RTX 2070 same as overclocked GTX 1070?

Hi Folks,

Looking to upgrade from the laptop in my sig to a 2070 or 2080 laptop.

I've only found one source with firestrike results for the new notebook GPUs.

Am I right in thinking that the firestrike graphics score for this RTX 2070 is worse then the graphics score for my overclocked GTX 1070?



My score: https://www.3dmark.com/fs/14356419

Welcome any feedback from the community or other firestrike results for the new GPUs.

Thanks.

 

Only gpu that i know that performs same as the desktop models is the alienware Area-51m. Not to mention the i9 cpu... lol, it looks like they did it.

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Where did you see the bench results for the Area-51m?

 

Well, an overclocked 1070 was close to a stock 1080, so in a sense yes, the 2070 is like a 1080 or an overclocked 1070.

The area 51 seemed nice when they revealed it, but the more info appears, the more... cautious I feel about it.

 

I may have been a little excited.. not sure what u guys make of geek bench. But... yeah.. I think or is very promising.

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.tomsguide.com/us/alienware-area-51m-benchmarks,news-29265.html

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Very much the same here. But I can still be excited. I'll wair till HIDEVO get ahold of theirs and start up the bench marks in depth. The geek bench was only with a 1080p screen thought. I would pass on rh3 4k and get a gsync. Windows 10 has to so much input lag it is a joke.

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Yeah right I don't trust this article at all.

And the numbers seem wrong. Meh, just a marketing article claiming the fastest bestest again. Will wait for benchmarks from actual users and comparisons against actual users.

 

I can't see any reason it would outperform a Clevo with a I9 and RTX 2080.

 

They will obviously run the tests with the clevo on battery mode and show how much stronger the dell is with identical hardware.

 

Hilarious, I'm strongly leaning towards the clevo. Options at present are the Alienware/Dell AREA 51M, the Asus ROG G703GX, or the Clevo (PCSpecialist OCTANE VI), I can get the Asus and the Clevo in budget, I've asked Dell to price match the configuration of the Clevo with 9700K, 16GB 2666, 2 x 500GB PCIe SSD, 144Hz 1080 display, RTX 2080, Win 10 Pro for £2,532.

 

If you are going full desktop replacement I think the Clevo might be better. At least the 9700K or 9900K options will make it last a while even if graphics become difficult to upgrade.

It will be interesting if Dell price matches... when a manufacturer makes a new model, they are less prone to price match due to losses.

 

This is the Clevo:


This is the dell specced as close as possible:


I can't see them knocking nearly a grand off!

Clevo will gain my business unless another contender comes along.

 

Oh wow, that is a huge difference, and I can't really see why. Yeah I am not sure I can recommend paying close to 1k more for the "same" system.

 

Paying a grand to Dell for an Alienware badge and tobii eye tracking is still ridiculous.

 

If you have a 1070, why upgrade to a 2000 series GPU, especially when the new laptops are still shipping with 1080p displays?

You might as well just wait for the 3000 series after the new Sony and Microsoft consoles come out next year. These Turing GPUs just don't justify spending $3 grand on a whole new machine, just to get a GPU that has maybe 20-25% over the 10 series you already own.

If they had full bore desktop chips it'd be another matter, but the 2000 series had to be pared down too much to fit in laptops. Every single chip should be considered a Max-Q in my opinion.

 

Selling the X5V7 and adding a grand will get me 144hz, I7-9700K DT CPU, RTX 2080, 32GB 2666Mhz, and 1TB PCIe SSD that's a reasonable upgrade from a 60Hz 4K panel, I7-7820HK, GTX 1070, 16GB 2400Mhz, and 500 GB PCIe SSD for a grand.

 

Interesting:

 

they're coming with high-refresh rate displays. so asus is releasing a 2070 with a 240Hz display.

 

That's seems pretty pointless as even the TITAN RTX only just manages hit 144fps at 1080p, ultra setting, on half the games tested.

Source - https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-TITAN-RTX-Desktop-GPU-Review.400241.0.html

 

If the X5 still gets you that much value I wouldn't blame you. I mean if MSI gives me a really good deal I'll be in a similar position. Otherwise I'm good with my GT73.

240Hz is completely worthless for modern gaming, there's no GPU that can utilize it. ASUS is going to charge a huge premium for the SKUs with that display too.

 

That seems too low imo. Even from an unboxed GE75 from GentechPC's video scored like 25k, and the GT75 scored 26k on firestrike.

The GTX1080 is also around 22K, the numbers seem weird. Users here already showed the RTX2080 reaching near 28k with some OC.

 

The main feature of RTX is the raytracing and "AI" cores and more advanced features such as better DX12 implementation and Vulkan I think, however the programs need to first effectively use them. Otherwise, performance per watt didnt go up much.

Its also worth mentioning that DDR5 may be coming out this year and if it isnt, the next year for certain, along with RTX 3000 series.

 

The highest graphics score with a RTX 2080 (notebook) is 26,608 at present.

 

look at the johnksss and halogod scores they got 27000 in the 20xx thread...

 

It is a 3d Cad card. All the titans are. They had a bigger performance boost becuase of the super gets and NM. The only difference from the gtx and the RTX is the addon of the Self learning ai chipset. This whole thing is an experiment. There are just take a gtx(gaming demands) with a quadro(large format large screen number crunching and cuda count raised for number crunching) and the tesla AI learning chipset. This whole thing is a woeking progress to say the least. What the nvidia telementray does and the other feed back That nvidia gets that we think we disabled which I didn't is the ray tracing feedback and the more we play game with the etc the better drivers come out for ray trace to be no sweat. Hence the rtx titan is a 100 enable so chip not a half asked one. Nvidia/intel and AMD have to stay on the same page on far as intel's problem there NM fabrication and AMD to wait ask well and nvidia. The companies have a "comprising treaty" to prevent a "monopoly". Both Intel and AMD cannot go more than fabrications generation over another.
This agreement was set when intels(32bit) tech and AMD(64BIT) tech was exchanged between one another.


If the agreement is breached

The government would then step in to be the enforcer. (As they did with ATT bing T-Mobile not to long ago. It maybe not be mobile but it was SRY buying out the other major cell company.


Intel is slow orher down. And actualy it is good. Modders need to work on making custom nvidia drivers. To make better performance. As well all know now gsync is not a module it is a ceritfied hand shake over display port teck hands. So is sli ina few ways. And mining cards as well. All these new "tech features" are already here. We just have to crack them to work. Changing values of a simple .inf script. The level of modding is now hex-editing. What do you think Prema mods does hid mods? Hex has edits the chips to get this improvements. The only thing getting in the way is write protection, hand shake Cerifications and Windows 10 with they BS on. Uefi adaption and now they want use to use Windows updates for all of out driver installs...

Sorry I kinda went over board and onto 3 different subjects but yeah.... mybad. Sorry for the bad English spelling and grammar.

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Has the TDP on these been confirmed? Same deal with with the MAX-Q designs.

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yes they are out dude