RTX 3080 trumps 2080ti by a whopping margin

OMG, this lack of stock and stupidity of people is beyond my understanding, lol:

 

rip to the buyer

 

Not with the eBay money back guarantee, or even PayPal buyer protection.


You can sell something as “broken”, the buyers gets the item as “Broken” they file a claim saying it is broken, and they win the claim! And you have to refund them.

 

"Congratulations, you just played yourself."

 

Yeah I kinda understand both sides... both are to blame in this case, the seller is to blame because the price of the item suggests that he is actually selling a video card (although he states in the title that is the box only), and the buyer is also to blame because he is just an idiot that can't even read a title, lol.

I've also seen weird scams on eBay that I can't figure what's the point of it and also how the scammers do that, take this example:



Ok, this is clearly a scam, because there is absolutely no reason to someone to sell a new hot sell item which is being traded for over $1100, to sell it even far below the MSRP. And the seller seems legit, I mean a lot of sold items, 100% reputation... everything seems legit, except for this:



It has been a very long time since the seller actually sold something, which makes me think that maybe this is an stolen account or something like that. But again I don't see how the fraudulent seller is going to get away with it. I've seen tons of this kind of transactions on eBay for the 3080, where an apparently legit seller sells the video card for a ridiculous low price, though I'm pretty sure is just a fraud. Also all of the titles are the same, claiming a clearance sale. So I suspect it's actually just the same guy trying to scam people

 

Lol yeah reading comprehension is sorely lacking nowadays. That being said it's amazing what people will buy, just lookup nintendo console boxes etc But in fact the buyer may have KNOWN it was likely a scam and known if it was they would get all their money back anyways through ebay protection. They might have thought it was worth a try to get an amazing deal if it was a gpu. There's very little risk to buyers on ebay really, even if an item comes as described they can just lie and get all their money back. Only time there is no option for return is if it's sold as for parts or not working condition and clearly stated and with pictures. That being said even if it is sold that way BUT the seller puts in ambiguous language like "you could maybe fix it" etc ebay might allow a return or refund on items sold as broken so be careful with your language if you sell on there.

 

What do you mean?

 

the process of buying and losing then getting your money back....win lose win back to square one thats all he was saying

 

yeah I get the point of view of the buyer, he has probably nothing to lose except for time. But what the fraudulent seller has to win at? doesn't he knows that he won't actually get the money until the buyer gives him a positive feedback?. I have some theories about:

1. Maybe the scammer will try to convince the buyer to give him a positive feedback before the buyer actually gets the item. The guy who does this "clearance sales" does this kind of transactions several times at day, so if gets to convince only one or two people he gets several hundred of dollars.
2. The scammer try to generate a fake balance on his PayPal account to scam a third party with some promise of money, and shows a screen shot of his account balance or something, I don't know.
3. The scammer is just that big of an idiot that he thinks it would work....

 

Yeah maybe. It's more likely the seller is going to claim to ebay, after the buyer realizes all they are getting is a box, that buyer got exactly what was described and seller would be correct. Buyer probably just bought it out of rushing to get a good deal and didn't read the whole auction. In that case the buyer could just crush the box or etc and claim it wasn't as described, the money would come back bc ebay always backs the buyer unless it was described and listed as broken for parts only. Doesn't matter if the buyer leaves positive feedback or not, if it's within 30 days they can claim it was sent not as described. I once sold an HDD that was in working condition and was left positive feedback, the buyer did a crystaldisk check and the disc had some bad sectors, which I didn't know about. I had to accept return of it, pay return shipping and full refund. I kept the disk and it's still good to this day just a games install disk, that was like 2 years ago.

 

I hope we are all suprised when they do drop. we already have a 2080ti like chip for the studio laptop so its not hard to imagine that we will see cards in laptops pulling well ahead of the 2080ti desktop. But IMHO im more excited to see what AMD offers, hopefully it will drive prices down and we will get some competition which benefits the end user....us

 

The AGA is EOL. And never meant to be compatible with RTX 30XX Series cards.



http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ll-13-15-and-17.770323/page-473#post-11059045

Yeah, finally have Dell been able to remove last upgrade path for any of their notebook. All left is BGA in all shape and form + the non-upgradeable gaming flagship. Yeah, they finally nailed it.

