Razer Blade -- Discuss

Every product behind a well known brand is way over priced.
Advertised or not.

 

one of the community rules! the higher price, the flashier it is, the cooler you are, the more chances for a date! it's simple as that! exactly the hype of alienware and macs/iphones even though the actual value worth less than they are! all they want is girls talking about him like "OMGBBQ HE OWNS A $2800 lapz"

I've been to these situations myself with my friends 13" MBP before receiving my current laptop!

 

Are people, girls, that shallow? Really?

 

It`s plain biology. Girls may think they are so much more sophisticated and evolved than 1000 years ago, but the truth is that big rocks have been replaced with shiny laptops

Although it may backfire, especially if you are more than average interested in the technology inside a notebook. Apple owners should not fear though, since they prove that they do not belong in that group by even *thinking* about buying an apple notebook

 

LMAO, I would love to hear the old lady say that to me.

 

Yeah, funny how that flips when she's actually dating/married to you, lol. "You spent HOW MUCH on a STUPID LAPTOP!?"

 

^^^ Much more accurate.

 

HT is correct. And, unless the girl is a nerd as well (which is always nice), or they are after someone for money. (Not trying to be offensive, coming from personal experience)

 

The girls i been talking too usually think that the thinner the notebook, the better. >_>
But in the case of this Razer it might actually be true when comparing to Intel i3 builds with IGPs that usually sells the best here.
That or AMD Brazos builds using 15" to 17" formfactors. *shudders*

 

Yeah Brazos in 15" or 17" lulz. I think Clevo was actually looking at something like that. I mean, really? It's a netbook CPU. Leave it in 13" and under please.

 

Just saw this in the Blade FAQ:

So does that mean not even opening it to clean out the fans or what? I suppose you could open it and put it back together, but is there something that would let Razer know that you had indeed opened it--like a water-damage indicator on a cell phone? Not even Apple is that strict.

 

That seems to be correct, Can't open it up at all from what I understand from that sentence. I am also curious on how Razer would know you opened it up. There has to be some kind of a sticker or something. Also, I can't believe that the Blade doesn't come with an internal/external Optical Drive! Even a MBP 17 has an Optical Drive.

The more I read that FAQ, the more I see how crappy this system/warranty really is.

 

companies usually know from the screws! thats why they're usually painted! if they find any scratched screw they can use it as an excuse! not all of them are that strict though, but I voided the warranty of an old device because of that!

 

Either that or torque paint/wax strip. I'd imagine for practical and production reasons, they'd rather put warranty stickers over the HDD and other components instead of on the outside of the case where the cover screws set. You'd have to be pretty shoddy with a screwdriver for it to be visibly noticeable that you opened it up. Either that or they bring in Gil Grissom to CSI your laptop screws and see if they've been touched by another screw driver.

Does anybody know what game this is (from the Razer video):

 

I didn't even have to click on the picture. lol

It's League of Legends! One of my fave games ever! It is a MOBA(Multi-player Online Battle Arena) style game. it has three modes, 3v3 on Twisted Treeline, 5v5 on Summoners Rift, or 5v5 Dominion(CTF style) on the Crystal Scar(that is what is being shown in that pic.) Fun fun fun game, Has like 96 champs all with crazy fun abilities.

It is a Free 2 Play game that utilizes micro transactions, and there are currently about 5 million people playing it. So never have to wait to find games.

 

How did you not know it was league of legends, that's a wonder to me

Sounds like Razer doesn't want to deal with the malfunctions ><

 

Oh god what.

 

Alot of manufacturers do that, put a warranty void sticker on like a RAM door or something.

 

A 2700$ laptop and we aren't even allowed to clean out the system or upgrade some RAM?

Razer better change their ways FAST or they're gonna lose alot of customers in my opinion.

 

My eyes + brain + a ridiculous amount of playing LoL. I could just tell from the little thumbnail it was Dominion on LoL.

 

At least in the U.S., you should be protected by law if you upgrade your own hardware. Car manufacturers tried the same thing in the '70s, and it didn't go over very well. There was a law passed in 1975 (Magnusson-Moss Act) that states, among other things, that you cannot be forced to use manufacturer-branded or "approved" parts, and that warranty coverage can only be denied if it can be shown that the aftermarket part or home repair was the cause of the failure.

Of course, those stickers are still put there to scare consumers, and if Razer wanted to fight you on it, it would cost more than $2800 in legal bills to get your laptop fixed.

 

As you noted, if razer has made their policy clear, then they will follow it. If you choose to purchase from razer anyway with the expectation that you can get them to change their policy on legal grounds, you'll need to be prepared to sue them.

It's a sort of roundabout method of acquiring a laptop warranty, if you ask me. The time and monetary costs of suing will certainly outweigh the value of the warranty. Moreover, those costs will vastly outweigh the marginal cost of selecting a different laptop to purchase in the first place.

 

I've never seen this. On the majority of laptops I've seen and worked with, at least in the last several years, the RAM door and hard drive are accessible and designed to be user-replaceable parts. Now the components themselves will have stickers on them; that's common.

What makes Razer's policy even more inane is their target marketing. This is supposed to be a gaming laptop, designed for enthusiasts. Enthusiasts, more often than not, know what they're doing when it comes to replacing and upgrading components. Sager/Clevo understands this, MSI understands this, Alienware understands this. Why is it lost on Razer?

 

The Hannspree netbooks put stickers on the hard drive and RAM compartments. My Eee 1215b had a sticker on a hard drive bracket screw. I've heard of many others that do it as well still these days. It's stupid and unfortunate.

Don't Macbook's void your warranty if you replace your hard drive too?

