Radeon 6970M Missing from Sager?

Weeks after I ordered and got my Sager NP8150-S1 with 6970M in it I noticed it's no longer available as an option. Anyone know why?

 

Sorry about double post, i just found a thread about it in sager section.

 

Here is from one Sager/Clevo reseller: Notice regarding AMD 6970M Graphics Cards

 

I wonder what will happen to customers who already own a notebook with a 6970m. I bet people who paid extra for the GTX 485m are smiling right now.

 

nothing. if the card is defective a swap will be made, standard procedure

you mean that the people who paid 500 bucks for a card that perform as good as a card half its price? yeah I hear they are trowing a party right now

 

Guess it comes down to one of either things, though people shouldn't really have to choose:

Reliability

or

Price.

Mr. Mysterious

 

Touch a nerve did I ? I only say they're "smiling", as many on here pushed the economic benefits of the 6970m over the gtx 485m [including myself] and simply dismissed the 485m as an option. I just thought a bit ironic.

Anyways, if SAGER/Kobalt/ etc... are no longer supplying the 6970m, is this a CLEVO reseller thing and ATI will still produce them, or is this a top down decision from ATI ?

If there's that many stability issues, I'm guessing (imo) ATI will stop producing them and move onto the 6990m.

Just some thoughts.

 

no you didnt touch a nerve, far from it, I like my notebooks to be as small as possible, so those gaming notebooks are far from what I want or desire. Nor do I prefer either vendors.

However, as you may be aware there is something called traction in social environments, that is where people lose the communal intelligence and rather base their line of thinking on whatever they feel provides them with more security, being that, usually the most aggravating thing that they manage to agree.

There is a line of thinking that provides that nvidia cards have better drivers, this was true long ago, more than probably before you bought your first pc.

There is also a line thinking that nvidia produce better quality cards, which is also not true if we look back a little bit with the 8000 series.

There is also another line of thinking that says nvidia cards are always faster and the refreshes are always good, which is also not true. no point in making that they compete with each other, or even that both companies rebrand their cards, in this regard nvidia is currently the most aggravating party, since it has rebranded its entire line up, with the notable exception of the gtx 485m, we will see how the gtx 580m fares.

Another thing is that the 6970m is still in the aw portfolio, will see how it fares.


So yes, just a thought

Sarcasm is treated with sarcasm, info with respect

 

Sounds more like a bad batch of productions to me, they mentioned in that link that previously shipped 6970m have no problems or whatever, I haven't heard any failed 6970m so far either in sager/clevo or AW forums, if it's a wide-spread problem, it doesn't make sense Dell still keeps supplying them to the M17 line.

 

One of the resellers said they were getting a 40% fail rate during testing, that is why they were stopping the 6970m. That also means that they caught a lot because of their testing, so those that made it to customers passed. I think this is reminiscient of about a year ago when a lot of people had issues with the 5870m in the Asus G73's. A lot of people came on the Asus forums here with BSOD and such, but a whole lot of us didn't have any issues. A year later my 5870m is still running great.

I agree with the poster that said it may well be a batch of cards. If you have one, I wouldn't worry. If you bought it from a reseller, it probably was tested and passed. And it still has warranty. I think they stopped carrying it because they rely so much on customer satisfaction that they no longer felt they could continue to go through so many cards (and the inevitable wait for the buyer if the card failed) that they just felt it was the best deciscion to discontinue it.

I do have the 485m in my Sager, but that was just by luck. I was waiting for the 6970m to come out, but found an employee of Sager that sells them on CL here in Socal. I got a great deal on mine (less than $1900) for 12gb ram, momentus xt hdd, the 485m, 2820qm, all I had to do was add the caddy so I could put in the ssd. And an extra power supply came with it, so I can leave one at work. But like I said, I love the 5870m in my Asus, and was waiting for the 6970m to come out when I stumbled upon this one.

In short, I think if you have one already, you will be happy and fine with it. And if there are any issues, RMA. It is a great card, but I think Sager got a bad batch. On the Asus thread last year, some people were RMA'ing and getting bad ones again. That was because they all came in the same batch that Asus bought (My guess). But yeah, there is no way I would have paid a premium for the 485m. Especially not near double. So enjoy your card, and if there is an issue, use your warranty.

 

Yeah, bringing up quality/reliability issues isn't going to be a winning argument for either side.

 

I wonder if Alienware is having issues with their 6970s, but this is bad for the market, without someone pushing Nvidia, they will simply continue to put the absurd prices of their high end cards. Either way i can see why Asus n MSI moved away from it.

 

We can all say we shouldn't worry but a user who has had his laptop for 3 weeks which passed all testing before being shipped has failed. His graphics card was also the 6970M. It could be bad luck or it could be due to a bad batch.