 

I wouldn't have expected anything else. After all Dell/Alienware is the Windows parallel of Apple. Soldered ram, soldered wifi card etc. No way are they giving you the opportunity to extend the useful life of your device.

 

quick question does this affect the new thunderbolt 4 egpus?

 

@Papusan You were absolutely right about the lack of stock on RTX 3000 series cards. It has been more than 2 months since launch date and it's impossible to get a RTX 3000 card from Nvidia or AIB partners

 

@Tyranus07 are you going to skip this generation? 1080 sli seems pretty strong

 

I'm building a desktop and trying to catch up a 3080. SLI GTX 1080 is strong, but there is no actual support for SLI in newer games since a long while so I'm stuck with single 1080, and there are a few games that I can't run as I'd like to. for example SW: Jedi fallen order. In a few areas I get under 60fps at 1080p with high settings, so I quit the game lol... Plus I wanted to play Control but I want fully enjoy Ray Traing so I need a RTX graphic card.

 

yeah my gtx 1060 struggles with that game and same for rdr2 and msfs 2020 and crysis remastered...but then again I don't mind running on low....but heck even on all low I have difficulties netting a consistant 40-50fps in rdr2 no settings allow for 60fps.

this guys getting over 60fps on all low but for some reason i get 30-50
(130) GTX 1060 | Red Dead Redemption 2 - 1080p All Settings - YouTube

 

I know the feeling. I had a 1660Ti for a little while, it was tough.

Anyways, I’ve got my 3080 performance. It’s actually a 2080Ti, but good enough!

 

Yeah I got too spoiled always playing games at high settings over 90 fps @1080p, lol.... now is hard to me going under 60fps (I can literally feel the stuttering).. So I just dropped those games and wait until I get a new system

 

Is your 2080Ti shunt modded? Power modifying a 2080 Ti releases it's true power

 

i'll be hoest under 25 is stutter for me 30 feels ok 60 feels great but i can live with 40-50

 

This 2080Ti is not shunt modded anymore. It was but I have desoldered the 8 Ohm resistors since water cooling it. I have a 380 watt Galax bios that I run. And on watercooling running about 40-42C it pulls very little power in most applications.

I have owned (4) 2080Ti’s, and If you have a NON-A then you must shunt mod the GPU. Stacking 8 Ohm resistors on the card. “Very Easy”

As for unleashing the power, for sure! The 2080Ti is so dang watered down! very much! Nvidia had no competition in 2018. And you can beat a RTX3070 by nearly 30% while having 11GB Vram. You’ll hang around stock RTX3080 FE performance levels while being drastically faster than a 6800XT in ray tracing titles. So the card is very competitive against anything even being 2 years old. The Raytracing performance is even just as good as Ampere.


One thing pretty interesting about the 2080Ti is that you can Nvlink them. This isn’t your standard SLI and it actually works very well. The bandwidth capability between the (2) cards is double that of a standard RTX2080. It works pretty well in most modern games. But you’ll always have those odd ball titles that don’t work with it.

I am looking forward to Cyberpunk 2077, and having the juice to run it! So I am very glad I watercooled my 2080Ti. If (2) cards scale decently in that game I may go that route as well.

 

Even 60 doesn't feel smooth to me any more especially on fps games.

 

Yeah I set my frame cap to 60FPS in rivatuner. And it feels pretty rough to me. I prefer 70+ minimum.

But ideal would be 100+

 

good golf game

steam code

FW94W-Q3TAF-HYFKF

 

just like asus pro studiobook does, with a vapor chamber and liquid metal

 

And how does that model actually run? I haven’t seen any reviews on the RTX 6000 version. Somehow I doubt such a thin and light unit can effectively dissipate 300W of heat, vapor chamber or not, given the physical constraints of the form factor when it comes to fin area.

 

With both the CPU and GPU loaded, we can see that the CPU is given about 35W to play with, while the GPU is given up to 200W of power. As such, thermals are maintained very well, with the CPU running at below 90°C at all times, while the GPU reaches up to 86°C

https://pokde.net/review/asus-proart-studiobook-one-review

 

Looks like the GPU has a 200W power limit, and thermal throttles (Turing temp limit is 87C), thus is unable to maintain 200W for most of that combined load test.

 

And the unlocked Cpu capped at 35W couldnt help the graphics. I expect it use Unified heatsink as rest of the gamingbooks. Yet another Joke.