 

On the pre-unibody Pro models (2007 and earlier), yes, as you had to disassemble them pretty thoroughly to access the hard drive. Its modern-day equivalent would be the Dell Vostro 3450, though it wasn't quite that bad.

On a current MBP, the RAM and hard drive are both easily accessible. The only way you're not covered, according to Apple, is if you damage another component as a result of the work you did yourself. For example, if you snapped the SATA cable, that would not be covered. Simply replacing the drive does not void the warranty.

 

No thanks got two x8100 for less than that.

 

Now that you have had it a couple of weeks, what is your opinion of it?

Is the touchpad on the side a good substitute for a mouse for FPS games?

 

You better ask here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/other-manufacturers/642913-razer-blade-owners-lounge.html

He avoids this thread because we're mean here.

 

Cool, Thanks!

 

Here is a loooooooong review of the laptop/gaming station/console whatever the thing is called

Razer Blade review -- Engadget

 

The world's first gaming notebook.

Thanks for the link.

 

From the Engadget review:

" Bottom line

Razer's first gaming laptop is impressive, though marred by minor, yet head-scratching flaws. Barring those (and its sky-high price), Razer has a winner on its hands."

Minor? Heh heh... so lets see it's the "worlds first gaming laptop" yet it games only ok and costs 3x what a similarly speced competition machine does. Yet it's a winner? pulease

 

Go Easy on Engadget. The only experience they have is reviewing Apple Products so $2800 is a bargain and playing games newer than 2004 makes it a BEAST!

 

Thanks rschauby it all makes a lot more sense now.

 

Trust engadget with a lot of salt. That site's been in bed with apple a lot longer than most of us have been alive. In other words, everything they review is always compared to apple, so their idea of cost and performance are greatly marred.

 

I'm guessing this is just to test out the waters, imagine if they sold it at 1800$ and the demand sky rockets while at the same time they have very little man power allocated to supporting this product with no infrastructure to fully support it?

gonna be a nightmare lol.

 

That's one thing I will be very curious about: How is support going to be when something eventually breaks down?

Based on the stories I've read about Razer support, they have a hard enough time dealing with the peripheral end of their business, so what you say is quite plausible.


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Why do you think Razer sent it to them before anyone else..

I'd love to see an honest site review this machine.. perhaps anandtech..

 

Thank you for posting this, I was quite curious to find out how they configured the GT 555M in the Razer Blade.

To clear things up for people that are confused - this version of the GT 555M (144 shaders 685 MHz, 128 Bit GDDR5) is, indeed, the fastest on the market. The one in the M14X has a wider memory bus but it's only DDR3. In theory the GDDR5 option should be faster (despite the narrower bus), all in all, you can bet it won't be slower. The real difference however is in the frequency (590 vs 685 MHz) - that is quite significant.

All the conspiracy theories regarding different vendors having different configurations of the GPU, while amusing, are in reality quite silly. The truth is simple - it's seems that nVidia had a hard time "taming" GDDR5 throughout Fermi. When designing their mid-range, entry performance (whatever you want to call it) mobile GPU they probably ran into a nasty thermal design dead end so instead of forcing their customers' hand, they decided to offer a configurable GPU. The reason you can't have a 144 shader 750 MHz, 192 Bit GDDR5 900 MHz, GT 555M is because, quite simply, it would be too hot and power-hungry and won't fit the intended envelope.

I believe the GT 555M has been needlessly over-discussed. Yeah, it's a disappointing GPU on top of the confusing configurations but after all - what's your deal? Give it a rest, that's what nVidia decided to do and the rest is history. Not point in arguing over it, especially in the wake of Kepler and GCN - new parts are coming. It's cool.

As for the Razer Blade, you poor child. Razer tried to play their cards as best they could but, unfortunately, were unable to appease the internet troll of hate. Poor guys try to introduce some kind of cool innovation (which people constantly demand) and they get destroyed. I think they don't deserve it, I think many people miss the point. I mean, don't get me wrong - I would never buy the notebook as-is now, not the way it's configured, not for that price tag. BUT that's besides the point. Try to understand, with IVB and Kepler/GCN knocking on the door, it might seem like Razer are trying to sell a painfully outdated configuration, and for you the consumer, on some level, that is true BUT you don't know for how long that notebook has been in development and then production. Eventually, they have to release the product and there's no such thing as the perfect time. As for the price, yes, it's insanely high but again, think about it - for what they're trying to achieve Razer are an awfully small company, there's no way they can offer the end user the benefits of mass productions and so on, at least not initially. In conclusion, I'd like to suggest that you look at the Razer Blade as an infant, a work in progress if you will. Give it time to grow and it could become something wonderful. In the immediate future it's reasonable to expect a 35W quad-core IVB part and a Kepler TDP equivalent that performs at least on the level of a desktop 550 Ti, that's not super great but it's a hell of a lot better. Mass demand would drive prices down, developments in technology would bring more muscle to the form-factor. And one day, you just might fall in love with that notebook. There's certainly nothing wrong with innovation - on the contrary.

Thank you for reading and I hope I was at least a little bit helpful.

 

Innovation is great. Integrating a new gizmo into a severely overpriced product is not. It's like an automotive company coming out with a really slick audio system but only selling it built in to a $50,000 sedan instead of making it modular for every price class of vehicle. The Razer UI would be a nice USB add-on, but nothing more, for as much as maybe $200. It's even poorly placed. Even existing users haven't been too pleased with it, as you can't really make use of it other than for Windows shortcuts because games just don't play well with a touchpad.

The Razer Blade is nothing special, really it is not. It's an albatross that tried to be an eagle.

Thin and light - check
quality backlit keyboard - check
new tech gizmo - check
choice of components - fail
advertising and marketing (first true portable gaming laptop? ha!) - fail
cost - fail

 

Couldn't agree with you more.

 

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