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    Rainbow Six Vegas on a8js?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by sojourner21, Dec 19, 2006.

  1. sojourner21

    sojourner21 Notebook Consultant

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    Hey guys, I'm wondering if anyone with an Asus a8js has tried out R6 Vegas. I'm thinking of getting it, but don't know if it'll run super smooth on it. I know the a8js has really good specs but I also heard R6 Vegas is a monster to run. Thanks!

    p.s. I upgraded to 2 ghz ram in case that helps.
     
  2. HavoK

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    Unfortunatley it is a monster to run. Ubi have followed up Double Agent with yet another game that needs SM3 to run leaving X700 Mobility users unable to play either game, as well as rendering extremely powerful desktop cards like the X800XT and PE totally useless. GJ Ubi.

    It will work on your 7700, and probably smooth without any problems - it'll be more determined by what sort of settings you want to play with.
     
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    I don't need the highest settings, maybe just medium. Will it run smoothly then?
     
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    Hey, I actually just bought this game yesterday, and it is a BEAST. I'm running a Core duo 1.83, 2gb ram, and a 7900GS at 450/1100, and I can only pull about 25-30 with everything but blur effects on high at 1024x768. If you set everything down to medium/low, it should be fine. Awesome game, btw
     
  6. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

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    well

    your system is probably using wuxga resolution. big difference.

    I got 45 fps on high settings at 1440 x 900 with my a8js

    only thing different about mine is the 2 gb ram
     
  7. sojourner21

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    Thanks Stamar, that's good news. But your a8js is overclocked, how do you think it'll run on a stock system w/ 2 gigs ram?

    On a similar game, does anyone play Ghost Recon: Advanced War Fighter? I tried the demo and the reticle seems sluggish, laggy, and not very good. I tried different sensitivities but to no avail. And what is 3d mouse?
     
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    Yet another reason why companies need to try harder when porting their console games to PC.
     
  9. HavoK

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    I've actually been hearing alot of desktop owners with both E6300s and E6400s that the game is almost unplayable even at low settings - that seriously worried me, after just buying a new E6400! But here people with E6300 equivilent speeds seem to be fine at high settings....thats a relief.
     
  10. Hellz

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    Heh, glad to hear that others are having trouble running RS:V. I thought my configuration (see sig) could hold Vegas at medium to high settings at 1440x900, turns out it can but at around 20-22 fps, 18ish in heavy firefights. Just out of interest stamar, how did you manage to get such high fps in it, is it because you've overclocked your GFX card? I would be tempted to try and push my 7900GS a little more than stock, but I don't know if it will provide enough of a change to get supposedly 'next-gen' games such as RS:Vegas and Double Agent running significantly better. Mind you it is a cracking game, so for me it's worth the bad fps.
     
  11. XIII_GT

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    dont worry pppl...this game is a realyl crapppy port ..just like Splinter cell double agent.. i mean wtf?? sm3 for SC :DA??

    thats crazy
     
  12. stamar

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    my a8js is not over clocked and it has 2 gb ram
     
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    Have you ever tried it with lower resolution? And what about lower settings? Because if your computer can't run it smooth, then theres no hope for mine. I don't want to spend $50 to get 22 fps and get killed because of it. This is BS, R6 started out as a tactical shooter for the PC only. The least they could do for us was to port R6 Vegas decently. It's like... making it DX10 exclusive so nobody can play it well. But without the benefits of DX 10. Sheesh.
     
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    prehaps wait until they patch it to buy it?
     
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    Yeah, i tried it previously at 1024x768 i think it was, and it only ran a little bit better but looked awful because of the display being stretched out. My settings at the moment are all on medium, with HDR on. I tried turning it off but it didn't really help at all, so I'm guessing it's the textures that are killing performance, alongside SM3. I'm honestly thinking that the 7900GS, even overclocked, will not run Vegas too well at any settings apart from stupidly low. I had superb glitches when I selected the highest resolution in the game (i think 1280x920 or something), everything around me became transparent! So if anyone else is having that problem, lower your resolution!

    Oh and if I were you I would still buy RS:Vegas, but take it as a semi-tactical shooter with mainly hollywood effects, i mean it's far from a tactical shooter like you were hoping. I also reckon that if you lowered the settings enough it would be fine to play, it would just look a little/quite ugly, thats all. It's just a shame that I've already found the limit with my 7900GS, was hoping for it to deal with these games coming out at the moment and like I said before I might try my luck at overclocking it one day, to hopefully see better performance in these games.

