Ah ok. I've actually used the Steam Backup for most of my games. That has worked beautifully for me. Moving the folder takes FOREVER and I've had issues with doing that as well. I just wish their backup system was better.
     
  19. granyte

    granyte ATI+AMD -> DAAMIT

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    well i almost abcked off on sc2 du to the drm but i bought it and i'm having issue with the offline mode wich works but.....


    well steam's needed data for offline mode seem to be washed off my computer each time i restart the computer so it's useless to me

    and last time i checked steam used punkbuster wich is not what i would call non intrusive
     
  20. xxERIKxx

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    If a game on steam uses punkbuster then the retail version would also. Steams form of anti-cheat is VAC.
     
  21. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    i really love steam even more now considering how many free games i get in their deals.. just got 3 free ones for having an NVDIA card..
     
  22. bks1987

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    Don't try to generalize Steam. It's just your computer having some problems. Most of us don't have your problems. And I have no idea what you meant in your first sentence. Oh wait, there is no complete sentence in your post. So I have no idea what you meant in your entire post.
     
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    Tried RUSE during the steam free trial, didn't like the game at all though.
     
  24. xeroxide

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    steam is awesome, i just get annoyed at how a game can be like 50usd when using a US proxy, then 79 usd when no proxy is used (australia).

    punkbuster is annoying to say the least

    and ubisoft... can go die for all i care.
    the bugs in their games actually mean that buying them and getting them to work is quite often an adventure. heck, i bought chaos theory only to find out it wouldn't work with my 8800gtx. many other of their games (pc ports) did not allow any FSAA... pathetic.