RTX 3060 vs 3070

What are peoples thoughts on the differences in laptop performance?


I’m reading and seeing a lot that suggests the 3070 is not worth the extra cost.
If this is so, then I might just go with a laptop that has RTX 3060.


Any views / opinion appreciated.

 

Gigantic discussion on mobile Ampere GPUs here.

Also, please be sure to post questions like this in the appropriate forum. This one is for people looking to buy specific laptops, not general hardware questions.

 

Ahh ok.

The thread you linked to — are you kidding me? Lol
Might as well be in double Dutch.
That looks like a bunch of tech guys having a conversation about something for sure! What that is I have no idea....

 

too simplify your right the 3060 is the best choice

 

xx60 class cards typically give the best price/performance ratio. Going above that yields diminishing returns for your money, although sometimes the xx70 class cards are worth jumping to. They aren't this generation though, so just go with the RTX 3060.

 

Max P 3060 and Max P 3070? Definitely go for the 3070. It all depends on TDP for the particular GPU though. TDP is everything this generation

 

I'd just take your typical 3060 and 3070 with similar tgp/tdp and see what the prices/specs are to compare. I've seen 3060 laptops from 1000-2000 but it's a hunt to get what version of the 3060 that comes with it. Usually the higher priced comes with higher tdp gpu, higher hz screen, i7, more ram. I think the minimum for a 3070 is somewhere above 1500, but the low end may have max-q low tdp version. I guess absolute the 3060 would be the best price/perf though. Look at 3rd party benches of the different versions of each gpu if you can find it.

 

why the heck would you spend an extra 600 over 3060 for a 5 to 10percent increase

 

No I was saying a full fat maxp 3060 would probably be the 1500$ one, a maxq 3070 probably the same higher tier price, 1500$. So for that same price I'd go for the 3070mq laptop that probably has an i7 maybe 16gb and the 10-12% better graphics perf. etc All depends on the specs for the price, for example a hexacore i5-10500h would be better then one of the new quad core i7's I would think.

If you're just looking for lowest price best value then yeah just get the 1000-1200$ 3060 version most likely the 65w boosted to 80w.

 

Yeah obviously if its the same price go for the 3070 but good luck finding a laptop with a gpu upgrade for free...like a gs66 with a 3060 is obviously going to be cheaper than a 3070 version....im not sure what your saying as all laptops are not created equal

 

A couple of 3070 laptops for around 1500$ here:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/search...rue&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960&keys=keys

One has a 10750h cpu, the omen, I'd take a hard look at that.

Some 3060's around same price but better cpu I think, ryzen 9 rog zephyrus, probably maxq gpu though. One has a quad i7 though. I'd go for the ryzen 9 version, no detailed info on 3060 but I'd assume it's the maxq.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/search...rue&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960&keys=keys

 

oh nice, yeah your pretty good at shopping for laptops take a gander at the sub forum what notebook should I buy I bet you could help out alot of people...never knew you could get a 3070 that cheap

 

Results for: 3070laptop | Best Buy Canada

they are 2500 in canada


way too expensive....I saw a m15 with a 2070 for 1500 cad

 

That sucks the price difference for just over the border, maybe have a friend just over get it. Either way for any of that you're most likely going to be waiting a while to actually receive it if you get lucky enough to have it in stock.

 

Borders are closed....parents frequently visit the states pre covid..they live 5min from the border

 

Oh had no idea, like it would make any difference overall anyways, (mis)rule by emergency-powers par excellence.

 

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? lol your funny

 

*you're

 

thanks for that i know but dont care (don't) not sure what your getting at

short for do not.....also with gram....widely available i don't see how its relevant considering even dumb people can come across as geniuses with the software...

i got 50pecent in english 12 but aced all other classes....proper grammar does not i quote make you smart

alot of the kids in math 12 and pysics 12 struggled because it required thinking.....english does not require thinking

Should I think in English?
If you want to think in English, you need to make English a part of your daily life. That’s all you need to do. If you use English a lot every day, you’ll automatically think in English. It will happen naturally.

grabbed form google

 

Well it's always so long as the "right" entities are getting paid it's all good to ignore rules, normal private people never get that benefit unless they buy an expensive enough "ticket" so to speak. Plenty of movement/crowds/etc in "approved" things. I don't want to get off topic too much though, not the place for it and the censors don't like it.

 

are you keeping the gateway it seems like a solid laptop

 

LOL yeah my last day to slap a return label on it was the 23rd. I see a few of the closeout deals on 1660ti/2060 laptops now at similar prices with better cpu's, bigger ssds, better screens etc but the hassle of sending it back then waiting for the other one to test etc just ain't worth it to me, this does just fine for my needs and I'm comfortable with it now. I have a thread in the other manufacturers section with more info. BTW was going to head up to vancouver bc right before covid but my passport expired in feb 2020, no go, sucks. I'm a big fan of the anne green gables books and 80s miniseries, don't laugh, and want to visit Prince Edward Island someday lolz

 

oh nice yeah i live in hell aka alberta but was born and raised in heaven aka british columbia

 

Wow Alberta sounds pretty awesome to me, camping nature no crowding. I watch a lot of those cheesy Alaska reality shows just for the photography but I'm too much of a desert/coastal dweller to try it.

