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    Rage Discussion Thread

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by johnnyman27, Sep 29, 2011.

  1. johnnyman27

    johnnyman27 Notebook Lover

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    The game is coming out in a few days for PC,PS3,XBOX 360!!!!!is anyone excited about it???cant wait!!! :D
    Release Date:
    10/4/11 at USA
    10/7/11 in EUROPE

    System Requirements

    Minimum:

    OS: Win XP SP3, Vista, Win 7
    Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo or Equivalent AMD
    Memory: 2GB
    Hard Disk Space: 25GB
    Video Card: GeForce 8800, Radeon HD 4200

    Recommended:

    OS: Win XP SP3, Vista, Win 7
    Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad or Equivalent AMD
    Memory: 4GB
    Hard Disk Space: 25GB
    Video Card: GeForce 9800 GTX, ATI Radeon HD 5550
     
  2. alexUW

    alexUW Notebook Virtuoso

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    IMO, RAGE is just another generic shoot em up FPS.
    I think the real advantage of RAGE is the new engine, that will be available for other game devs to implement into future games.
     
  3. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    RAGE is here to show us some sweet OpenGL graphics (Dx9 for older comps) and also give us a hint on what Doom 4 might look like.
    I got it on preorder on Steam so i cant wait to test it out. :D
     
  4. johnnyman27

    johnnyman27 Notebook Lover

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    someone else???
     
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    What sucks is my laptop uses only the IGP for OpenGL and DirectX 9 performance is significantly worse than DirectX 10 or 11. Although I am greatly anticipating Doom 4, I may hold off on Rage until I get some feedback and it drops in price.
     
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    Surprised there's not more interest on here about this game... Looks pretty cool. It's currently pre-loading on Steam. Thinking about picking it up.

    On a side note, it seems I remember reading something about this game that made me not want it at some point, but upon further research it looks pretty good... there's not any weird DRM or anything is there? Appears to have a decent singleplayer story, and that's always my main draw to a game.
     
  7. hockeymass

    hockeymass that one guy

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    Meh, another postapocalyptic shooter. The dune buggy aspect doesn't intrigue me.
     
  8. outsida

    outsida Notebook Enthusiast

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    One of my most anticipated games of the year.
     
  9. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    Damn Steam preloaded 21GB of RAGE. xD
    Now i only gotta wait until Friday for it to unlock.
     
  10. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    Looks pretty generic. There are so many overlapping titles being released that it's easy to totally ignore major AAA releases. Single player shooter would need something pretty epic to draw me in. Competition among people tends to be more varied and interesting.
     
  11. rschauby

    rschauby Superfluously Redundant

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    I'm interested in this game, but with BF3 launching I think I can afford to wait a few months and hope for some possible sales.
     
  12. naticus

    naticus Notebook Deity

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    It looks so similar to Borderlands, but without the loot.

    I'll wait for Borderlands 2.
     
  13. TearTaker

    TearTaker Notebook Evangelist

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    Here is a nice demo of the game. Not sure if I want it or not yet. Will wait for reviews/experiences. But this demo definitely made it look more fun than I previously thought it to be.
    Gasmespot Rage Demo.
     
  14. shinakuma9

    shinakuma9 Notebook Deity

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    wait what? its 20 gigs? why is it that big for just a generic fps..
     
  15. runamonk

    runamonk Notebook Consultant

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    Nope id have already stated they are no longer going to be licensing their engine tech out to other companies.
     
  16. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    Maybe because its not your average generic FPS?
    Its even this big or even bigger on the Xbox 360 and PS3 version or so i heard.
     
  17. johnnyman27

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    i think its 20GB cuz of megatextures!!!!its a new technique that allows you to paint textures on a scene thats already rendered. Typically in games, you have to paint a texture than map it to some geometry. Megatextures allows you to do this much easier by essentially letting you paint the texture, or fix it while its already mapped onto the polygon.

    MegaTexture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
  18. hockeymass

    hockeymass that one guy

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    I wouldn't call megatexturing new. Virtual texturing is what you're talking about. Megatexturing is just using a BIG scalable texture instead of repeating smaller tiles.
     
  19. Zymphad

    Zymphad Zymphad

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    Just too bad Rage too so long to develop. People saying this game looks generic, another post apocalypic etc. Rage development started before Borderlands and other games I believe. ID Software is like Blizzard hopefully. So when the game is released, hopefully Rage will be perfection. It's been in development long enough, over half a decade it seems.
     
  20. Zymphad

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    Have they said why the game is 20GB?
     
  21. Zymphad

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    Well it will be available to any game published by Bethesda or Zenimax, which is a lot.
     
  22. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    iD and blizzard really aren't very similar traditionally. iD has traditionally invested their effort into graphics engines, and Carmack, cofounder and lead programmer, is basically a 3d graphics expert and programmer. Their goal is to make amazing 3d graphics engines. Unfortunately, that means that when production takes twice as long as expected, they end up putting out a product that's already behind.

    Blizzard basically puts their efforts into gameplay, balance, story, and a very small number of intellectual properties, with relatively simple graphics. Their games don't sell because of the graphics, so if they take an extra 2 years to get out their game, it won't make much of a difference.

    Basically, 3d graphics are moving forward at an extremely fast pace, iD or no iD. Gameplay innovation is much slower. Blizzard can afford to take their time more than iD.

    Rage looks outdated, maybe average. Gameplay wise, you're looking at a single player FPS without anything else interesting to hold it up. This type of game has been done to death.
     
  23. Zymphad

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    All righty masternegative.

    I still look forward to Rage, love ID games.
     
