RTX 3080 trumps 2080ti by a whopping margin

I like Computerbase's analysis of Ampere graphics.

GeForce RTX 3080 FE in the test: efficiency, PCIe 4.0 vs. 3.0, FE cooler, Fortnite RTX and Async DLSS 6/7

With 320 watts, the GeForce RTX 3080 can consume 50 watts (+19 percent) more electrical power than the GeForce RTX 2080 Ti with 270 watts (Nvidia states 260 watts) and converts this into a disproportionately higher frame rate. The performance per watt increases by 10 percent.

Now the question arises, how fast the GeForce RTX 3080 would still be if it could also only consume 270 watts? What effects does this have on speed and energy efficiency?

RTX 3080 vs. RTX 2080 Ti at 270 watts
To find out, the power limit of the GeForce RTX 3080 FE is reduced to 83 percent, because then the graphics card with a measured 271 watts consumes almost as much power as the GeForce RTX 2080 Ti. Apart from that, no further changes were made. The result is astounding.

The 320 watts of the GeForce RTX 3080 bring a performance increase of only 4 percent in the average frame rate and 6 percent in the percentile FPS compared to a configuration with 270 watts. In other words: when consuming the RTX 2080 Ti, the RTX 3080 is still 25 percent faster. This solidifies the assumption that Nvidia wanted to get the maximum possible speed out of the GeForce RTX 3080 at the expense of efficiency, which the manufacturer did not do with Turing and Pascal.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition Review- a big step forward and the tombstone for Turing Igorslab.de

Since this card is intended for 4K



Edit.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Review roundup from more than 50 reviewers.
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-founders-edition-review-roundup

 

That and there is not much headroom at all, the curve for smaller processes does like to be clocked a little lower for good efficiency gains.

 

why are you comparing a 3080 to a 2080ti



very little diff between a 2080 and a 1080ti

so now you have 30-40 percent between 3080 and 2080ti and its not a big deal

 

Because the 3080 is GA102 while the 2080 Ti is TU102. They are comparable dies.

 

Remember the double amount Cuda cores With half the cores where have 3080 been in this race?

 

yeah but it is what it is 2080ti is the best last gen and the 3080 is like 3rd best this gen granted the 3080ti comes out and I don't see why not....thoughts opinions welcome

 

Jensen literally called the 3080 the new flagship in his keynote...

 

And 3090 will be the 8K card

 

lol good luck with 8k lolz

I see this

3080>3080super>3080ti>3090>titan lolz I know this is not true but holy crap do they have alot of high end selections for almost no gains

 

jensen forgot the 3090 or something and the fact wel will most likely see a 3080ti

 

He didn’t forget the 3090. He mentioned it as a footnote near the end and made it clear that it was a creators’ card, not a gamers’.

 

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and as it stands with guessing the 3090 will be tops for gaming regardless what class they put it in

 

From Nvidia's blog https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2020/09/01/nvidia-ceo-geforce-rtx-30-series-gpus/

3090 is compared to TiTAN RTX
"At the apex of the lineup is the RTX 3090. It’s the fastest GPU ever built for gaming and creative types and is designed to power next-generation content at 8K resolution."

3080 compared to 2080 Ti and labeled the New Flagship.

 

Wow, this is great news, and gives me high hopes for the 200+W mobile version. 16% power shrink only takes away 4% of performance. Better binned mobile GPUs will definitely achieve over 90% of the 3080 performance!!!

 

Does not necessarily mean it will follow same linear scaling downwards. All components on desktop cards is of better quality and are more power efficiency. Do not skin the bear until it has been shot

 

Shouldn't be like the opposite? I mean that mobile chips be more power efficient and better binned?

 

I mean the components. The card contain more than the chips

See also https://www.igorslab.de/chip-ist-ni...uungen-bei-der-geforce-rtx-3080-und-rtx-3090/

None know what Nvidia will do for notebooks.

Mobile Intel BGA chips is binned for low clocks and power efficiency. And all sucks!

 

I am glad I sold my 2080ti a couple of weeks ago for $1000, lol. I do know that I'll pick up the 3080 and then be sad when the 3080ti comes out, but I won't lose as much money as if I had kept the 2080ti.

 

lol, decided to get multiple refreshes going on nvidia, newegg, bestbuy and amazon....

To watch each site slow to a crawl and then watch best buy go from, "coming soon" to "sold out" across the board in one refresh (literally 5 seconds) is always amazing to watch.

newegg basically froze.

nvidia wouldn't refresh

and yeah all sold out....

 

Maybe wait until AMD Radeon RX 6000 series is released. Todays Flagship should have more vRam than the previous Flagship 10GB is on the low side for future use.


NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 officially launches today and in just a few yours you will be able to purchase one. However, do not be disappointed if you won’t be able to find one in stock. In a few weeks (~2 months) you will be hearing a lot more about the RTX 3080 20GB. The 10GB model may not look like the best offer at that time.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 >>10GB<< 20GB videocardz.de

 

I slept through it all. Kind of happy actually, I'd like to see some data on what AMD is doing and some 3070 raw numbers as well. I think I might have to get a new power supply for the eGPU to handle a 3080, it might be a little tight. I think it can probably manage with a little headroom left over, but its right on the edge. I think $699 is about the edge of what I'm willing to dump on a new card, I really don't care if nVidia launches a 16G 3070Ti or 20G 3080. 10G should be enough for a couple years, I'm not even running 4K at the moment. Besides you can just turn something down one notch from UBER ULTRA LARGE TEXTURE PCMR usually and save a good chunk of vram with no appreciable visual downgrade.

 

3080 isn’t enough over the 2080ti for an owner to purchase in my opinion. Not if they want to be content to with it for another 2 years for a measly 20-30% gain in rasterization.
Having the 3090 as the only step up for an additional 20% performance for x2 the price (RRP $AU2500 or $3000 after in the Australia peso) seems a bit goofy too.
I love the Nvidia designs but the AIB coolers like like crap - same tired old reused plastic Fisher Price looking designs.

I managed to secure an evga 3080 for RRP but even still I’m thinking I’ll cancel it and stick with the 2080ti until a 3080ti comes around.

Dunno boys, not sold on these so far.

 

you have 30 days to play with it

my 2080ti is more than enough for my 2k gaming need so as much as i like to have the latest shiny thing, I'm okay just watching on the sideline

 

Buy a flagship card for the future with less vRam than yesterdays isn't progress or a good purchase. I would skip the 10GB card. It will lose its 4K value before time (A bad purchase if you intend to have it +2 years). Still a bad purchase for short time ownership vs. what is coming.

I wonder what they will charge for the double amount vRam for 3080. +100$ ?

Gigabyte confirms GeForce RTX 3060 8GB, RTX 3070 16GB and RTX 3080 20G

And the 3090 is double the price. Damn expencive vRam package

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 is ~19% faster than RTX 3080 videocardz.de

 

overclocked 3080 beats sli 2080ti...yes big deal indeed...hmm what have you i see the anger is strong with this one

https://www.3dmark.com/search?_ga=2...ck=&maxGpuMemClock=&minCpuClock=&maxCpuClock=

 

Where can I see this in the link?

Could you add in the 3080 scores you found? https://www.3dmark.com/fs/19573119 for comparison.

 

If you look at run details of the best RTX 3080 score, you'll see that run compares to other setups, including a Premium Gaming PC (2020) with a Ryzen 9 3950X and dual RTX 2080Tis... that still outscore it.
But anyways, I made a Time Spy comparison between a system with some dual RTX 2080Tis vs that RTX 3080 system with the same CPU. The former still produces a better score, overall and graphics.

 

I already looked on graphics results in his link while I found the 2080 Sli score. Cpu or overall score won't change the graphics score. Or better say shouldn't be count in.

 

sorry was just a quick glance...looks like the 3080 scores as high overclocked as a 2080ti setup does in sli according to 3dmark graph after scoring ...but according to benchmarks I guess its still king


premium pc with dual 2080tis scores 35000 the 3080 scores 34000

 

lolz 74000 vs 35000 and you think thats a common score bro???lol again pretty rare probably like 1 in a million..

bare with me im getting dumber day by day...terrible illness

 

Well I read somewhere that the RTX 3090 won't support SLI, so maybe the SLI RTX 2080 Ti will remain as highest score?

 

2080 Ti Sli will still score a lot higher than 3080. Oc'd or stock.
3080 vs 1080 Ti

Will depends on Futuremark or if some can find away around Nvidia's shenigans.

How about creative and other non-gaming applications — will those still support multiple GPUs?

Yes, many creative and other non-gaming applications support multi-GPU performance scaling without the use of SLI driver profiles. These apps will continue to work across all currently supported GPUs as it does today.

lhttps://videocardz.com/press-release/nvidia-sli-support-transitioning-to-native-game-integrations

 

Honestly, I don't see multi-GPU from DX12 going anywhere for games. SLI was such a great feature, what a shame that UT4 engine, and many others new engines didn't include SLI support, I'd say they killed SLI. Hardware accelerated PhysX was other great feature: realistic interactive fabric, interactive smoke/fog, breakable floor, interactive papers... none of those things are implemented on today's games

 

3090 will be the ONLY ampere card supporting SLI. https://www.techpowerup.com/271710/nvidia-reserves-nvlink-support-for-the-rtx-3090?amp

 

What is happening here, there's ZERO way a 3080 is beating an SLI 2080Ti setup unless the software in question does not function well with SLI or the SLI setup is in some way malfunctioning.