 

banff canmore and jasper in the rockies is amazing but im not there lol...like a town on a farm.why the heck did people settle here

 

Getting back on topic here.

I would add that the one step up was also very interesting as more often than not it had a little * next to it, could be rose colored glasses but ill explain my thoughts on that a bit.

For me it started in the Fermi days, I bought the GTX 4602WIN as I generally liked the performance but I also saw how people were dumping their GTX 470's for way cheap and they overclocked quite nicely in comparison to the GTX 570 that replaced it.

670 did quite well in SLI but the writing was on the wall for how support was starting to fizzle 770 were lame ducks but for laptops the 670mx overclocked quite a staggering amount, GTX 970's were dumped for cheap due to the 3.5GB thing even though they still performed well, 1070's in laptops are still well known for being able to OC the memory and core when you open up the power limit.

Not saying you are wrong, not by any stretch of the imagination. I generally look at it like this (with the context above)

xx60 = performance/dollar
xx70 = Worth looking over in earnest, if not justifiable default to the above
xx80 = Your wallet regrets signing that prenup

 

Well yeah of course the higher you go the more luxury tax you pay in price and the gained performance is very very expensive too. Same or within a hundred dollars go for the x70. Only want to pay as little as possible for 30 series laptop new get the x60, although at that point I'd take a hard look at the closeouts of 20 or 16 series laptops. The variance from the desktop card goes way up this generation too, a lot more than last.

 

Right right, I suppose the landscape is different in the mobile arena as the last time I bought a new laptop was the y510p, everything after that was used as my views of the space changed over time.

Just that sometimes the x70 seems to be a bit of a wild card while x80 was always the premium tax

 

That's true if you are looking for a 1500$ price point 30 laptop from my links above you can get either a 3060 or 3070 laptop for around that price. The non-gpu compromises are usually the cpu, ram, hz, sometimes build quality/rep.

x60 maxQ starts at 1000$ going up to 1500 with some ripoffs around 2000. At the 1500 point you are probably looking at a maxP x60 and a maxQ x70 but it's not that easy to find out which version you are getting. I was saying go for the maxQ 70 at the same price.

Just performance per gaming dollar go for the $1000 3060 laptop, but if you are really price/perf oriented I've seen a few 2060/1660Ti laptop closeouts 750-800 saving even more for ~20% less performance. Wouldn't matter at 1080p, less than 120fps though.

From UL timespy scores x80 desktop is 55% more than x80 laptop card, x70 was around 41% difference, from what I remember x60ti(no score for regular 3060 yet) desktop was 35% more than x60 laptop card. Much more than 20 series, 2060 is 21% difference, x70 was 19% difference. No supers etc included.

 

Yeah the RTX3060 is really the best bang for your buck so far. I seen some laptops with it around the $1000-$1250 price range. Its around the performance of a RTX 2070 Super. More than enough for 1080p gaming.

This one especially

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E168342...&ranSiteID=KSV3XuuPAz8-sxO15BjfLJpZpPj_dzyHsg

Its currently out of stock atm but i think its the best specs for the price plus it has a external battery which most laptops dont have and it has 3 storage drives (2 M.2 NVME slots and one 2.5 SATA drive bay).

 

Looks like not too bad a deal there, hexacore cpu with a 3060, unclear what tgp but someone in the reviews said it's 80w-105w making it the middle range, neither maxq or maxp. I take maxp at (100)115w tgp, maxq at (65)80w tgp. Hard to get a read on it's perf without ul score testing though and the listing doesn't say what version it is. I'd take it as 2070rf range.

 

RTX 3070 80W and 115W models compared here. The charts also include data for the RTX 3060 at similar power levels. Apparently NVIDIA has now mandated that laptop manufacturers specify GPU TGP on their spec sheets, so that's a step in the right direction.

 

nice video, i'm not sure why nvidias de-evolving since pascal but this is not good for gamers

 

I think they just tried too soon to bring raytracing to mainstream, all that with more people playing at higher resolutions which require more power on top. Cheap 4k tv's all over.

They should have just pushed the better dlss for upscaling to 2k/4k/6k/8k (and higher refresh rate at those resolutions in dlss), for a generation or two and done more thermal management and efficiency research with regards to full raytraced games then made the jump to rtx.

There are only what less than 30 or so games that even have the RT option! Even desktops could use the time to develop thermal tech better.

 

No one is forcing anyone to turn the RT on, it's a choice really. I like it if I get can it to perform well enough. Great for single player games that don't require 100FPS.. no one is turning it on for competitive. Everyone uses potato mode for those anyway right?

 

Yeah I guess my point was more general rather than just laptops, these monster wattage gpu's are crazy, team green lol. Also the hot running intel for less perf than amd etc And the budget level should have been raised more rather than this bad neutering with not a whole lot of progress over pascal or top level maxwell other than the name. Just feels rushed forced to me with not great results.

 

I'm going to pull the trigger on an Alienware m15 R4, with RTX 3080 (TDP of 125W), I'm upgrading from a 2019 MSI GS65 Stealth with RTX 2080 Max-Q.

 

Or the 3080 lol,,yeah I guess if you have the money why not