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    Reached Rivatuner OC Limit on 8400Gs, how can i pump it more?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by jkleet, Nov 9, 2008.

  1. jkleet

    jkleet Notebook Guru

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    Hi there:

    I have an XPS1330 with a 128m 8400GS DDR3.

    Stock frequencies are 400 for core and 600 for memory.

    Currently i'm running @ 600 core, 900 memory, everything OK and stable.

    I used rivatuner to get this OC. However, rivatuner won't let me increase the frequencies anymore (the bar has reached its limit)

    How can i solve this and keep on overclocking this baby?

    thx
     
  2. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    You can tweak the Power settings in RivaTuner to extend the clock range.

    I do not recommend you go past the preset range especially when its m1330
     
  3. Bartlett

    Bartlett The Prophet

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    Try Nvidia system tools 6.03.
     
  4. rot112

    rot112 El Rompe ToTo

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    LOL have you not read my threads...I FRIED MY m1330 motherboard doing what youre doing. Sell the crap m1330 and buy a super powerful 6860 for half the price and you wont have to risk frying that soup pan.

    Sorry i hate that laptop...bad experiences with it sorry.

    I used to do what you are doing. I would get greedy and try to play crysis at native res. I got too greedy and fried my GPu and motherboard with it. Please dont do this i HIGHLY RECCOMEND YOU LEAVE THE CLOCKS AT STOCK.
     
  5. I♥RAM

    I♥RAM Notebook Deity

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    @rot: are there usually warnings before your card gets fried? or is it like BAM pink screen of death?
     
  6. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    You are ill if you take the clocks any higher.
     
  7. rot112

    rot112 El Rompe ToTo

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    iHEART RAM. tO ME IT JUST HAPPENED. i WAS PLAYING CRYSI ON CRAP SETTINGS AND THEN THE SCREEN WENT PINK. AND IT HAD LOADS of fragments. Htne after that it would slowly start dying out. I would be able to use the computer but then a day came when it would boot up the pink screen of death. PLEASE do not max overclock on the m1330. im speaking from loads of experience here.
     
  8. I♥RAM

    I♥RAM Notebook Deity

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    Is 743/934/1699 for a 9600M overdoing it?

    Stock is 500/800/1250. Adds +1800 in 3DMark06.
     
  9. matmat07

    matmat07 Notebook Evangelist

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    What makes yo think it is stable? ANd did you look at your temps?
     
  10. rot112

    rot112 El Rompe ToTo

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    If the laptop has a good cooling system like the FX laptops then overclocking at iheartram clocks should not be an issue. Make sure that when you overclock you stay under the 80C mark. IheartRam the 9600m is a pretty good GPU why do you need to overclock. Laptop OCing should only be done on 17 inch models.

    Please dont get greedy Guys with the Ocing. OCing improves performance but if you cant keep it constantly cool the FPS is going to plunge mid game.

    Once you start noticing a diffrence in game dont let that make you go higher. Stay at the most stabel OC you can.

    Good Luck OCing guys.
     
  11. I♥RAM

    I♥RAM Notebook Deity

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    I plan to stay stable, I get around 85C on the games I play. Definitely don't want to burn it out. And I like to OC because I get 15FPS higher than my stock clocks at max settings, it's really enjoyable.

    I actually OCed a little and tried Crysis WH, I remember after 30 mins getting huge blocks of blue pixels and nothingness. That game is dangerous.
     
  12. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    Download ATI Tool and scan for artifacts for at least an hour.
     
  13. Jyon

    Jyon Notebook Consultant

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    85 degrees is too hot, if you want your laptop to actually survive for a decent period of time. 80 should be the roof if you care even slightly about component longevity. Just because the card *can* survive higher heats, dosn't mean you should run it at higher clocks.
     
  14. jkleet

    jkleet Notebook Guru

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    haha yes guys, you are right, i hadn't really gamed looking for artifacts

    I found out i was pushing wayy too much the memory so i put it to 800mhz.
    Core @650

    Still i've gotten a pretty good solid OC

    From default 400/600 to 625/800. Temps are very good (no heat issues). THe only thing that kepto me for overclocking it more is the artifact threat.
     
  15. hypdotspec

    hypdotspec Notebook Evangelist

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    For the XPS 1330, 85 should be a fine temperature.

    I highly suggest doing the COPPER MOD (search for it) to reduce max temps.

    I have a Vostro 1510 which uses practically the SAME cooling unit, and I max out at 64c on games...
     
  16. rot112

    rot112 El Rompe ToTo

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    85C is pretty high but i would get those temps on mine.

    I already stated buring out my motherboard.

    Do not OC on the m1330 at all.

    But to each his own. Im done with that laptop
     
  17. 660hpv12

    660hpv12 Notebook Deity

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    I'd recommand against it as well, I guess those core temps are like 100 degrees C. m1330 is a hot running machine, and the 8400m gs in it is defective. fails prematurally due to over heating (weak bonding material in the card that cant take heat)
     
  18. rot112

    rot112 El Rompe ToTo

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    Yes please dont overclock at all. And i highly reccomend selling the laptop to get a 6860 lol. THAT WHAT i did then you wont have to OC.
     
  19. I♥RAM

    I♥RAM Notebook Deity

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    rot112, at 650/900/1350, what kind of numbers does it see in 3dmark06? It's definitely better than a 9600m's 740/930/1700 right?
     
  20. fiziks

    fiziks Notebook Evangelist

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    Just plugging in clock settings because it worked for someone else is not a good idea. If you are going to OC, start small and go up in small increments (25 r 50MHz at a time). The really smart guys work on just one clock at a time. Don't rely on just one benchmark as your arbiter of stability, use several. What runs through 3DMark06 may crash in Crysis or Furmark. Also keep an eye on the heat generated by the GPU during each stability test. The manufacturer tests them for the rated clock speeds. Beyond that, each GPU is different. OCing requires a lot of time and patience to get the most out of a GPU (or cpu for that matter). If you are lazy and go big the first time you try, you may find yourself needing a new laptop. It's a little easier with a desktop. Frying a $200 cpu or a $250 graphics card just means you are out the component replacement cost. Can you really afford to replace a $1200 laptop? If that answer is "no", then stay with the stock config.
     
  21. flipfire

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    This is what happens when you've fried your video memory.

    Remember temperature programs only display the GPU CORE temps, not vMemory temps
     
  22. I♥RAM

    I♥RAM Notebook Deity

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    What should I do with ATITool to overclock as much as possible, but safely? With NVIDIA System Tools, I blindly overclock until the GPU clock test fails. I ran Find Max Core and the core slider for 3D Perf. stopped at 697 and stopped increasing so I just aborted - is 697 my highest/safe core clock? Should I do the same for mem?

    Why an hour?

    Trying to figure out how to tell what an OC limit is (right now I'm getting the feeling its whatever numbers you start seeing artifacts at), thanks for the help everyone.