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    Radeon R9-M295X

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Tsubasa, Mar 15, 2014.

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    One can certainly dream...
     
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    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    If it is, then nVidia would really need to haul a$$ with Maxwell, so win-win for gamers.
     
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    The server is actually open for public.

    Some other tumbnails was hidden on it:

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    Looks maybe to be about CPUs. It says "AMD FX" on the third picture, and Mobile Kaveri have a FX APU so maybe thats what happening.
    I can`t see what the other two below that "AMD FX" says though. Fingers crossed it is M295X as well
     
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    I think it says Sponsor, to be replaced by another company name.
     
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    i dont think 20nm would help notebook users. the problem with gaming notebooks is cooling. with a smaller transistor packed in the same die size, the heat produced would be higher. as it is, it is already a struggle to cool down a 880m or a 7970m (or its variants).
     
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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    My M17x R4 has no issues cooling the GPU.. Temps rarely reach above 75C but the damm CPU is always 90 with the stock heatsink and paste^^^
     
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    Total power drops per transistor.
     
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    Its confirmed teaser about their upcoming APUs

    Not just did they leave hidden thumbnails on the website but the source code was pretty revealing.
    Looks like they plan to bring the big guns with the upcoming mobile Kaveri.
    What AMD says:
     
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    Even though June 4th is an APU event they will most likely launch R9-M295X at the same time, and I doubt MSI will miss the opportunity to launch their new GX series right after both announcements which is when NDA will be lifted. If not than sometimes else during Computex from June 2-7. I doubt it will launch before the APU though, maybe the desktop Tonga, but not the M295X.
     
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    :(

    MSI To Show Off New Hardware At COMPUTEX TAIPEI - Legit Reviews

    Rebrands rebrands rebrands and rebrands. Neither AMD or Nvidia are able to offer anything exciting. All reusing the same 2 year old freaking architectures.

    Intel not out with Broadwell until 2015 when they should have released it in easter this year or worst case this summer.

    Screw this
     
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    Looks like you'll just have to crank up the voltage on your 770M's then! ;-) A quick aside, there was a user on Tech Inferno forums with an A18 & 770M sli like yours, and he couldn't get voltage control enabled with the modified vBIOS that you used one time. You were able to change voltage right?
     
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    Yups had no problem with voltage and svl`s vbios.
    His vbios was at 1.000V.
    I did two steps above that, 1.025V and then to 1.050V. I could have gone a little higher I think but I stopped there.

    I`m bored about my 770M. Want something new :(
     
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    kothletino Notebook Evangelist

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    Btw, do you remember when I asked about the possibility of change in TDP? And how does this relate to reality, just like this:

    stock 56-84
    [​IMG]

    mod 100
    [​IMG]

    I know i know offtopic with 7970m, i just want to show you this.


    New lider in Fire strike extreme with 7970m
     
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    Nice result there buddy.
    Same clocks but 10% better graphic score. :)

    Did you increase the "Power table" or changed the TDP to 100% with Afterburner or Inspector?
     
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    I changed TDP from 84 to 100 and power limit go automatically from 56-84 to 100-100 with VBE7.
     
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    Hi, is there a guide or something for this? I'm interested in doing so too :)
     
  18. kothletino

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    You must have a copy(preferably) of your vbios, then you need to download the program called VBE7. Open vbios with this prog and:
    - on first tab(overview) you do nth,
    - on the second tab(PowerPlay) you can adjust the voltage and clock that you want,
    - on third tab(OverDrive & PowerTune) in a lower position(PowerTune) you'll have to change TDP (W) to 100.
    Save new rom, flash it and you are done.
    BUT:
    You do it at your own risk, and you accept that the device may be permanently damaged for which no one takes responsibility.
    My english is not so good, but I hope you understand the meaning of the warning.
     
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  19. littlecx

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    how much temp increase by changing 84 to 100?

    edit: wow i just flash the vbios and the temp going up crazily.core just 1050 and i hv to stop kombustor otherwise must over 100oc
     
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    Don't worry I understand.. What temps etc did u get when setting this and what voltage did u use?

    Dude the core is almost a 25% OC and your voltage must be too high.. Lower it a bit...
     
  21. kothletino

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    All info about voltage and temps during the benchmark run you have at SS in WHinfo window. Now i try to make some movie, how the oc/ov/otdp ;D 7970m run in crysis 3. Just pls w8 a moment...
     
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    no i left stock voltage untouched
     
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    Thanks a lot +rep :)

    Must be doing something wrong.. Let's wait for kothletino's video...
     