  24. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    it's just my opinion. I'm sure it'll be fun. A lot of this is thinking back to doom 3 and quake 4. They looked good when they were released, and were pretty much generic shooters. The graphics were good enough at the time that it hardly mattered.
     
  25. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    I hope its not boring as it is big. I loved Borderlands, but i lost interest in it pretty quickly because is too much co-op oriented and noone of my friends had it, so i left it behind.

    If they managed to put in Rage the same single player feel of Fallout 3/NV or Oblivion, its definitely a must buy for me.
     
  26. maksin01

    maksin01 Notebook Deity

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    I read this from another forum... Should be interesting to see what happens. :)

    "Ya Carmack confirmed it.

    During the Keynote, Carmack also stressed a number of times that the PC version would possibly get a "super quality texture pack" to fix low-resolution(blurry) textures that Rage suffers at the shipping dataset which is identical to console counterparts. He admitted that artists were sad because a combination of multiple professional compression solutions necessary to fit the ~150 GB internal build to a shippable product of 25 GB, on three dual-layer DVDs or one single-layer BD."
     
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  27. redrazor11

    redrazor11 Formerly waterwizard11

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    Is this going to have full-on co-op like borderlands did? I heard that it's only a few levels that will be co-opable. Looking for something to fill the gap between borderlands and borderlands 2 :p
     
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    I've been looking forward for this game. But to be honest, I actually forgot about it for a while until I looked at the release date. This game isn't really getting a lot of PR marketing.
     
  29. johnnyman27

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    i read that game is so bad port!!!texture flickering everywhere and low performance....so sad..
     
  30. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    Nvidia users arent having problems, beside an occasional texture popup issue. The real problem here seems Ati users with AMD BF3 drivers.
    As ID already tweeted:

    Rage, ATI, and the Battlefield 3 Beta Don't Mix

    Remember that ATI is still having a poor, very poor OpenGL engine compared to Nvidia. Same thing happened with brink.

    I hope they fix it soon.
     
  31. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    Guess im okay, since i have a "AMD" Radeon HD & Catalyst 11.9 WHQL.

    Damn it, y u no friday yet?
     
  32. junglebungle

    junglebungle Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah i've just read there are problems, and saw some screenshots, terrible quality textures on some items:

    http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/4033/t3stn.jpg

    Also:

    Why... :( - YouTube

    Hopefully my trusty Nvidia card will be ok ;)
     
  33. randomlol

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    how is this game? was thinking of picking it up.
     
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    Will let you know after installation.............3 hrs and still waiting on Steam update !
     
  35. junglebungle

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    Just started playing, running perfect at 1080p 60fps on my rig, some textures aren't great, but overall it looks good, and hopefully there be a patch released for better textures.

    Off to play :)

    [​IMG]

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    Looks pretty lousy on my system. Even though it's Nvidia, I'm getting Guiness world record texture pop in. Completely unoptimized, imho. I've even cranked down the rezz, and the framerate is still uneven as hell, and the pop in still THE worst I've ever seen in a game!

    The Witcher 2 looks and runs great, and even Crysis/Crysis 2.

    Rage?? very 'meh' so far.

    After completing the first mission, I've already turned it off. Wish Dark Souls would've arrived today instead of this... Guess we'll see how much support Id/Nvidia give this game in better optimizing it for the PC crowd. Sad day when a brand new Id game looks better on my stinking Xbox.
     
  38. xxERIKxx

    xxERIKxx Notebook Deity

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    Yeah it works for laptops also.

    From the Asus section on NBR:

     
  39. Painkilller

    Painkilller Notebook Consultant

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    Ok, went to the Bethesda official Rage forums, and found the current fix for Nvidia based systems.

    This is what I did:

    This didn't do all that much until I disabled SLI. I'm thinking that the lack of any official Sli support was my biggest issue, because now I have the game cranked up to max rez, and it's buttery smooth with almost zero texture pop.

    Just thought I'd pass the info along.
     
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    i need to unistall my old 11.9 drivers or i can install them without unistall the previous one??thx!!
     
  41. johnnyman27

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    here are some screenshots!!!i run the game full hd with 4x AA and the latest ati drivers 11.9 rage performance without textures issues,no pop-in at 60fps!!!great game!!!

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    If I manage to get a copy of the game I'll do a little first impressions review and test the game for multi monitor support.
     
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    hockeymass that one guy

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    It looks great. I don't know, though, the whole thing just seems like a huge tech demo.
     
  45. Zymphad

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    I wouldn't bother doing that type of testing. I doubt it has eyefinity support. It's OpenGL from ID Software, Carmack couldn't care less about AMD other than he wanted the game to run on the 360. Wouldn't surprise me if he didn't even have an AMD machine in his office, the whole team using Nvidia :D AMD forced to send down someone with their own computer to try and make it work :D
     
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    I just saw a video of it. Are they serious with that texture popping? I thought it was like, you're walking and distant textures are popping in, not "everything in the room is untextured until you look at it for a quarter second". Ridiculous.
     
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    AMD supports OpenGL.
     
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    They do, but very unoptimized. Although I see that more of a problem for AMD than Carmack.
     
  49. Darkness62

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    The texture pop in is caused by Rage using zero VRAM, there is a temp fix for it going around, you make a .cfg file and place it in the base folder of Rage with the changes making the game utilize VRAM, works well, at least it did for me. Makes Rage playable, that texture pop in was just brutal, never saw anything like that, funny how John Carmack regrets the console first choice now.

    John Carmack Regrets Making Consoles Lead Platform For RAGE - YouTube
     
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    hockeymass that one guy

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    I think PC to console ports work a lot better than console to PC ports.
     
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