    And one other note; to all you crying/sulking about how you need to have SM3 in order to play it, this is called progression! Graphics aren't going to get better if they don't use the better technologies on offer. It's sorta like saying a few years ago, "why do I have to have DirectX9 enabled graphics cards! This is evil as I only have DX8!" etc etc. I know it's annoying and I do understand all you who are annoyed, but you obviously don't care about standing in the way of games and technology improving!
     
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    ok no i dont think im doing anything out of the ordinary

    I dont turn on aa though

    so you have a 7900 gs and same resolution as me?

    Well you should be getting 60 fps at the same settings i am or something like that depending on the game

    I never use aa or anisotropy

    I use high textures low shadows.
    I turn of hdl lighting sometimes but actually this doenst make a lot of difference because the games dont use this other than a few spots.

    I also use laptopvideo2go drivers and then i use the inf file set to performance.

    you and i have the same cpu, same ram sam speed....same screen resolution...

    we actually have a very similar gpu but you have the 256 bit interface

    Ive experimented and found the best performance for my gpu I cant see why yours is any different. Yours is going to be even better with a higher resolution

    make sure you turn off a lot of background programs. I think you need to solve this problem or you will think your computer is much less powerful than it is. Your computer can run rb6 vegas backwards.
     
  17. stamar

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    I would definitely bet you have to update your video drivers.

    Are those the only two games you are running slow?
     
  18. Hellz

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    Yeah basically Vegas and Double Agent are the ones running slow. I haven't found a way of configuring advanced video options in RS:Vegas, but I the only difference I have found between me and you running it is that you disable anisotropic filtering and HDR whereas I keep mine on, and I have my shadows on medium. I'll quickly play around with those and see if it makes a difference, and I'll report my findings in a few minutes. Oh, my drivers are up to date, but from NVidia, I haven't delved too deep into finding out how to get custom drivers from laptopvideo2go, but I think I will try, and I usually have around 68-70 programs running in the background. I'll reboot and try again with changed settings such as shadows etc. Would using laptopvideo2go drivers really help a lot?

    UPDATE: Right, turns out that setting shadows to very low gives me around a 5-6 fps boost in general, a little more in outdoor areas. Toggling HDR on and off doesn't affect fps a lot, like you said stamar it is sparingly used, and motion blur doesn't impact performance, it's mainly CPU-based.
    However, I think I know where our differences lie: I am using a widescreen resolution hack, giving me a full native resolution of 1440x900, from widescreengamingforum.com, instead of using the resolution of 1024x768 and stretching it to fit the display. I'm a sucker for native resolutions, which is why my performance is so low I guess! What exact settings are you running Vegas at stamar?
    Oh, final point, I haven't actually got to Vegas yet, am still on the Mexico missions. I hope that indoors I will be able to turn the shadows at least to low, because for me it significantly changes how the games looks and 'feels' if you know what I mean.
     
  19. XIII_GT

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    So you saying that you can spend 300$ on a new card everytiems a new technology coems out????not everyone is rich you know..and Vegas is a straight port thats why ppl are having problems w/ it..
     
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    Hellz, is the game still playable even with the fps drop? Since in shooters fps is especially important.
     
  21. Hellz

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    I reckon so yeah, but that's just me. I been enjoying it loads mainly because you can hide behind cover a lot of the time and target people when in cover, so the slow fps doesn't really affect it there, but it does get noticeably slow on occasions. Twice it has dropped to 9 fps in huge rooms with lots of lighting, shading and loads of action going on, but that was the worst of it. However, I would think that it isn't playable to true first person shooter fans, because a lot of the time the fps are slightly under-par, usually around and below 25fps, a few times lower, rarely higher. I still love RS:Vegas though, superb action and stunning graphics!

    Well surprisingly that's what happens when technology improves: it costs more! I mean alright Vegas and Double Agent were stunningly horrendous ports, but why aren't you having a go at DirectX 10 then, because that's in exactly the same situation? If you want to play with better graphics and better effects in a more advanced game, then you'll need the GeForce 8800 series to play them, surely that's exactly the same as what you've been saying with RS:Vegas? And I am far from rich, I've been saving ages for my 9400 and will be keeping it for years, even when newer games want DX10 as standard.