 

no no bro...I saw the premium laptop slider and it said 35000 for sli 2080ti and then saw an overclocked 3080 score 34000...so I drew the conclusion the 3080 could match the 2080ti but according to papusan and facts the sli 2080ti can be overclocked like 50-100 percent above stock in some situations(1 in a million) and scores 74000 gpu in FS....which is insane and if I had my grubby hands on that I would be probably future proof for ten years at 1080p low

 

But what about average 3080 score vs average SLI 2080 Ti????? the average 3080 match the average SLI 2080 Ti? is it close? I don't care about the outliers.

 

short answer .....yes

 

And only native (in-game) implementations at that. So the driver profiles used to enable SLI in DX11/OGL and older games will no longer work on Ampere.

https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/ans...KUXBGMHpEcFQyMzVDdUpGSjdxZ2FGeEN4VGxnJTIxJTIx

 

Remember how people speculated that nvidia is power limiting the 3080 so that it isn't super power hungry?



Tl:dr
2% performance improvement with all 5 shunt resistors modded. Performance cap is Vrel and VOp so basically the cards are bumping up against nvidia's set voltage limit.

So funnily enough, what was useful on desktops might only be useful in laptops if nobody figures out how to bypass this stupid voltage cap.

 

But you should buy a 3090 instead...

 

At least you get a few points more in benchmarks.


Leaked benchmarks show the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 offering as little as 5% better performance than the RTX 3080 for over twice the price notebookcheck.net

More benchmark data about the GeForce RTX 3080 has leaked ahead of the card's official release next week. Based on initial findings, NVIDIA's $1,499 card only just outperforms the $699 RTX 3080 in many triple-A titles and by a margin as slim as 4.7%. The RTX 3090 fares better in synthetic benchmarks, but it can only achieve a lead of 10-20% for over twice the price of the RTX 3080.

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-N...t-it-can-consume-nearly-60-more.494757.0.html

These things are bonafide space heaters...

 

Thats why Nvidia called the 3080 their flagship gaming card.

The RTX 3090 is a benchmarking card.

 

People that want to win the benchmark wars will spend for it..

 

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(I kid that is impressive)

 

yeah I don't think anyone was expecting this, I just assumed it would be quite a bit more powerful.

anyone else find it funny with pages and pages of speculation nothing is right...i said why would they make the card twice as big with only a less than 10 percent increase in power, and if i remember correctly no one agreed.

Hes getting 60fps on nightmare settings at native 8k/60 and it's a newer game( doom eternal) not the most demading game but lets see a 3080 come remotely close to that..that would mean the 3080 would have to get 4k at 240 fps on nightmare settings granted it was not cpu bottlenecked and to put it bluntly NO it does not get 240 fps at 4k or even close. 1499.99 for alot more power end of story.

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/galaxs-internal-roadmap-confirms-geforce-rtx-3080-20gb-geforce-rtx-3060

If the rumor of the 3080 20GB having the exact same specs but only a bump in memory size is true that's a little undesirable. Depends on how much more money I have to plunk down. I love how nvidia is rumored to be making their entire product lineup somewhat confusing due to projected pressure from AMD. Seeing how I MAY have to upgrade the 550W SFF power supply in my EGPU already due to the existing TGP, adding another 10GB is just going to notch that TGP up further. It seems GDDR6X is probably expensive, I don't see it costing less than another $100, it's probably going to be more like another $200 I don't see nvidia not trying to capitalize on the price of the 20G card, then potentially another $120-180 for a decent 600W or more power supply.. no.. no thanks..

I guess it remains to be seen once AMD announce what they are doing, but I don't think I'm going to be game for dropping another probably $250 minimum, most likely $350+, so just to get another 10GB of GDDR6X. I'm not even running anything at 4K, and if I did get a lightweight 17" with a 4K panel, the odd game that did not work well with 10GB of VRAM i can just reduce the texture quality one notch. Here's to hoping DLSS 2.x proliferates to many more games now that we've seen that it's proven to be a groundbreaking tech for performance while retaining IQ.

 

HFM I know a little about computers, and wanted to let you know you might want to get the 20gb 3080 as the new consoles are incoming with 16gb and 14gb of vram...ports will need an insane buffer so don't get suckered into the 10gb.