 

@Papusan

you should see how long you can rock a 980, very wise when you purchased and as its appearing your laptop might just survive this new generation of ports

 

Yeah, the 200W 980 is slightly faster than the 1060 desktop cards. Should still work ok for some 1080P gaming I think with some proper settings. But I'm not a gamer (haven't the time). Will see what Clevo can push out for X170. And Amber lake and new socket 1700 is on the way 2021/22. Most likely also with DDR5. Will see what happens. Would enjoy the coming 3080 for benching but have to see how these MXM cards will pan out first. Remember Nvidia wen back to old disgusting behaviour for gamingbooks. All cards will be back to Mobile and not with desktop performance.

GeForce GTX 1060 Review guru3.com




https://hwbot.org/submission/416223...e_strike_geforce_gtx_980_(mobile)_15104_marks

Edit.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Mobile with 5120 CUDA cores videocardz.de

It would appear that the GPU scored 101621 and 110839 points in two separate tests, which puts it between desktop GeForce RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 SUPER series based on Turing architecture.

The GA104 is crippled as expected vs the 3070 desktop cards

 

yeah I dont get 13000 I get just barely 12000 your 980 is quite a bit faster

 

why are you guys complaining about faster than 2080ti desktop performance, thats insane

 

Because its not.

Besides, the 3080 mobile can and should be faster. A mobile 3080 thats just a 3070 in disguise WILL NOT DO.

So what if its fast, if you're paying 3080 money, you want to get a 3080, not a 3070.

 

its in a laptop???

and how is it not a 2080ti the desktop 3070 out does a 2080ti and the laptop 3080 has more cores at the same speed as the desktop 3070??not sure where your coming from..most laptops are 1080p and this will ensure they are good to go performance wise for the next 8 years.


do you really think we should get a 3080 level card for something thats a fraction of the size? some physics has to be involved, just because you want something doesn't mean its even possible....i want a magic carpet but will never get one.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Specs | TechPowerUp GPU Database
Magic carpet - Wikipedia

 

I agree with @seanwee it's the price you are paying for the performance of a 3070.

Also if it performs the same as a 3070 just call it a 3070 not call it a 3080 and charge a premium for it.

 

1. 2080 Ti and 3070 are basically identical in performance
2. Mobile 3080 won’t clock as high as desktop 3070, not at 150W. It’ll perform more like a 3060 Ti.

 

but when has this not been the case laptops have always been more expensive?? like its like you get amnesia everytime a new gpu comes out....laptops cost more period and will the exception of pascal they are always weaker.

 

oh ok yrekabakery I thought the mobile 3080 would be on par with the 2080ti desktop I must have read something wrong...I thought the 3080 mobile had more cores at the same speed as a desktop 3070...can you guys post the info so others can see..

also even if its not on par with a 2080ti wont it be close

 

Realistic performance expectations:
3080M = 2080 Super
3070M = 2070 Super
3060M = 2060 Super

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/alleged...and-rtx-3060-mobile-gpu-specifications-emerge
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Specs | TechPowerUp GPU Database


this is where i was getting my info..

desktop 2080 super?


bah just looked up benchmarks it scores 27000.... i hope you guys are wrong I was actually excited

 

Yes. You will be lucky if 3080M can perform like desktop 2080 Super. 2080 Super Max Q perform like desktop 2060Ti, expect that gap to widen in mobile due to ampere power consumption

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/alleged...and-rtx-3060-mobile-gpu-specifications-emerge

And I agree with the above poster, at 150W the mobile 3080 will perform like the desktop 2080 Super or 3060 Ti. Only at 200W will it be at the level of the 2080 Ti or 3070.

 

My 980M barely touches 9000 in FS.

 

You want to pay more for less be my guest.

 

Now history repeats itself and the 3080M will be as far behind the desktop 3080 as your 980M was behind the desktop 980.

 

oic yeah thats not good...maybe i'll wait 1 more generation and no im not paying more for less....I see no need anyways to upgrade maybe like 2 games need the power

 

The only way it makes sense is if you are jumping generations(or replacing dead equipment) and getting a huge upgrade FOR YOU. There are always going to be fools who jump on the latest and greatest for vanity, benchmarking and "cred" lol. DLSS and other tech advances for new games do make a case though if you are getting a qhd/4k external monitor but those still seem pretty expensive for normal usage.