Radeon 9700 PRO VS. Nevidia 8600 GT

I was just wondering which video chip is more powerful. The nevidia 8600 Gt or the Radeon 9700 PRO. I read somewhere that the radeon was good but I dont know if its comparable to the nevidia. Also does anyone know the best card out there?

 

The Radeon 9700 Pro is a very old card (despite being very powerful for its age). The Nvidia 8600GT is nvidia's newest mainstream card and will absolutely own the 9700 pro. 9700 Pro is 2002/2003 technology, though it held up really well. In addition, the 9700 Pro is DX9, whereas the 8600GT is DX10. Their architecture is also different.

 

heh i dont think anyone had to answer that, the age difference makes it obvious.

 

The radeon is 1100 higher than the 8600 though. Although a Pro is not as fast as a GT.

 

rofl. quoted for great justice !!!!!!

 

The 8600GT is much better. However, the 9700pro will hold it's own against the lower 7300 and low end cards still...even though it is 5+ years old.

 

I miss the ATI 9000 line, I also loved the X800. *sigh* ATI, where have you gone! I'm buying a freakin 8600m GT when it should be an ATI 2600m PRO!

Bah.

 

Good old 9700! it died in my laptop, then i went to get it fixed...it now says 9600 (2yrs ago)...hmmm still what a great card it is!

hmm i agree I would rather be getting the HD2600 then 8600.....grr

 

My 9200 can still pump out a decent frame rate in HL2/CS:S, I just have to skimp on the eye candy.

I wouldn't mind having an 8600GT though.

 

What res+settings do you use in CSS? I m using 1024x768 no AA, no HDR low shadows, but High everything else... getting 30fps+

 

I love you man. At least someone who doesn't think that the 8600's amount of VRAM makes it better. (Hey maybe the Ford Pro is a cheaper slower version of the Ford GT?)








The best laptop GPU out atm is the nVidia Go7950GTX, the most advanced is the nVidia 8600M GT

 

Look at my sig! lol... i cant help it!

 

Yikes, it's been so long. If I weren't at work right now I'd fire up my computer and check the game settings.

 

I currently have a 4 year old gen 2 dell xps with an ati 9800 pro, and am planning on getting my first laptop (prob dell 1520 or asus g1s) how big should I expect the performance gain 2 be (if any)???

thnx!

 

See this thread:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=144530

 

''Coming Soon: I can't make up my mind anymore thanks to NotebookReview. Sager np2090, Asus G1s, or HP 8510p?''

I wish i ve got money for any of thoughs! I ve 2 wait till next summer!

 

The mobility radeon 9700 was a 9600 in disguise.

I miss my 9800PRO. It whopped it's competitors when it was out. Too bad oblivion and F.E.A.R. killed it (well technically, it killed something. might have been the GPU)

that's the same thread...

 

Thats what i thought.... but seeing the number 9700 just makes me feel a little bit better alright! lol

 

Good thread here. I still own in my desktop Pentium 4 - 3.0 ghz a ATI Radeon 9800 XT 256 mb card. A few years ago when I bought it the Radeon 9800 XT was the baddest card around! It has served me very well indeed. I don't know specific frame rates but games like Doom 3, Unreal Tournament 2004, Pro Evolution Soccer 6, MS Flight Sim 2004, Flat Out & Grand Prix 4 all run great @ 1024 * 768 resolution. Even @ 1280 * 1024 they play really well although I don't bother playing at this resolution - I may not have the sharpest eye in the world but I can see very little difference in quality above 1024 * 768 (below that then yes I do detect it). I don't really buy too many modern games and I am sure my card would choke on some of them but out of my entire game collection only the Sims 2 on occasions causes the computer to groan!

The only games I buy nowadays are Football manager & Pro Evolution Soccer sequels and I think my current pc will be able to cope with at least the next couple of releases as they aren't too graphics card intensive … but … my head has been turned by Crysis, Hellgate: London & Flight Sim X - So will likely get a laptop to cope with those. Just wish those 8800 cards would hurry up and appear. I love the idea of the 7950 sli set up but it's not a direct x 10 card (plus Vista hasn't got it's act together for Sli) & although they are pretty good cards compared to my current rig the 8600, 8700 cards sound pretty dissapointing!

 

Great games they are! But... PES 7 (now named PES 2007), apparently is gona be running on next gen engine (same as PS3 and XB 360 ver)...my laptop wont be able to run it anymore

 

Hellgate: London is designed to be very scalable, your computer will handle it easily
I think you could handle Flight Sim X on low depending on your RAM. But yeah good topic.

 

That's dissapointing to hear. A new laptop will be a must - I love playing PES6 so much, I can only imagine how good PES7 will be! It's a difficult trade off because when I move out I won't be able to take my trusty desktop with me to play some of the old classics. No doubt there will be compatability problems on my new vista laptop with some of them. I'd be interested to know if Grand Prix 4 (and some of the other games I mentioned) works on Vista - I had enough trouble with it originally on XP with crashes back to the desktop (thankfully Gpx patch and disabling HT made it stable). Sorry gone off topic slightly!

 

I posted this in a thread where sum1 asked wif the 9600 was better than the 8600....

 

I think its been merged.....

 

That would explain it.

 

Slightly off topic but similar-ish. I've got a mobility9700 pro in my current laptop, and I think my next laptop will probably have the 8400GS in it. How do they compare? I understand the whole three generation thing, but the 8400gs is considered an entry level card, and the 9700 was high end, so.....

 

8400M GS is better. 9700Pro was an early high end DX9 card. It's performance is roughly around go7300. 8400M GS is better than go7300.

 

The 9700/9800 cards were (are) awesome! I still have a 9800Pro in my desktop, it even plays Oblivion and F.E.A.R. reasonably well at quite high settings in 1024x768.

I wish mid-range cards had the same longevity... I don't expect an 8600GT to last me 5 years :/

 

mmm, I wonder who the 5 people are that voted for the 9800...

 

Would be fun to know, yes. The question is though, why did you drag up an old dead thread?

 

dunno lol, saw Johnny's sig and clicked...
An 8600 wont last 5years because it is incompatable with DX12. Although itll still be better than what Intel could come up with...

 

Are you sure about that? I'm guessing it will be like dx9 vs dx7. Meaning it will be backwards compatible. They just need to add dx10 codepaths.

 

Until recently I had a 9600 with 64mb in my laptop. Lasted great until recently. I played everything until Hitman: Blood Money on it. Sold that thing for $470. (the laptop not the card )

 

I am still using my mobility radeon 9700 128mb....no new notebook for me for a long time play CSS and TF2 well so i don't care

 

I have a radeon 9700 in my Mitac. It's a decently powerful card, around geforce go 7200/7300 level if you were to compare it to a modern card. the 8600M GT is much more powerful though and much better for newer games.