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    other than VSS magical core speed. i remember segaDE also able to run 3dmark11 at core 1115. but i dont think he altered TDP or voltage.....edit: i just found out he did ov
     
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    Ok Guys so here is the movie, 7970m run @ 1100/1600/1.1 and TDP=100.
    Personally, I am not satisfied with the result. I was hoping to get a higher fps. My laptop was with closed back cover standing on cooling pad and FN+1(full fan speed activated).
    VSS get about 1150Mhz on core BUT in different benchmark, for example my 7970m in 3dmark Performace can run with max 1090Mhz on core but with Fire Strike Extreme can handle with 1110Mhz on core.
     
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    Hello

    You seems to be pretty sure that there will be a M295X announced in the next days... I haven't seen anything official from AMD regarding this... is it sure that a new high end GPU will come this year?
     
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    Nobody is sure of anything :p

    There was a chart leaked directly from a MSI about future products where M295X was listed with GX70/GX60, but recent news about MSI and Computex said that they will be using M290X in those systems.
    So who the heck knows whats happening
     
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    That M290X could be a typo, or more likely to not uncover it before Computex
     
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    Yes always a possibility I guess. They didnt tell all they plan on revealing though, there is a new notebook coming from them at Computex which neither MSI or any news site have written about. So who knows, maybe M295x is a secret too.

    After all they can`t write about it yet since its not been announced by AMD. So that can be the reason why we only heard about M290X yet.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi/753959-msi-presenting-new-gt-series-notebooks-new-design.html
     
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    More customization? Hmmm... maybe a return to an intel/amd configuratation?
     
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    M295X Crossfire :D
    That be awesome
     
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    An awesome barbecue you mean? ;)
     
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    On MSI it will be an awesome smoking barbacue :p
     
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    How high you can go with stock voltage? Can increasing TDP benefits the same?
     
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    The 17 inch barebone has that option now
     
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    Yep, sorry about that, I was specifically directing that comment towards their branded GX series.
     
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    As we said earlier there are two versions of the 7970m vbios:
    1. stock 1.0v - @ which my core run 950Mhz stable
    2. stock 1.050v - @ which my core run 1000Mhz stable

    Answer is NO, look at my daily vbios(1000/1500/1.050v) results: stockTDP and TDP=100 power increase is barely noticeable.
    I deeply hope that the new Radeon will work in the Clevo P170em and bring mooore power.
     
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    upping 1.05 to 1.1 let you run from 1000 to 1100 is incredible. and your temp is unbelievably low.
    Did you run cloud gate and ice storm as well? These two are more sensitive to core stability than fire stike and 11
    this is the highest stock voltage stock tdp 3dmark11 i can manage with 3940xm.
    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8261564
    and first strike
    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2060488
     
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    My 7970M run @0.975V stock. Maximum stable OC on that voltage was 935/1400MHz. Now I have it overvolted it to 1.025V and it's stable at 1000/1500MHz. I haven't tried more... FurMark temperature is 88C and I don't want to go beyond that.
    I wonder how did you manage to keep your temperature so low? I have the P1x0SM heatsink in my P170EM and my temps are way higher than yours...
     
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    I'll tell you on my example, im able to pass benchmarks with high core/memory speed with lower level of voltage but it works differently when playing games with the same settings, i mean after a long session with BF4 or Crysis3, screen just get frozen and game stop working. I checked many combinations of core/mem freq @ at several voltage levels and for long sesions in my case the best and 100% stable was 1000/1500/1.050v, for example this "set" allow me to play BF4 on max graphic settings with the highest temp of 86 degrees.
    And i pass the Cloud Gate with voltage @ 1.100v but core was @ 1090Mhz not 1100Mhz, and mem @ 1600 in both. Later i'll post the results.
     
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    Same here I could pass benchmarks with higher clock but have to lower once I found it freezes in Crysis 3
    something interesting from vbe7 the voltage it reads is 1.075 but from hwmonitor and others monitoring apps they all read 1.05
     
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    How come?
    Tonga (R9 M295X) is said to be a new architecture and will rival Maxwell in efficiency. Meaning that M295X might be better than 880M and produce less heat.
     
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    Pretty sure something big is happening at Computex from AMD

    They have their own computex page with "Press Room" and such. They will also have a presentation where they:
    [​IMG]




    Then we have AMD graphics department which tweeted this not long ago. So it looks like they are involved as well :)
    [​IMG]
     
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    Yes, but you are talking about CF, not single card XD.
     
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    Talking about mobile not desktop. 6990M wasn't CrossFire either.
     
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    He specifically talked about CF

    "M295X Crossfire
    That be awesome"
     
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    Nope, don't see any mention of CrossFire here:

    That's what you quoted.
     
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    I am not saying that he said m295x would be a CF, i am saying that i replied because he talked about a posible laptop with a CF of m295x
     
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    Pretty sure he was talking about single M295X in the quote you posted 'cause M290X CrossFire can already beat single 880M.
     
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    Crossfire requires a second heatsink and fan, so heat is identical to a single card while weight and power consumption go up.
     
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